ʻO nā mea hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni nui a Aaron Moorhead lāua ʻo Justin Benson i loaʻa kahi moʻolelo hoʻomanaʻo maikaʻi ʻole. ʻO kā lākou kiʻi ʻelua ʻelua, hooholo a Hao, hoʻokumu i ka duo hihiu hihiu e like me nā hōkū e piʻi aʻe o ka cinema genre. ʻO kā lākou kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hou loa, Ka Hopena, hoʻomaka mua ʻia ma ka Tribeca Film Festival ma 2017 a ua ukali ʻia e nā puʻu o ka mahalo a me ka pono kūpono.

Ka Hopena - kākau ʻia e Benson - alakaʻi ʻia, hoʻoponopono ʻia, a hana ʻia e Moorhead lāua ʻo Benson, nā mea pū i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni (me ka cinematography na Moorhead).

Hāpai ke kiʻi ʻelua mau kaikunāne e hakakā nei e alakaʻi i ke ola maʻamau he ʻumi mau makahiki ma hope o ka pakele ʻana mai kahi hoʻomana UFO make. Ke loaʻa iā lākou kahi memo wikiō cryptic mai ka hoʻomana, he kumu ia o ke kanalua, no laila hoʻoholo lākou e hoʻi iki me ka lana o ka manaʻo e loaʻa kahi pani. ʻOiai ʻo Camp Arcadia a me kāna mau lālā e hōʻike nei i ka moʻomeheu Renaissance o kona inoa - kahi wahi "uncorrupted e ka lāhui" - kahi mea e hoʻohaunaele i lalo o ka papa mālie.

Ua loaʻa iaʻu kahi manawa e kamaʻilio ai me Moorhead lāua ʻo Benson e pili ana Ka Hopena, kona mau pilina i hooholo, a he aha ka mea aʻe no ka duo kālena nui.

Kelly McNeely: ʻO wau mua ʻo ia peahi of hooholo, Hao, a Ka Hopena, ka mea i loaʻa mua iaʻu ma ka Toronto After Dark Film Festival. No laila, ʻoluʻolu, ʻike wau i kēia manawa ma # 1 ma ka papa inoa Rotten Tomatoes o Nā kiʻi ʻino weliweli o ka makahiki a hiki i kēia manawa. Hoʻonui ʻia ʻO ke kuleana a ʻO kahi wahi hauʻoli, ka mea nui loa! Ka Hopena ua alakaʻi ʻia e, i kākau ʻia e, hoʻoponopono ʻia e, hana ʻia e, a me nā hōkū o ʻoukou, ua hoʻokau maoli ʻoukou i kā ʻoukou āpau i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Pehea kou manaʻo ke ʻike i kahi pane maikaʻi i kēlā?

Aaron Moorhead: Oooh! ʻO ka nīnau paʻakikī, ʻoiaʻiʻo, lawe ʻoe iā ia i ka wā e komo ai. Ke hele mākou e hana i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ua mākaukau mākou no ka mea he ʻano anomaly liʻiliʻi paha ia, e like paha me ka blip ma ka radar o nā poʻe, e like me "oh , hey, maikaʻi hana lākou i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, maikaʻi, ʻaʻole nalo lākou ”. ʻO ia kahi ʻano o nā mea āpau a mākou i lana ai. A inā paha e luʻu ka poʻe i kāna ʻano ʻē ... ʻo ka hoʻohaʻahaʻa maoli ka ʻōlelo.

Justin Benson: ʻO ia.

AM: ʻAʻole maopopo iā mākou ka nui o ka makemake o ka poʻe e like me kēia.

KM: Loaʻa kēia kahi mākaʻikaʻi maikaʻi loa o kēia mau kumuhana hohonu o ka hilinaʻi, ka hōʻoia ʻana, a me ka pani ʻana, akā ʻano papa ʻia lākou i loko o kēia mea lapuwale, psycho-cosmic, aloha meaʻai aloha Lovecraft. Ma ke ʻano he mea hana keaka / alakaʻi / hoʻoponopono / a pēlā aku, he aha ke ʻano o ke kaulike ʻana i nā mea āpau - nui nā mea e hana nei i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni.

