ʻO ka loaʻa ʻana o kahi moʻolelo weliweli maikaʻi he mea maʻamau ia, a ʻo ka loaʻa ʻana o kekahi me kahi hiʻohiʻona hiʻohiʻona ʻeleʻele? ʻAe, he lua gula kēlā. Inā ʻoe e ʻimi nei i kēlā mau waiwai, ʻo Jason Pargin Make ʻo John ma ka hopena hele mai i manaʻo nui ʻia. 

Hoʻololi ʻia i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni o ka inoa like i ka makahiki 2012 – alakaʻi ʻia e ke ʻano nui ʻo Don Coscarelli (Phantasm, Bubba Ho-Tep) - Make ʻo John ma ka hopena ua ulu ʻole i loko o ke ʻano o nā moʻolelo. ʻO ka helu ʻehā i hoʻokuʻu wale ʻia (i kapa ʻia Inā loaʻa kēia puke, aia ʻoe i ke ao holoʻokoʻa) hoʻokumu i kahi kūlana kiʻekiʻe, hopena o ka honua holoʻokoʻa o ke ʻano hiʻohiʻona (piha me ka interdimensional lolo-momi parasites a me ka hoʻomana kilokilo ʻōpio) a ʻo ka hopena o nā mea a pau aia i loko o nā lima hiki ʻole o kahi lole hoʻokalakupua. -ʻo ka hui pūʻulu, ka poʻe i ʻoi aku ma mua o kā lākou uku uku.

Pargin – nāna i kākau mua ma lalo o ka inoa peni ʻo David Wong (ke kanaka nui a me ka moʻolelo o Make ʻo John ma ka hopena) - noho pū me Kelly mai ka Murmurs mai ka podcast Morgue e kūkākūkā i kāna mau puke, kona piʻi ʻana ma BookTok, a no ke aha e hoʻohui nui ai nā ʻaoʻao holoholona ʻole i kahi hui. 

E heluhelu no kahi māhele o kā mākou kamaʻilio ʻana. Hiki iā ʻoe e hoʻolohe i ka hālāwai ninaninau piha ma ka Nā ʻōhumu mai ka Morgue Podcast (loaʻa ma nā wahi āu e ʻike ai i kāu podcasts) a kaomi maanei e huli ai Inā loaʻa kēia puke, aia ʻoe i ke ao holoʻokoʻa.  

Kelly McNeely: He ʻano hoʻohenehene horror cosmic kou ʻano, no hea mai nā hoʻoikaika a i ʻole nā ​​manaʻo, no ka mea Make ʻo John ma ka hopena a me ka moʻo Zoey Ashe? 

ʻO Jason Pargin: He poʻe makaʻu nui wau e ulu ana, ʻo kekahi hapa wale nō no ka mea ʻo ia ka mea a nā mea a pau e heluhelu nei. He keiki au no nā makahiki 80 a ʻo Stephen King - he paʻakikī ke hoʻohālikelike inā ʻaʻole ʻoe e ola ana i kēlā manawa, he mea kupanaha ʻo Stephen King. Like, lohe nā kānaka a pau iā Stephen King, akā ʻaʻole ʻoe maopopo, ua like ia me JK Rowling a me Harry potera i na manawa he nui. Ua loaʻa i nā kānaka a pau he ʻeke pepa Stephen King ma ke kula. No laila, manaʻo wau ua komo wau i ka heluhelu weliweli, no ka mea ʻo ia ka mea ʻoluʻolu. Akā, ua maopopo iaʻu, no kēlā me kēia kumu, ua paʻa iaʻu. ʻAʻole no kekahi kumu hiki iaʻu ke haʻi aku. Hiki paha i ka psychologist ke wehewehe, akā makemake wale au. 

No laila, nā moʻolelo i lilo i moʻolelo, Make ʻo John ma ka hopena, ʻo ia kekahi o nā ʻāpana moʻolelo mua loa aʻu i kākau ai. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, hana wau i nā mea ma ke kula, kākau wau i nā moʻolelo pōkole no nā papa kākau haku, kēlā ʻano mea. Akā, i ka hiki ʻana mai o ka manawa e kākau wale ai i kekahi mea, eia hou, ma ka punaewele aʻu e hāʻawi manuahi nei, e hana wale ana no ka leʻaleʻa, a e ʻakaʻaka ai koʻu mau hoaaloha. Me he mea lā ua maikaʻi loa kekahi ʻano hoʻohenehene weliweli. 

