ʻAʻole paha ʻoe i ʻike i kona inoa, akā ʻike maoli ʻoe i kona alo. ʻO Julian Richings kahi kumu o ke ʻano ʻoniʻoni a me ke kīwī, me nā kuleana i loko ʻOhana, Cube, ʻO ka wahine kilokilo, Legend Legend, Man of Steel, ʻAmelika ʻAmelika, Channel Zero, Hannibal, Huli Huli, a me nā mea hou aku. ʻO ka mea hana Pelekane (e noho nei a hana i kēia manawa ma Kanada) he ʻano ikaika o ke ʻano kino āna i lawe mai ai i kēlā me kēia kūlana, e hoʻopiha piha ana i kēlā me kēia ʻāpana a hāʻawi iā lākou i kā lākou ʻano gravitas. He mea hana keaka ʻo ia e kū i kēlā me kēia hiʻohiʻona, ʻaʻohe mea o ka nui o ka ʻāpana. 

Ua noho iho nei au me Richings e kamaʻilio pū me ia e pili ana i kāna hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻana ma ke ʻano he mea hana keaka, a me kāna mau hana i ka hit-exorcism hit ʻO nā mea āpau na Jackson a me ka hōʻikeʻike pōkā punk pōhaku hookoe wahi.

Kelly McNeely: He hana nui ʻoe ma ka ʻoniʻoni ʻano a me ke kīwī ma aneʻi ma Kanada. Pehea ʻoe i hoʻomaka ai? A huki ʻia paha ʻoe i ka hana ʻana i ke ʻano?

ʻO Julian Richings: Pehea wau i hoʻomaka ai ... Kuhi wau he mea hana wau i nā manawa a pau. He kaikaina waena au, a ʻelua mau kaikunāne oʻu - hoʻokahi ʻaoʻao a ʻelua iaʻu - a ua manaʻo wau he kamaliʻi, ʻo wau ka mea makemake ... ʻokoʻa wau me kēlā me kēia kaikunāne, ʻokoʻa wau me kanaka āpau 

He kaikuaʻana kekahi oʻu kahi akamai i ka hana ʻana i nā wahi, ua lilo ʻo ia i mea hoʻolālā keaka, a hoʻohana i ke kūkulu ʻana i nā wahi i loko o kā mākou pā hale. A pono ʻo ia i kekahi e hoʻopuni i kēlā mau wahi, e like me kahi luna kani no kāna sirkus, a me kahi ʻuhane no kāna mau hale spook a me nā mea, no laila ... koho ʻo wai ka mea nāna i hana i kēlā. A no laila ua hana mau wau, ʻoluʻolu wau i ka hana ʻana. 

A i kekahi mau ʻano, hiki i ka hana ʻana iaʻu ke lilo i ʻano keu o nā huapalapala koʻikoʻi aʻu e ʻike ʻole ai i ke ola maoli. E like, ʻike mau wau i koʻu ʻano maʻamau a palupalu hoʻi. Maopopo iā ʻoe, hele ka poʻe, E kuʻu Akua, pāʻani ʻoe i kēlā kanaka! ʻO ka make mai hoʻokalakupua! A makemake wau e ʻōlelo, ʻae, ʻae ʻia wau e lilo i kēlā, akā ʻaʻole ʻoe makemake e ʻike iaʻu ma waho o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. No laila, e, a aia ʻelua mau ʻāpana i kāu nīnau! Ke ʻano

Kelly McNeely: Hoʻokomo ʻia ʻoe i kahi ʻano?