JB: ʻĀ, manaʻo wau maopopo wau e kani ana kēia ... ʻo kēia kahi mea aʻu e kamaʻilio nei; 'ōlelo mau kēlā me kēia mea paʻi kiʻi "ʻano mua", akā maoli ma loko o ke kaʻina holoʻokoʻa o ka hoʻomohala ʻana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, kākau ʻana, pana ʻana iā ia, ʻokiʻoki ʻana ... ke hoʻomau mākou i ka pilina interpersonal ma waena o nā kaikunāne ʻelua, a ʻoiai ke anaina. hiki ke nānā i ka hakakā a me ka hoʻonā ʻana o kā lākou hakakā, a me ka loli i ko lākou pilina, a laila manaʻo mākou e like, ʻike ʻoe, e maikaʻi mākou.

ʻOiai, ma ke ala, e hoʻāʻo mau nei mākou e hāʻawi i ka mea hoʻolohe i ka pīhoihoi o ka pīhoihoi, ka pīhoihoi o ka makaʻu, akā aia kā mākou ala ʻano ʻē o ka hana ʻana. ʻAʻole ia e hoʻohana maʻa mau i ka lele makaʻu a me ka hana ʻino, he mea ʻoi aku ka paʻakikī o kēia, no laila ke ʻike mau nei mākou i ka manawa holoʻokoʻa. Akā nō naʻe, no ka manaʻo o kekahi e pili ana i ka ʻāpana ʻano, inā e holo pono ka mea e pili ana i ka naʻau, ʻaʻole paʻakikī e mālama i nā mea āpau.

KM: Ka Hopena ʻano like me ka ʻaoʻao B i hooholo - aia he tona o nā hua i kanu ʻia i loko hooholo loaʻa kahi uku nui i Ka Hopena. Aia paha kahi hoʻolālā e hoʻi i kēlā a i ʻole lawe i kēlā mau mea?

AM: ʻAʻohe manawa o kahi hoʻolālā ke hana mākou hooholo, ka hapanui no ka mea ua manaʻo mākou e hana ʻole mākou ma hope hooholo no laila e noʻonoʻo e hana i kahi ao nui. Akā hoʻomau mākou i ka noʻonoʻo e pili ana i kēlā moʻolelo a kamaʻilio e pili ana i ia mea, ʻaneʻane, e like me nā mea pā o ka moʻolelo a me nā kaʻao a me nā ʻano, a laila ʻike mākou ʻaʻole wau i hana maoli ʻia ka moʻolelo no ka mea aia ke ao i waho. o mākou. No laila ua hoʻāʻo mākou e loaʻa kahi ala i loko, a ua ʻike mākou, maoli, i kekahi mau ʻano i loko, akā Ka Hopena ʻo ia ka mea i hoʻomaka i ka hoʻonāukiuki maoli no mākou a no ... ʻae, ʻae, ka hapanui na mākou. ʻO ia ka mea e maopopo ai ka manaʻo.

ʻAʻohe kumu maoli e hoʻi i ka honua o kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni micro-budget ʻaʻole i ʻike ʻia e kekahi, maopopo iā ʻoe? ʻAʻohe mea i ʻike hooholo, a maikaʻi loa kēlā. ʻOiaʻiʻo, e ʻike ka poʻe āpau ʻaʻole ʻoe e ʻike hooholo e hoʻomaopopo a mahalo paha Ka Hopena i nā mea āpau. Akā hele lākou i ka ʻāpana i kekahi mau kiko - a i ʻole nā ​​helu he nui - a hoʻonui ia i ka ʻike, akā ʻaʻole ʻoe e ʻike e nalo ana ʻoe i kekahi mea ʻē aʻe.

KM: No laila pehea i hoʻomaka ai kēia huakaʻi? He aha ka mea i lawe iā ʻoe i ka moʻolelo a me nā kumuhana a me nā manaʻo o Ka Hopena?