Aloha au i ka hoʻohālikelike ʻana ma waena o nā mea ʻino loa e hiki mai ana, ʻike ʻia e nā maka o kahi mea i ʻike maoli ʻia a ʻike ʻole ʻia i ka honua. E like me kā lākou wehewehe ʻana i nā mea e hana nei ʻaʻole kūpono ia e ʻakaʻaka iaʻu. A no laila ʻo kēlā ʻeha ka mea mua i loaʻa iaʻu ka ikaika e makemake ai e hoʻi hou. No ka mea, ʻo kāu anaina mua, inā ʻoe e kākau ana i kahi ʻano lōʻihi e like me kēia, ʻo ʻoe nō. Inā ʻaʻole ʻoe e hauʻoli iā ia, ʻaʻole ʻoe e hoʻopau iā ia. No laila ma ke ʻano like, no ke aha kēia o kāu moʻolelo mua, ʻo ia ke ʻano mua a i ʻole ke ʻano i hauʻoli nui iaʻu e makemake e hoʻi hou i laila no nā huaʻōlelo 150,000. A ke ʻōlelo nei i kekahi mea. 

Manaʻo wau ʻo ka hapa nui o ka poʻe e hoʻāʻo nei e kākau i kahi puke a i ʻole kekahi ʻano lōʻihi, kahi e hoʻopau ai lākou i ke ʻano o ka petering, no ia kumu, no ka mea ʻaʻole lākou makemake e hoʻi i laila. ʻO ia ka pilikia. No ka mea kākau ʻōpio e hoʻāʻo nei e hana i kahi mea a lākou i ʻike ai e kūʻai aku ana, a i ʻole e ʻike i ka mea wela, ua like wau, ʻaʻohe mea nui inā ʻaʻole ia e hoʻonāukiuki iā ʻoe e hoʻopau. No laila e pili ana i ka mea i hoʻoikaika iaʻu e hana, i kēlā manawa ʻO nā faila X nui. Hiki iā ʻoe ke nānā i kēlā mau mea aʻu e nānā nei i ka hopena o 90s. Akā ʻo kaʻoiaʻiʻo, manaʻo wau ua loaʻa iaʻu ka mea i ʻike nui ʻia koʻu ʻano.

Kelly McNeely: Ka hoʻololi kiʻiʻoniʻoni o Make ʻo John ma ka hopena ua loaʻa iā ia kahi moʻomeheu ma hope o ke alakaʻi ʻia e John Coscarelli. He kiʻiʻoniʻoni leʻaleʻa. No laila me ka puke, e loaʻa pū ana kēia mea kupanaha, pehea ke ʻano o kēlā holomua a me ka hoʻomohala ʻana, e hoʻomaka ana - e like me kāu e ʻōlelo nei - kēia moʻolelo āu i kākau ai ma ka pūnaewele no kou mau hoaaloha a no ʻoe iho, a pehea ia i hoʻomohala ʻia ai i kēia. i loko o kēia mea nui, kēia ʻāpana nui, nā mea hana hou he nui nona ponoʻī?

ʻO Jason Pargin: ʻO ia ka mea inā wau i noho i lalo a hoʻolālā e hana ʻia, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole hiki. He ʻano mea aʻu i hina ai. A ua hele mai au e aʻo i ka nui o nā papahana nui o ka poʻe, ʻo ia ke ʻano o ia hana. ʻo kahi laʻana, Star Wars ua hiki wale mai no ka hoao ana o George Lucas e hana i Flash Gordon kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a ʻaʻole hiki iā ia ke loaʻa nā kuleana no ka mea ke hana nei kekahi keena ʻē aʻe e hana i nā mea e lilo ai lākou Flash Gordon kiʻiʻoniʻoni, no laila pono ʻo ia e noho i lalo a kākau hou i kāna Flash Gordon script a hoʻololi wale i kekahi mau huaʻōlelo a puni, a puka mai Star Wars. Me he mea lā, ʻaʻole ʻo ia kāna makemake, ʻo kona makemake Flash Gordon a ʻo kēia mau makahiki 1950 a me kēlā ʻano ʻano moʻolelo. A hāʻule ʻo ia i kahi hanana i ʻoi aku ka nui ma mua Flash Gordon. 