ʻO Julian Richings: ʻĀ, manaʻo wau he meaola. Manaʻo wau, ʻike ʻoe, hoʻomohala wale ʻia ia i loko o nā makahiki, ke ʻano o nā ʻāpana aʻu i pāʻani ai. ʻAʻole nui i ka hale keaka, ua ulu wau i ka hale keaka, ua hoʻomaʻamaʻa wau i ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ua hana wau i ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a laila ua hele lohi wau i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me ke kīwī. A i kaʻu hana ʻana i ka hale keaka, ua hoʻomaka wau e hana i nā pāʻoihana e hoʻopiha i kaʻu loaʻa kālā. A ʻo nā mea kālepa āpau e lilo i offbeat, geeky, ʻano ʻano ʻē. No ka mea, ʻike ʻoe, ke hana ana ʻoe i kahi ʻoihana, ʻaʻole wau ka makuakāne maʻamau, a i ʻole, maopopo iā ʻoe, ke kāne maikaʻi ke nānā aku me nā niho piha. ʻO wau nō ke kāne ʻē, ka eccentric. A ʻaʻole hiki ke pale ʻia i kēlā me kēia i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me ke kīwī, no ka mea he medium literal ia. No laila, ʻo ke ʻano o nā kuleana aʻu i pāʻani ai, ʻo ia ka outliers a me nā malihini a me nā ʻano weliweli. No laila he ʻano ʻokanika ia. 

I ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ua loaʻa iaʻu he nui o ka laulā ākea, akā apo wau i nā mea āpau. A hoʻāʻo mau wau e hoʻokomo i nā mea like ʻole i nā huapalapala āpau aʻu e pāʻani ai, no laila ʻaʻole wau e kipaku iā lākou ma ke ʻano he, a, he hana weliweli kēlā. E like inā he mea weliweli ia, e hoʻāʻo wau e hoʻolauna i kahi ʻano kanaka a i ʻole inā e pāʻani ana wau i ka Emepera ʻino, e hoʻāʻo wau a hoʻokomo i kahi palupalu, ʻike ʻoe i ka manaʻo? No laila, noʻu, like ia, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu, he mea hiki ʻole wale nō, kuhi au.

Kelly McNeely: A i kēia manawa e kamaʻilio nei no nā mea kolohe, hana pāʻani ʻoe i nā kolohe hookoe wahi a i hala iho nei i Leʻaleʻa Vicious, a me kekahi ʻano paʻakikī e pili ana i ka pono i ʻO nā mea āpau na Jackson… He aha ke ʻano o nā kuleana e pīhoihoi ai iā ʻoe ma ke ʻano he mea hana keaka?

ʻO Julian Richings: ʻAʻole nui nā kuleana aʻu e hele ʻole ai, oooh, hoihoi ia. ʻAʻohe oʻu ʻano o ka nui. ʻAʻohe oʻu manaʻo a prejudice paha, e ʻōlelo ana, ʻaʻole maikaʻi kēlā noʻu. ʻ,, ʻuʻuku kēlā, a ʻo ia paha ka cliche. Makemake au i nā moʻolelo. Makemake au i ka haʻi moʻolelo. A makemake wau i ʻāpana o kahi moʻolelo. A i kekahi manawa koi kēlā i kahi mea liʻiliʻi a ikaika. A i kekahi manawa he mea pālahalaha ia ma ka piʻo ʻoi aku ka nui. 

No laila paʻakikī wau e hoʻokaʻawale. Me he mea lā, ʻike ʻoe, aia kekahi mau masks kahiko e hōʻike ana i ka hale keaka. Aia ka pale maka ʻakaʻaka no ka hoʻomākeʻaka, a aia ka pale maka aniani no ka pōʻino. He mea paʻakikī loa wau e hoʻokaʻawale i nā mea ʻelua, manaʻo wau ma hope o kēlā me kēia pōpilikia, aia kahi mea hoʻomākeʻaka a ʻo ia hoʻi. A like ke ʻano o nā kuleana aʻu e pāʻani ai. No laila makemake wau i ka hoʻohuihui ʻana, ʻoluʻolu wau i ka lilo ʻana i ʻāpana liʻiliʻi o ka moʻolelo, a hauʻoli wau i ka lawe ʻana i kahi moʻolelo nui. No laila ʻaʻole wau ʻano hele, ʻae, kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hou, makemake wau i kēia a i ʻole kēlā. 