JB: Nui a hewahewa nā ala e pane ai i kēia nīnau me kā mākou mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, paʻakikī paʻakikī e hoʻomanaʻo pololei. Makemake mau mākou i nā papahana he ʻumi e hele nei i ka manawa hoʻokahi a ʻaʻole hiki ke hoʻomanaʻo i ke kumu a me kahi i hoʻomaka ai lākou. Akā aia kekahi mau mea me Ka Hopena mea kūpono ke haʻi ʻia, e pili ana i kāna genesis. ʻO kekahi, he nui kā mākou mau papahana ʻē aʻe i ka hoʻomohala ʻana i kēia manawa - i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me ke kīwī - a ʻo lākou nā mea nui āpau e lōʻihi lōʻihi ana.

No laila ma kahi o hoʻokahi makahiki a me ka hapalua, ʻelua mau makahiki i hala aku nei, ua ʻike wale mākou, e like me, "aw man", ua lilo mākou i ʻano mea lawe a me nā leka uila, a ua hooki mākou i ka hana ʻana i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni no laila pono mākou e hana kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni mai ka papa honua i hiki iā mākou ke hilinaʻi hou iā mākou iho a hiki ke hana i nā mea āpau.

No laila ʻo ia kahi ʻāpana o ka hapai ʻana o Ka Hopena, a laila ʻo ka mea ʻē aʻe i ʻike mākou i loko o kēia mau papahana nui ʻē aʻe, e ʻimi nei i kēia kumuhana o ke kūlike a me ka anti-conformity. ʻIke maopopo loa mākou i kēlā kumuhana, no laila he aha kahi ala maikaʻi e haʻi ai i kahi moʻolelo e pili ana i kēlā kumuhana - kūlike a me anti-conformity, a i ka manawa kūpono e kipi ai.

Ua maopopo iā mākou e kamaʻilio pū ana mākou hooholo no ka mea e like me 6 mau makahiki a he aha ka mea i hana ʻia i kēia mau ʻohana hoʻomana ʻelua, a manaʻo mākou he ala maikaʻi loa kēlā mau lālā hoʻomana e ʻimi ai i kēlā kumuhana.

KM: Aloha au i kēlā manaʻo pili i ka pili a me ka anti-kūlike ʻole. Ka Hopena loaʻa kēlā hakakā o ka noho ʻana i ke ola o nihilistic normalcy versus ka makemake e lilo i ʻāpana o kahi nui - inā ʻaʻole pilikia - holoʻokoʻa. A manaʻo wau he mea hiki iā mākou āpau ke pili.

AM: ʻO ia ke ʻano o nā mea āu e makemake ai ma ke ʻano he mea paʻi kiʻi ... manaʻo wau ʻo ia ka mea e kamaʻilio ai ka poʻe ke ʻōlelo lākou, no ka laʻana, manawa ʻole nā ​​kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a Spielberg. Kūleʻa lākou i kekahi manawa a he huahana lākou o ko lākou au, akā ʻo ke kumu ʻaʻole lākou e kamaʻilio e pili ana, e like me, “nā pilikia o ka pāpili kaiaulu”. Ke kamaʻilio nei lākou e pili ana i nā kumuhana i hiki i kēlā me kēia kanaka o ka honua ke pili. A inā hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻimi i kahi ala e hana i kēlā mau kumuhana kikoʻī a loaʻa maoli i kahi mea e ʻōlelo ai e pili ana i kēlā mau kumuhana, a laila hiki iā ʻoe ke hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e lana paha ka manaʻo i hiki ke hoʻokani 20 mau makahiki i hala a i ʻole 20 mau makahiki mai kēia manawa a ʻaʻole ʻōlelo nā poʻe. oh maikaʻi paha ia i kēlā manawa ”.