ʻAe, i koʻu hihia, ʻo ka mua Make ʻo John ma ka hopena, e like me ka mea i ʻike ʻia e ka poʻe pā – ʻaʻole ʻike ka hapa nui o ka poʻe i ʻike i nā puke i kēia – akā ua loaʻa iaʻu kēia blog, Hoʻopau manawa ʻole. A i ka 2000s mua, aia kekahi ʻano o ka ʻatikala ma kēlā blog kahi mea e hoʻomaka ai ke kani ʻana i ke kani maʻamau a pololei, a e hoʻonui i ka naʻaupō o ka paukū ma ka paukū a hiki i ka hopena, i ka hopena, e ʻike ʻoe iaʻu. Ua hoopau i kou manawa. ʻO ia ka inoa o ka pūnaewele. No laila, loaʻa iaʻu nā nīnauele hoʻopunipuni ma laila me nā poʻe kaulana, ʻo ka mea mua, kani lākou i ka mea maʻamau, a laila lilo kā lākou pane i mea malihini a malihini. A ua like ka ʻakaʻaka, ʻae, pehea ka lōʻihi e hiki ai iā ʻoe ke hele i kēia ma mua o kou ʻike? A laila ʻike ka poʻe i makemake i ka pūnaewele, ʻike lākou i ke ʻano, a ʻo ia kahi ʻāpana o ka leʻaleʻa, me ka ʻike he huikau kēia i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe. 

No laila, ʻo kēlā Halloween, ua hana au i ka moʻomanaʻo moʻomanaʻo, he moʻolelo kupua wale nō ia i haʻi ʻia ma ke kanaka mua, me he mea lā he mea maoli kēia i hiki mai iaʻu a me koʻu hoa. A hoʻomaka hou e like me ka pololei, pololei loa. ʻIke ʻoe, hōʻike wau i ka hale o koʻu hoaaloha, ʻōlelo ʻo ia ua ʻōlelo kēia kaikamahine ua haunted kona hale, a makemake ʻo ia e noho mākou ma laila i ka pō e ʻike inā hiki iā mākou ke nānā i kahi mea e hana nei. A he moʻolelo kupua pololei loa ia. A laila hoʻomau ka hele ʻana i ka malihini a me ka malihini. A laila, i loko o kekahi mau ʻaoʻao, ke alualu ʻia nei lākou a puni ka hale e kēia puʻu ʻiʻo i hoʻopaʻa ʻia i loaʻa mai ka pahu hau hau o kēia wahine. No laila, ʻo ia wale nō kēia prank, e like me nā mea āpau ma ka pūnaewele. Akā makemake nui ka poʻe i kēlā Halloween a koi lākou i kekahi o ia mau mea. 

Ua lilo kēia i mea makahiki, a ua kūkulu kēlā me kēia mea ma luna o ka hope me ka hoʻohenehene i kapa ʻia Make ʻo John ma ka hopena, e like me kaʻu e haʻi aku nei iā ʻoe i kahi e hele ai kēia. A i kekahi manawa, ua hōʻea au i ka hopena kūlohelohe o ka moʻolelo, e like me 150,000 mau huaʻōlelo, a ʻo ia ka manawa he mea maʻamau ka paʻi ʻana i kahi mea lōʻihi hou ma ka pūnaewele. ʻAʻohe mea hoʻohiwahiwa i kēlā manawa e like me ia i kēia manawa, aia nā wahi he nui a me kēia mau kahua ʻokoʻa āpau i maikaʻi no ka poʻe kākau ʻōpio, a ua nui nā mea kākau moʻolelo i puka mai i waho o ia kiʻi. I koʻu hoʻomaka ʻana i kēia i ka makahiki 1999 a i ʻole, ʻaʻole ia he mea. No laila, ʻaʻohe mea i ʻōlelo mai iaʻu ʻaʻole e hana i kēia. No laila ua loaʻa iaʻu kēia puke e hoʻopuka manuahi ʻia ana ma kaʻu pūnaewele. A makemake ka poʻe iā ia ma ke ʻano pepa, no ka mea, he ala weliweli ia e hoʻāʻo ai e heluhelu i kahi moʻolelo, me ka nānā ʻana i ka radiation CRT kahiko e pana ana i kou mau maka i ka manawa āpau. No laila ua hana au i kahi paʻi paʻi paʻi ʻia aʻu i kūʻai aku ai ma ke kumukūʻai no ka poʻe makemake wale ia no ka mea hou, ʻaʻole ia he ʻoihana waiwai i kēia manawa. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole pono ka pūnaewele no ka loaʻa kālā ʻana no kekahi, koe wale nō nā piliona piliona ma luna. 