Kuhi au i koʻu wā ʻelemakule, hauʻoli wau i ka huhū i ka manaʻo o nā poʻe āpau i ka hana a nā mea kahiko. No laila ke hele a makua wau, hauʻoli wau i pāʻani i nā mana ikaika enigmatic, no ka mea i kā mākou moʻomeheu, makemake mākou e hoʻokuʻu i ka ʻelemakule me he mea lā, ʻike ʻoe, ua kākau ʻia ʻoe. No laila, he ʻano mea maikaʻi kēlā e hoʻomaka wau e ʻapo.

Kelly McNeely: ʻAe, ʻike nui ʻoe i loko o ʻO nā mea āpau na Jackson. Aloha wau i kēlā manaʻo ma kahi o, ʻike ʻoe, e heluhelu ana kēia mau keiki mai kēia puke a kāhea aku i nā daimonio, ʻo kēia kēia ʻelemākua, a pono lāua e ʻike maikaʻi, akā hana nō lākou. A aloha nui wau i kēlā. 

Ke noʻonoʻo nei wau inā hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i nā pilikia o ka pono ʻO nā mea āpau na Jackson, no ka mea, he ʻano kau kaapuni ia i ka hana ʻo ke kāʻili. Aia kēia manaʻo holoʻokoʻa e hana nei ia no kāna wahine, ke hana nei ia no kona ʻohana, ʻike ʻo ia ʻaʻole paha ia ka mea kūpono e hana ai. Akā, he hana aloha wale nō ia.

ʻO Julian Richings: ʻOiaʻiʻo, ua ku ʻoe ma ke kiko. Manaʻo wau ʻo ka mea kupaianaha a hopohopo ʻole e pili ana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻo ia he mau kānaka ʻelua i kūpaʻa kekahi i kekahi, akā e kaʻana like i kahi kaumaha kaumaha a me kahi pōʻino weliweli. A i mea e hōʻemi ai i kēlā kaumaha, nānā lākou i ka hiki ʻana i kekahi i kekahi, a ʻo nā hana a lākou e hana ai, ʻaʻole hiki ke kala ʻia, akā hana lākou i ka inoa o ke aloha, a pale aku i ka mea ʻē aʻe. A no laila ma nā ʻano he nui, ua pale lākou i ke kuleana mai o lākou iho. A manaʻo wau he wahi paʻakikī a hoihoi ia no kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e noho ai. 

I kēia manawa, ma ke ʻano he hana keaka, hana ʻo Sheila a me aʻu iho, e like me kā mākou kemika maikaʻi maoli, a hoʻokani wale mākou i ka pono o ka pilina ma waena o ʻelua mau kānaka. A ʻo mākou, koho wau, ua lawe mākou i ia i kā mākou ʻike ponoʻī. Laki pū mākou i ka pili o ka lōʻihi. A no laila ua hoʻāʻo mākou e hoʻopono e pili ana i nā kiure a me nā mea hoʻohiehie o ka pili lōʻihi, ʻike ʻoe, a me kēia ʻano ʻāpana comedic i hiki ke komo pū i loko.

Kelly McNeely: ʻOiaʻiʻo. A aia, heʻoiaʻiʻo, kahi kāʻili ʻana i loko hookoe wahi ʻo ia hoʻi, kahi o kāna ʻano ponoʻī o nā paʻakikī a me kahi kumu lawehala nui aʻe.

ʻO Julian Richings: ʻAe, ke manaʻo nei wau, maopopo leʻa ʻoi aku ka nui o mua o ka hale wili, wili, ʻaʻohe pio o ke ʻano o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. ʻO ka mea aʻu e makemake ai e pili ana, he mea ia e hoʻopili maoli ai i loko o ia ʻano ʻano kolohe. Aia kekahi ʻano o ka ikaika nui, a aia kekahi manaʻo ʻaʻole hauʻoli wale nā ​​wahine e, ʻike ʻoe, nā mea i hoʻonohonoho ʻia. ʻIke ʻoe, ua hakakā lākou i ko lākou ala i waho i ke kūʻokoʻa. A he ʻano ikaika ia iā ia, a he ʻano pōhaku me ka pōhaku a me ka ʻoloka. A leʻaleʻa kēlā. ʻOkoʻa loa. ʻAno, ʻano ʻokoʻa loa o ka ikehu. 