KM: Me Ka Hopena, ʻo kēia ka manawa mua no ka hoʻokani nui ʻana o ʻolua i alo o nā kāmera. He aha ke kaʻina e hiki ai i kēlā manawa, a manaʻo ʻoe makemake ʻoe e hana hou?

AM: ʻO ke kaʻina hana no ke kiʻi ʻana i mua o ke kāmela kahi ʻāpana maoli o ka manaʻo o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Ua makemake mākou e hana i kahi mea hilinaʻi iā ʻoe iho. A ʻaʻole mākou i pau i ka hana ʻana i kahi mea hilinaʻi loa, ua pau mākou i ka hana pū me - ʻike ʻoe, akahai ia, akā ʻo ia a ʻO ka moʻohelu kālā ʻaʻole ia ʻo kā mākou waihona waihona iho. Loaʻa iā mākou kahi luina i kākoʻo nui. Akā ʻo kahi ʻāpana o ka hana ʻana i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e hana wale ana mākou i nā mea āpau, a ʻo ka hoʻolei ʻana iā mākou iho kahi ʻāpana o kēlā.

A ʻoiai he makemake mākou e hana, a manaʻo mākou ʻo mākou hiki hana, manaʻo mākou ua pololei mākou e hana, no laila he confluence o kahi pūpū o nā kumu like ʻole ma waho o ka "maikaʻi ʻaʻohe kālā no laila pono mākou e hana". Akā e hana hou paha mākou? ʻOiaʻiʻo nō. ʻAʻole wale no mākou iho, akā no nā mea hana kiʻi ʻē aʻe pū kekahi.

KM: Ma ke ʻano he poʻe paʻi kiʻi, he aha ka mea nui loa - a he nīnau ākea loa kēia - akā he aha ka haʻawina nui a koʻikoʻi āu i aʻo ai i kēia manawa i nā mea āpau āu i hana ai, ma mua a ma hope hoʻi o nā kāmera.

JB: ʻAʻole e mālama i kekahi kūlana i hoʻonohonoho ʻia ma mua o nā kūlana ʻē aʻe. ʻAʻole au i manaʻo ʻo ʻAʻarona a ua hana paha wau i kēlā, akā i kēlā me kēia manawa aʻu i loaʻa ai - maoli maoli i koʻu ola holoʻokoʻa o ka hana ʻana i nā seti - ʻaʻole wau i nānā i hope a noʻonoʻo "ʻo ia ʻano ʻano maikaʻi ʻole ia. ”No ka mea he mea hana keaka, a i ʻole kekahi ma ka keʻena kāmela, a i ʻole kekahi mea, hana kekahi me he mea lā no ka mea he mea nui ko lākou kūlana a no laila ʻoluʻolu ʻole lākou.

AM: A ʻo ia kēlā i kēlā me kēia lā!

JB: ʻAe, ʻae loa.

AM: Makemake wau i mea hana keaka, no ka laʻana - a hiki iā mākou ke ʻōlelo i kēia no ka mea alakaʻi mākou i kā mākou kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - ke kumu wale nō ʻaʻole lākou e ʻā e like me, e like me ka hoʻomau ʻana o ka paʻa. ʻAʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke kī i kāu mea hana keaka a hoʻololi iā lākou me haʻi.

KM: * ʻakaʻaka * Paʻakiki iki nō, ʻe.

AM: ʻAʻole pono wau e ʻōlelo ua hoʻololi loa lākou - ʻaʻole lākou, akā ʻo ka manaʻo e puni ana kēlā me kēia kūlana i kekahi ʻano pupule.

JB: Ma mua o kēlā, inā he mea paʻi kiʻi ʻoe, e hoʻomākaukau mau i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hiki iā ʻoe ke hana iā ʻoe iho a ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e kali no kekahi e haʻi iā ʻoe hiki iā ʻoe ke hana. No ka mea inā ʻaʻohe ou mea, holo wale ʻoe i ka makaʻu o ka hana hou ʻole ʻana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni.