Ua kāhea ʻia kahi paʻi indie liʻiliʻi Paʻi Permuted hele mai, a olelo mai lakou, hiki ia makou ke kii aku oe i ka pepa pepa maikai o keia, a hiki ke kuai maoli aku ma Amazon. A ua pūlima au i kuʻikahi me lākou no ka loaʻa mua ʻana o kekahi mau haneli kālā, akā ʻaʻole ia he mea nui, ʻo ia wale nō ke ala, he puke paʻi ʻia me ka helu ISBN hiki iā ʻoe ke hele i kahi hale kūʻai puke a noi aku. he kope o. A iaʻu, ua manaʻo ʻo ia ka piko o kaʻu ʻoihana kākau ʻo ia ka manawa aʻu i kākau ai i kahi mea i loko o kekahi mau hale kūʻai puke a mākou i kūʻai aku ai i mau kaukani kope. He mea maikaʻi loa ia no ka puke mua, ʻo ia hoʻi ka mea i paʻi ʻia e ka mea hoʻopuka maoli, akā ma ka ʻōlelo waha wale nō kēia, ʻo ia ka nui o ka poʻe i hoʻāʻo e heluhelu ma ka pūnaewele a loaʻa iā lākou ka ʻeha poʻo. Ua like lākou, e uku maoli au i 20 mau kālā no ka heluhelu ʻana i kēia ma ka pepa, ke hōʻino nei kēia i koʻu ʻike. E hoʻopakele iaʻu i ka loaʻa ʻana o ka hana LASIK ma hope e hiki ai ke heluhelu ma ka pepa. 

No laila ʻo kekahi o kēlā mau kaukani mau kope e lele i ka lima o Don Coscarelli - ka mea aʻu i manaʻo ai ua ʻike nā poʻe iHorror i kona inoa - akā inā ʻaʻole, ua hana ʻo ia i ka moʻo. Pūnaewele hana ʻo ia i ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni Bubba Ho-Tep kahi e hoʻokani ai ʻo Bruce Campbell iā Elvis, a i ʻole he kanaka manaʻo ʻo ia ʻo Elvis. A hoʻokaʻaʻike mai ʻo ia iaʻu ma waho o ka polū e makemake ana ʻaʻole e kiʻi wale i nā kuleana kiʻiʻoniʻoni i kēia, akā no ka hana maoli ʻana, he ʻokoʻa nui. Nui nā poʻe i kūʻai aku i nā kuleana kiʻiʻoniʻoni i nā mea no $10k a i ʻole nā ​​mea a lākou e hāʻawi ʻia ai, a ʻo ia ka mea hope āu i lohe ai. ʻO ka mea maʻamau wale lākou e lele i kahi mauna waiwai ma kekahi wahi. Akā makemake ʻo ia e hana. Manaʻo wau ua manaʻo nā kānaka a pau e hana ana ʻo ia Bubba Ho-Tep sequel, a aia paha ia i ka hoʻomohala ʻana. Akā no kēlā me kēia kumu, manaʻo wau ua hoʻopaʻa ʻia kēlā papahana. No laila ʻo ia, makemake wau e hana i kēia, ʻo wai kou ʻelele? 

