me ʻO ka papahana, Ua hana ka luna Sepania ʻo Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia i kahi mea haku mele dystopian me ka nahu nui. ʻImi ʻia ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i ka like ʻole o ka papa a me ka lokahi, hoʻokiʻekiʻe aʻe i ke kamaʻilio ʻana a nīnau i ka poʻe hoʻolohe i ko lākou ʻike i ka pono.

Ua hiki iaʻu ke noho i lalo me Gaztelu-Urrutia e kūkākūkā ʻO ka papahana a me kāna hoʻololi ʻana mai ka pāʻani i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni.

[Kaomi maʻaneʻi e heluhelu kaʻu hōʻike piha o ʻO ka papahana]

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Kelly McNeely: He aha ka genesis o ʻO ka papahana? No hea mai kēia?

ʻO Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia:  ʻO kahi moʻolelo i kākau mua ʻia no kahi pāʻani - kahi pāʻani keaka - ʻo ia, i ka hopena, ʻaʻole i puka i waho. ʻO David Desola ka manaʻo, a ua kākau ʻo ia i ka palapala me Pedro Rivero. He mau hoaaloha lōʻihi māua ʻo Pedro, a ʻo Carlos Juarez - ka mea hana - ua loaʻa ka palapala. 

No laila ke heluhelu mākou i ka palapala, ua maopopo iā mākou aia kekahi mana nui nui. Ua ʻike nō mākou he pono nui ka hoʻololi e huli ia mai kahi script no kahi pāʻani i kahi script no kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, akā aia kahi kumu maikaʻi e hana pū ai. Nā poʻomanaʻo poʻomanaʻo a me ka symbology o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - nā metaphors - hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike i ka heluhelu ʻana i ka palapala, no laila ʻike mākou he maikaʻi loa ke ʻano. 

Kelly McNeely: Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i nā metaphors a me ka hōʻailona o ʻO ka papahana?

ʻO Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia: Inā ʻoe e nānā i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻike ʻoe he nui nā pae; aia ka poʻe waiwai ma nā pae kiʻekiʻe, a ʻo ka poʻe ʻilihune ma nā pae o lalo. Pili ia i kēlā mau papa kaiapili like ʻole, ʻākau a hema. Aia kekahi pae o ka symbology pū kekahi, inā ʻoe e nānā hou i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e ʻike hou ʻoe e pili ana iā ia. 

ʻAʻole pili ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i ka hoʻololi ʻana i ka honua, akā pili ia i ka hoʻomaopopo ʻana a me ke kau ʻana i ka mea nānā i kekahi o nā pae, a ke ʻike nei i ke ʻano o kā lākou ʻano ma muli o ka pae hea lākou. Kūlike like ka poʻe ma waena o kekahi. He mea nui ia i kou wahi i hānau ai - kahi ʻāina a ʻohana - akā like mākou a pau. Aia ia i kahi e hele ai, akā e noʻonoʻo a hana ʻoe i kahi ʻano ʻokoʻa. No laila ke waiho nei ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i ka mea nānā i ke kūlana e kū i nā palena o kāna kūpaʻa ponoʻī. 

Maʻalahi ke loaʻa ke kūkaʻa inā ʻoe ma ka pae 6; inā he nui kāu hiki iā ʻoe ke hāʻawi i kahi hapa o ia mea. Akā e loaʻa iā ʻoe ke kūpaʻa inā ʻaʻole lawa ʻoe iā ʻoe iho? ʻO ia ka nīnau. 

Kelly McNeely: Nui nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni fenomenal e puka mai Sepania. Weliweli a pīhoihoi, mahalo ʻia kēlā ʻano i Sepania? A i ʻole ʻaʻole nui paha e like me lākou ma ʻAmelika?

ʻO Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia: ʻAʻole nui nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i hana ʻia ma Sepania, akā ʻo nā mea liʻiliʻi e hana ʻia e hiki ke huakaʻi maikaʻi ma waena o nā ʻāina āpau āpau. Nui nā mea pīhoihoi, akā nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻano - nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli - kakaikahi loa. 

Kelly McNeely: Aia kekahi mau kumuhana ākea āpau a me nā dissection o nā pae papa, aia kekahi kumu āu e makemake maoli ai e kamaʻilio i kēlā hakakā papa?