KM: Ua ʻōlelo ʻē aʻe ma mua e loaʻa mau ana i kahi o kou mau manaʻo a me nā papahana i ka hele, no laila he aha nā mea hou aʻe no ʻolua? He aha nā papahana āu e hana nei - inā hiki iā ʻoe ke kaʻana like?

AM: ʻAe! ʻAʻole mākou makemake e kikoʻī no ka mea inā ʻaʻole lōʻihi kēia ninaninau, no ka mea ua hauʻoli mākou a hoʻomaka mākou e kamaʻilio - pili mākou ... 4 kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me 3 hōʻike kīwī e kuʻi nei mākou i ka honua. A ʻo ke kumu, ke hoʻopau ʻoe i hoʻokahi mea hele i ka honua no nā mea hana keaka a me ke kālā a me nā mea āpau, hoʻomaka wale ʻoe e hana i kahi mea ʻē aʻe. A i ʻole, hiki iā ʻoe ke noho a kali, ʻo ia ka mea i pilikia ai mākou Ka Hopena i mua.

No laila loaʻa iā mākou kahi hui holoʻokoʻa o nā mea. ʻAʻohe o lākou i kikoʻī i ka Hoʻoholo / The Endless ke ao holoʻokoʻa, akā ʻo lākou nō kā mākou ʻano mea like ʻole. ʻAʻole mākou e hana i kahi rom-com me nā ʻīlio, akā ʻo ia ka mea aʻe, ma hope o kēlā, no ka mea ʻoiaʻiʻo nō - ʻoiai i kēia manawa ke ʻano hoihoi wau e pili ana i kēlā ... ʻoluʻolu loa ia. Ua noʻonoʻo wau e pili ana i nā ʻīlio e aloha ana. Akā yeah, ʻo lākou a pau ko mākou ʻano mea.

Hoʻokahi mea a mākou i huli wale nei i kahi kikoʻī o ka studio ʻo ia ka pīhoihoi maoli ke hana nei mākou i kahi hōʻike kīwī e pili ana iā Aleister Crowley.

KM: Kupaianaha!

AM: No laila he mea kupaianaha loa ia i ka hana ʻana.

KM: Ke manaʻo nei wau, ua holo pono ʻole nā ​​mea ʻē aʻe, loaʻa iā ʻoe ka ʻīlio rom-com, no ka mea manaʻo wau ʻo ia ka hana hoʻolei maikaʻi loa.

AM: ʻAe! Kūpono mākou e hana nei mākou, no ka hana hoʻolei wale nō.

KM: No laila no kaʻu nīnau hope loa, makemake wau e kiʻi iki i kahi pilikino. Makemake wau e ʻike i ka mea e makaʻu ai a pīhoihoi ai iā ʻoe - no ka mea i kekahi manawa ʻelua mau ʻaoʻao o ka moni like, ʻeā?

JB: Hmmm… yeah .. E ke kāne, makemake wau makaʻu wau i nā mea hou aʻe ...

AM: Auē, auwē, ʻaʻole makaʻu ʻo ia i kekahi mea ...

JB: Makemake au, makaʻu maoli, makaʻu kūpono. Makemake, ʻaʻole au makemake i ka wā e hoʻokele loa ana kahi kaʻa ma hope o ke kanaka i mua o lākou, ʻaʻole wau makemake e make i ka puʻuwai puʻuwai no laila ʻai wau i ke olakino, a makaʻu wale wau i ka hoʻomehana honua.

KM: Kūpono loa nā mea āpau!

JB: E kau wau i kēlā - makaʻu ka hoʻomehana honua ma mua o ka nani o nā mea āpau. O ia ke kumu Hoʻoponopono mua ʻo ia ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hoʻoweliweli o ka makahiki. Mai hoʻokuʻu i ka Tomato popopo e haʻi aku iā ʻoe i kēlā Ka Hopena ka mea.

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Hiki iāʻoe ke loaʻa Ka Hopena ma Digital, Blu-ray & DVD i ka lā 26 o Iune, 2018. E nānā i ka trailer a me nā kiʻi paʻi kiʻi kupaianaha ma lalo!