Akā, me he mea lā, ʻaʻohe oʻu luna. ʻAʻohe aʻu mea hoʻopuka. ʻAʻohe aʻu mea hoʻoponopono. ʻAʻohe aʻu mea. Hana wau ma kahi hui ʻinikua e hana ana i ka hoʻokomo ʻikepili. Eia hou, ʻaʻohe aʻu hana e hana ana i kekahi hana kākau ʻē aʻe. ʻAʻole au i uku ʻia no ke kākau ʻana. He kanaka au e hana ana i loko o ka cubicle e paʻi ana i nā helu i loko o nā pahu ma ka pale i ka lā a pau. ʻo ia wale nō. No laila, pono wau e hoʻolimalima i loio e nānā i ka pepa. Me he mea lā, ua ʻike paha ʻoe i kekahi o kēia mau mea ma mua? Makemake kēia kanaka e kūʻai i nā kuleana kiʻiʻoniʻoni, hiki iā ʻoe ke hōʻoia ʻaʻole wau e haʻalele i koʻu ola ma aneʻi? A laila hana mākou i kēlā. A laila hoʻomau wau i koʻu ola. 

Ua loaʻa iaʻu kahi ʻoihana blogging kūleʻa ma ke ʻano ua lilo wau i mea kaulana ma ke ʻano he blogger, akā ʻaʻole e loaʻa kālā mai ia mea, ʻo ia ke ala e hana hou ai ka pūnaewele. Hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa ka lehulehu akā ʻo ia nō. A ʻaʻole au i lohe i kekahi mea no kekahi mau makahiki. A laila, e like me ʻelua makahiki ma hope a i ʻole, hoʻi mai ʻo ia a ʻōlelo mai, hey, aia iā Paul Giamatti ma luna o ka mea hana, ua hana mākou i ka hoʻolei ʻana i nā ʻāpana hope loa, e hoʻomaka ana mākou e pana i kēia koke. A ʻo ia i ka makahiki 2012, manaʻo wau he ʻelima mau makahiki ma hope o kona kūʻai ʻana i nā kuleana, manaʻo wau. Ua kūʻai ʻo 2007 i nā kuleana, 2012 ua wehe ʻia ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni ma Sundance. Ua lele au ma laila, e hana hoʻolaha me ka mea hoʻokani a me kēlā poʻe a pau, lawe lākou i nā kiʻi, hele mākou a puni, hana mākou i ka hōʻike mua ma kekahi o nā hōʻikeʻike aumoe ma laila. 

He mea hoʻopuka nui, ʻo St. Martin's Press - he kiʻi ia o Macmillan, kekahi o nā mea hoʻopuka nunui ʻekolu i koe - hele mai lākou a kūʻai i nā kuleana e hoʻokuʻu iā ia ma ka uhi paʻa. Ua hoʻopaʻa inoa lākou iaʻu i kahi kuʻikahi puke hou e hana i kahi sequel, ua lilo ia Piha kēia Buke i nā Punawelewele, i hana i ka The New York Times bestseller list, a ua hana i kaʻu ʻoihana kākau. 

Akā, e like me ka nui o kaʻu hana, e kākau manuahi i kēia puke no ka hapalua makahiki ma mua o ka loaʻa ʻana o kekahi mea me ia, ua loaʻa iaʻu kēia ʻoihana ma muli o kēia hoʻomaha. No ka mea, ua holo kēia kanaka i hoʻokahi kope o kēia puke pohihihi loa - mai kona manaʻo. 'A'ole 'ike wale 'ia a makemake 'ia, akā makemake 'o ia e hana i ki'i'oni'oni e pili ana i ia mea, hana ki'i'oni'oni e pili ana i ia mea, a hana maika'i i ke ki'i'oni'oni e ho'okani mau ana. Ua hele mua i ka DVD a laila hoʻokani ʻia ma ke kelepona, a i kēia manawa ma ke kahe. Aia ia - Manaʻo wau - Hulu i kēia manawa, akā ua pāʻani ma Netflix no kekahi mau makahiki. Aia ma Amazon Prime. A pāʻani wale nō a pāʻani a pāʻani. A ʻo kēlā me kēia mau haneli kanaka e nānā ana, holo lākou a kūʻai i kope o ka puke. A ua lilo ia i kaʻu ʻoihana kākau i nā manawa he nui. ʻO ia wale nō ka ʻokoʻa ma waena oʻu a me nā mea kākau nui ʻē aʻe e hoʻoikaika nei i ka pōʻeleʻele no nā makahiki he nui. ʻO ka mea wale nō i loaʻa iaʻu kēlā hoʻomaha hoʻokahi.