Kelly McNeely: ʻO kahi vibe ʻokoʻa loa ma waena o nā kiʻi ʻelua. I kēia manawa, hauʻoli wau i ka hoʻolohe ʻana iā ʻoe e kamaʻilio nui ana e pili ana i ka hale keaka. Hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻōlelo iki e pili ana i kāu hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻana a me kou kua i ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni a inā hāʻawi paha kēlā iā ia iho i kahi ʻano, a like me nā paʻakikī maoli āu e ʻike ai i kēlā mau hāmeʻe? 

ʻO Julian Richings: ʻAe, hana nō. He mea hana ia i kaʻu ʻoihana. No laila ua ulu a hoʻomaʻamaʻa wau ma ʻEnelani. Akā ua ulu wau i loko o kahi manawa i ka wā o ka ʻōnaehana Pelekane Kahiko, nā hui keaka ʻoihana repertory i kēlā me kēia pule, a me nā hale keaka āpana e pala a ʻaʻole pili hou mākou. A no laila he ʻano nalu hou o nā hale keaka kaiāulu kahi e hana ai nā poʻe ma nā wahi kuʻuna ʻole. Ua hana wau ma nā pāka, ma ka hopena o ka uapo, ma nā kahakai, i nā home o nā ʻelemakule - ʻo ka manaʻo e lawe i ka hale keaka i ka poʻe. 

A no laila aia kahi manaʻo o - i nā makahiki 70, ma ʻEnelani - ʻaʻole pili ka ʻōnaehana kahiko, me ka hiki ʻana mai o ke kīwī a me nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, pono e hoʻololi i ka hale keaka kuʻuna. No laila ma laila wau i komo ai i ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ʻo koʻu mau makahiki mua o ka ʻike ma laila, a hoʻomaʻamaʻa pū wau ma ke ʻano he mea hana keaka, ʻaʻole like me ka nui o nā kula hana keaka Pelekane, i mākaukau loa i ke kula kahiko. 

Ua hoʻomaʻamaʻa nui wau i ka hana a Grotowski. ʻO ia ke kumu Polani o ia manawa, nāna i kamaʻilio e pili ana i ka hana ʻana i ka hale keaka kino o ka ʻeha a me ka loko ʻino kahi a nā mea hana keaka e hoʻomaʻamaʻa ai e like me ka poʻe hula, he ʻano ʻano kino ko lākou. A ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ia ke kumu i hoʻopau ai wau ma Kanada, ʻo ia ka hōʻike aʻu i noho ai ma ke ʻano he hōʻikeʻike ʻōlelo nui, moʻomeheu lehulehu i hele i ʻEulopa, kaapuni ʻana iā ʻEulopa, hele i Polani, hele mai i Kanada, ʻo ia he hōʻike mākaʻikaʻi. No laila ua ʻike wau iā Toronto a - ka moʻolelo lōʻihi - akā ua pau wau ma Toronto. Akā ka manaʻo ʻo koʻu ʻano kino no ka hana mau ma laila mau. A ua hoʻoponopono au ia mai ka hale keaka i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me ke kīwī. 

Akā loaʻa mau koʻu kino i koʻu ʻano. ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ʻaʻole ia no ka noʻonoʻo ʻole, akā aia ma laila, no ka mea, ʻaʻohe mea i loko o kaʻu hoʻomaʻamaʻa. No laila inā me koʻu alo, a i ʻole me koʻu mau maka maka, a i ʻole ia, ʻike ʻoe, ke pāʻani nei wau i kahi mea ola e like me Three Finger i Huli hewa, a i ʻole Make i hoʻokalakupua. ʻO ka mea nui iaʻu ka laulā o ke kino. A ʻaʻole wau e manaʻo, ʻike ʻoe, e like me ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e nui a ikaika a paʻakikī hoʻi. ʻAʻole pēlā. ʻAʻole, aia kahi ʻano o kahi hohonu e puka mai ana mai ke kino. 