ʻO Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia: ʻAʻole makemake ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e aʻo i kekahi mea. ʻO ka papahana makemake e hoʻokau i ka mea nānā ma kahi e noʻonoʻo ai pehea lākou e hana ai i kekahi mau hanana, e pili ana i nā mea e hana nei ma waho o ka honua i kēia manawa. He aha kāu e hana ai i kēlā me kēia kūlana? No laila inā ʻoe ma lalo o ka paepae a i ʻole ma luna o ka hale he aha kāu e hana ai? ʻAʻole lākou e hoʻokolokolo, akā hāʻawi lākou i ka nīnau a hāʻawi i ka mea nānā i ka manawa kūpono e hoʻoholo. 

Kelly McNeely: He aha ʻoe a he aha ka mea i hoʻoulu ʻia ai a hoʻohuli ʻia e ka wā e hana ana ʻO ka papahana? 

ʻO Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia: Ua hoʻololi kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni iaʻu a ua loli hoʻi i ka poʻe a pau i pena kiʻi i ka hana ʻana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - nā mea hana keaka, a pēlā aku - ua hoʻololi ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni iā ​​lākou. Ua paʻakikī loa ke kī ʻana a ua waiho mālie lākou iā lākou iho - hahao maoli iā lākou iho i loko o ka lua. No laila aia nā ʻāpana āpau o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - ka hana ʻana, ke kī ʻana ʻana - a ʻoiai ʻoe i loko o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻike maoli ʻoe i ka leka maoli a ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. A hoʻololi ʻoe iā ʻoe iho. 

ʻO kaʻu mau mea hoʻoikaika kiʻi noʻeau ʻO Delicatessen, Kahi Holo Kahi, Cube, ae nō hoʻi, Papahele aʻe; nui nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Makemake au i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Aloha au i ka kinima mai koʻu wā ʻōpio loa. Nui nā mea liʻiliʻi mai ka nui o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻaʻole paha wau i ʻike no hea lākou. A me nā ukana moʻomeheu. 

Kelly McNeely: He mea hoihoi ia mai kahi palapala kiʻi keaka. Hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomaopopo i ke ʻano o ia; ʻo nā hana mua ʻelua e like me he mea pāʻani lā, a aia ke ʻano o ke kolu o ka hana ma laila pū kekahi. ʻO kēlā ʻekolu hana i ʻāpana o ka pāʻani ma ke ʻano, a he aha nā pilikia o ke kiʻi ʻana i kēlā me kēia ʻāpana?

ʻO Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia: Maikaʻi loa ʻoe, no ka mea, ʻo ka hana mua ʻelua ma ke pāʻani akā ua pau ka pāʻani ma ka hana ʻelua. No laila ua hoʻopau maoli i ka pāʻani ke hoʻoholo ʻo ia e iho i lalo. Ma mua o kēlā, kū ma laila ka pāʻani kumu. No laila ua hoʻohui mākou i kēlā. 

He nui nā mana o kā ka pāʻālua pāʻani, akā ʻaʻole hiki iā mākou ke hoʻohana i ka palapala like no ka mea no ka pāʻani keaka. Makemake wau e hana hou aku i ke kino, no ka mea, nui ke kamaʻilio i nā hana mua ʻelua. No laila ua hana nui wau me nā mea paʻi kiʻi ʻelua e hana i ka hana ʻekolu. 

Ua nui aku nā huapalapala i ka palapala kumu aʻu i hemo ai e hāʻawi i ka manawa hou i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe, e hoʻolilo iā ia i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻoi loa. 

Kelly McNeely: Manaʻo wau ua pāʻani maikaʻi ia, manaʻo wau he ala maikaʻi loa ia e hoʻonui ai i ka haunaele a lawe i kahi pae ʻē aʻe, akā e hoʻopili maikaʻi iā ia. 

ʻO Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia: Mahalo. ʻOi aku ka kamaʻilio a me ke ʻano o ka moʻomeheu, akā ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o ka hana ke kinima ke hoʻoholo nā mea a hoʻoholo a hana i ka hana. 

Kelly McNeely: Maopopo iaʻu ʻo kēia ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni mua ma ke ʻano he alakaʻi, he aha nā ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo āu e hāʻawi ai i nā mea hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

ʻO Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia: ʻO ka mea maʻamau; pono lākou e paʻakikī e hiki i kā lākou pahu hopu. Inā ʻaʻole ʻoe e hana e kau i ka nui o ka hana e hana ia, ʻaʻole ʻoe e kūleʻa. ʻOiai ʻoe e hana nui a hana ʻole ʻoe, ua hoʻāʻo ʻoe. 

Kelly McNeely: A no kaʻu nīnau hope loa, inā ʻoe e hele i ka paepae, he aha kāu e lawe ai? He aha kāu mea i koho ʻia?

ʻO Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia: ʻO ka samurai plus!

 

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