Kelly McNeely: A loaʻa iā ʻoe ka moʻolelo Zoey Ashe (Hoʻomāinoino Futuristic a me nā lole nani, a Kuʻi ʻo Zoey i ka wā e hiki mai ana i ka Dick). Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi e pili ana i ka hoʻomohala ʻana o kēlā moʻo a pehea i ulu ai kēlā ʻano? 

ʻO Jason Pargin: Ua kau inoa lākou iaʻu i kahi ʻaelike puke lehulehu, a ʻo ia ka manawa mua aʻu i ʻōlelo ai, ʻAe, ʻaʻole wau makemake e kākau i kēia moʻolelo hoʻokahi no ke koena o koʻu ola, ʻaʻohe mea makemake i kēlā. A ua loaʻa iaʻu kēia manaʻo ʻē aʻe o kahi moʻolelo moʻokalaleo ʻepekema kahi e hiki mai ana, a ma muli o ka ʻenehana, hiki i kekahi mau ʻano o nā mana superhuman. Akā, hoʻokahi wale nō ohua o ka poʻe i kahi o ko lākou mana nui he poʻokela wale nō. He poʻe wahaheʻe maikaʻi wale lākou a me nā manipulator a me nā mea kūʻai aku. He ʻano like ia, manaʻo wau, ʻo Don Draper mai hehena Men. E pili ana i ke ʻano o nā mana hiki ke loaʻa iā ʻoe - mai ka mālamalama a hiki i ka ʻike ʻole a hiki i ka ikaika nui a hiki i nā mea a pau - ʻaʻohe mea e ʻoi aku ka hiki ke hoʻopunipuni i nā kānaka a hoʻopunipuni i nā kānaka. 

No laila, aia kēia pūʻulu o ka poʻe a ua like lākou i ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa psyops, a ʻano holo lākou i kēia hui lawehala nunui. A laila, noʻonoʻo wau, he aha ka mea ʻoluʻolu loa e mālama i kēlā hui? A ua hōʻeha ʻia ʻo ia kēia kaikamahine 22 makahiki mai kahi paka trailer, nona kēia pōpoki pilau loa āna i makemake ai, a ʻo ia - ma o nā hanana convoluted - ua hoʻoili maoli ʻo ia i kēia aupuni lawehala. No laila, loaʻa iā ʻoe kēia kūlanakauhale sprawling o ka wā e hiki mai ana, me kēia mau mea a pau e pili ana i ka poʻe kiaʻi a me nā mea hewa a kokoke i nā monsters semi-kanaka, a me kēia pūʻali o nā mea hoʻokele kiʻekiʻe kiʻekiʻe a me nā kāne con. A alakaʻi wale ʻia lākou a pau e Zoey Ashe, kēia kaikamahine ʻōpio mai kahi pā hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni i hoʻoili i kēia mau mea āpau a hoʻoholo e noho. 

No laila ʻo ia ka iʻa ʻakaʻaka loa o ka moʻolelo wai hiki iaʻu ke noʻonoʻo. A laila ʻike ʻo ia, e like me kāu e manaʻo ai - inā ʻoe i ʻike i nā moʻolelo e like me kēia - ua kūpono ʻo ia i kēia ma mua o kona manaʻo. Manaʻo wau i nā hihia he nui o nā wahine e hoʻohuli nei i loko o ke ao holoʻokoʻa o ke kāne, hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻohaʻahaʻa ʻia e ka manaʻo ʻaʻole ʻike kekahi o lākou iā ʻoe pēlā, akā naʻe, ʻano makani kou kūlana i kēlā me kēia minuke o kēlā me kēia. lā hoʻokahi. A pēlā ʻo ia e hana ai. Ua like ia me ka manaʻo pupule loa o kēia hiʻohiʻona ola maoli kahi e hele mai ai kekahi mai waho a ma mua, hoʻowahāwahā loa lākou, ʻike ʻoe, pehea ʻo ia i hiki ai i laila, a pehea i loaʻa ai ia kūlana, a i ʻole e hōʻike iā ia, a ʻano pono e loaʻa iā ia ko lākou mahalo. No laila, ua like loa ia me ka leo Make ʻo John ma ka hopena nā puke, akā ke hele mai nei i ka honua mai kahi ʻano ʻokoʻa loa. A ʻokoʻa nā mea e pili ana i kēia mau moʻolelo mai nā moʻolelo ʻo John lāua ʻo Dave.