Kelly McNeely: He mea hou aʻe ia o ka finesse kino.

ʻO Julian Richings: ʻAe. A ʻo nā mea e like me ka hale keaka kuʻuna, ʻaʻole ia he ʻanoʻano aʻu e maʻa maoli ai, ʻike ʻoe, i ka ʻōlelo Pelekane kuʻuna i haʻi ʻia nā huaʻōlelo. ʻAʻole ia he mea āu e ʻike ai, kahi e kū ai nā mea a loaʻa ka tī a kūkā a kūkākūkā i nā manaʻo. ʻAʻole mākaukau loa wau i kēlā ʻano keaka. No laila ka weliweli, a me ke ʻano nui o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni operatic, like hookoe wahi, kūpono maoli iaʻu. 

Kelly McNeely: No laila he ʻano nīnau ākea paha kēia. Akā he aha iā ʻoe ka hauʻoli nui a / a i ʻole ka hōʻaʻo o ka hana ʻana?

ʻO Julian Richings: Auwe. He ʻāpana ia naʻu, ʻike ʻoe? ʻO ia mau nō. Kuhi au ʻelua, ʻo ia ka nāwaliwali. No ka mea pono ʻoe e noho mau i ka manawa, ʻeā? He mea hoihoi ia i ka haʻi ʻana o ka moʻolelo, pili ʻoe i ka hana ʻaʻole hiki ke lilo i ʻāpana o kou lolo e hele ana, ʻe, hauʻoli maoli wau i ka waiho ʻana i kaʻu mea. A i ʻole, ua kāohi wau, a ʻo wai hoʻi wau? Henehene, ʻaʻole hiki i kēlā leo i kou poʻo ke noho ma laila, pono ʻoe i loko o laila. No laila e like me kēlā, pono ʻoe i kahi kūlana o ka nawaliwali, manaʻo wau, a me ka loaʻa i kēia manawa. 

A paʻakikī maoli kēlā. He paʻakikī loa ia e maʻalahi a hāmama a kūlohelohe hoʻi. A no laila, ka ʻimi no kēlā, koi i ka ʻoʻoleʻa. A koi ʻia i kahi ola o ke ʻano hōʻoluʻolu ʻole, ʻoiaʻiʻo. I kēia manawa, ʻaʻole wau e huhū i kēlā. Manaʻo wau ʻo ia ke ala e ola ai i koʻu ola. E ola wau i koʻu ola ma koʻu wāwae mua. Ke neʻe mau nei wau, hoʻohenehene wau i ka poʻe no ka mea ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke noho mālie, ʻano hoʻolohe mau wau, pane. 

Akā ʻo koʻu hauʻoli nui ʻelua ia wau e ʻike nui i kahi ʻāpana o ke kahe o ke ola. Akā he mea nui pū kekahi, no ka mea ʻaʻohe maluhia. Ma ke ʻano he mea hana keaka, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke noho i hope i kaʻu mau hoʻomaikaʻi. ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu. ʻOiai i ka wā o COVID ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke noho i lalo a kākau i kaʻu puke moʻolelo nui a kākau paha i kaʻu mau noʻonoʻo ʻana, a i ʻole nui loa wau i koʻu wāwae mua e hoʻolohe ana i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe a hōʻike i nā mea a lākou e hāʻawi mai ai iaʻu. Lana koʻu manaʻo e pane ia. ʻAno iki paha ke kani o ke kani, akā he ʻano manaʻo ia. Kuhi au he mokuʻāina ia noʻu e manaʻo nei ʻoe e hoʻāʻo a mālama.

 

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