ʻOʻIvan Kavanagh's Kanal ʻo ia kekahi o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli maikaʻi loa o 2014. Inā ʻoe e nīnau iaʻu, ʻo ia ka mea makaʻu loa. Hiki iā ʻoe ke heluhelu i kaʻu loiloi pōkole maanei, akā hilinaʻi wale mai iaʻu ma kēia. ʻAʻole ia kahi āu e makemake ai e pahee.

Hōʻike ia i ka moʻolelo o kahi archivist kiʻi ʻoniʻoni nona ka wahine i pepehi ʻia e waiho ana iā ia ma ke ʻano he mea manaʻo nui i kāna pepehi kanaka ʻana a ke mālama nei hoʻi i kā lākou keiki kāne liʻiliʻi. I kēia manawa, ua ʻike ʻo ia ma o nā kiʻi kīkī kahiko i hana ʻia kahi pepehi kanaka hou aʻe i loko o kona home ponoʻī i 1902. He moʻolelo ʻuhane hou kēlā i loko o ka ʻino a me ka weliweli.

Ua loaʻa iaʻu ka manawa kūpono e koho i ka lolo o Kavanagh e pili ana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me nā mea ʻē aʻe āna e hana ai, no laila me ka ʻole o ka makemake hou…

iHorror: Ua heluhelu au makemake ʻoe i nā kiʻi 1902 i Kanal e like me kā Louis Lumière Hanai ʻana i ka pēpē. He aha ke koʻikoʻi o kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni? 

ʻIvana Kavanagh: ʻAʻohe o kēia kiʻi i Kanal, akā he hoʻokahi wale nō ia, naʻu, i hōʻike pololei i ke ʻano kikoʻī o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni mai ka wā, ʻo ia ka mea a mākou e ʻimi nei e hana hou i kaʻu kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. ʻO nā kikoʻī o ke kāʻei (i kēia hihia nā lāʻau e puhi nei i ka makani) nā mea e kū hoʻokahi ai lākou. ʻO ia ka maikaʻi o ka neʻe a me ke ʻano o ka palaoa aʻu i manaʻo ai, a ua ʻike wau ua kūleʻa mākou i ka wā a mākou i hana hou ai i kēia ʻano maikaʻi.

iH: ʻO ke kiʻi paʻi lima paʻi lima lima i ke kiʻi like āu i hoʻohana ai e paʻi i kēlā kiʻi?

IK: ʻAe, ka mea like. He kamepiula kamahaʻo ia mai 1915 e holo pono ana a, ʻoiai, ʻo ia kekahi o nā kumu e hiki ai iā mākou ke hana hou i ke ʻano o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni mai ke kinima mua.

iH: Pehea ka maʻalahi a paʻakikī paha e kuhikuhi i kahi keiki ʻōpio me ka ʻike ʻole i ka hana.

IK: ʻĀ, ke hoʻolei pololei ʻoe i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, a laila ʻaʻole paʻakikī kēlā. Ua ikaika loa ke kaʻina hana audition a pili nui i nā kāhea i hope a me nā hana hana e like me nā improvisations paʻakikī a me nā heluhelu laina. ʻO Calum, ka mea i hoʻokani i ke keikikāne, he loea kūikawā a ma mua o kāna mau makahiki a hiki i ka ʻike a me ka hana intuition.

iH: He mau keiki ponoʻī kāu? Inā pēlā, ua ʻike ʻoe i kēlā ʻano o ke kumuhana o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e paʻakikī ke holo? 

IK: ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole wale nō. Akā maopopo iaʻu pili iki ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni me ka makaʻu aʻu e manaʻo ai he pono nā mākua āpau a ʻaʻole wau e manaʻo he ʻokoʻa wau.

iH: Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe i loko o ka wā i hala me Kanal, makemake ʻoe e hoʻopiha i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni me kāu mau makaʻu ponoʻī. Hiki iā ʻoe ke wehewehe i kēlā mau makaʻu i ke ʻano o ka pili o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

IK: ʻO nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli maikaʻi loa e hana pū me nā mea maʻamau, i kekahi manawa primal, makaʻu, e like me ka makaʻu i ka pouli, o ka hana ʻino, o ka hōʻeha ʻana i kahi mea aloha, ke ʻike nei ʻaʻole ʻoe i ʻike i ke kanaka āu e kokoke loa ai o ka ʻike hiki iā mākou āpau ke hana i ka maikaʻi a me ka hewa nui. ʻO ke ala aʻu e noʻonoʻo mau ai, inā wau e hoʻopiha i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni me kekahi o kaʻu mau makaʻu ponoʻī, e like me kekahi o nā mea aʻu i ʻōlelo ai, e makaʻu paha i kekahi poʻe ʻē aʻe pū kekahi.

iH: Ua kāhea ʻoe i ka ʻano weliweli "hoʻokuʻu maikaʻi ʻia a mālama ʻole ʻia". Ma hope o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli a pau e hoʻokuʻu ʻia i nā makahiki, no ke aha i kou manaʻo ʻo ia nō? 

IK: Makemake au i ka kinima ma ke ʻano nui a makemake au i nā ʻano kiʻi ʻoniʻoni āpau. Ma mua Kanal Ua hana wau i ʻelua mau kiʻi kiʻi kiʻi i hope i hope, a no lailaʻaʻole wau e hoʻokaʻawale i waena o nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni, aia wale nā ​​kiʻiʻoniʻoni aʻu makemake a makemakeʻole a iʻole pono wau e hana. Manaʻo wau he nui nā mea hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni nui i mālama pono ʻole ʻia (makana naʻauao) no ka mea hana lākou i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma waena o ka ʻano. ʻO Hitchcock lāua ʻo Kubrick ke kumu nui o kēia. Manaʻo wau no ka mea ʻike ka poʻe i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻoi aku ka pono, no ka mea pili lākou (ma ka liʻiliʻi ma luna) i nā kumuhana “koʻikoʻi” ma mua o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hale a i ʻole nā ​​hana keaka a ʻoi aku ka nui o ke kālepa. Eia nō naʻe ʻo ka kiʻi kiʻi kiʻi kiʻi cinematic ma waena o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻoi loa ʻo ia ka mea e hōʻeuʻeu mau ai iaʻu a e ala hou ana i koʻu aloha i ka kinima. Hana ʻo Ingmar Bergman i kēlā mea iaʻu, akā ʻo ka nui o koʻu mau makahiki, ʻo ka nui o koʻu aloha iā Hitchcock, Kubrick, DePalma, Polanski a me nā mea hana ʻoniʻoni ʻano ʻē aʻe i ulu.

iH: ʻIke wau he peʻahi ʻoe o ka ʻano a ua ʻōlelo ʻoe i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e like me ʻO ka hoʻomālamalama ʻana, pēpē a Rosemary, a ʻO ka pepehi kanakaʻo Texas Chainsaw e like me ka hopena iā ʻoe. Hiki iā ʻoe ke noʻonoʻo i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hoʻoweliweli kikoʻī mai nā makahiki i hala iho nei i waiho i kahi hiʻona koʻikoʻi?

IK: Aia kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i kāhea ʻia Palupalu No ka ʻeli ʻana, alakaʻi ʻia e JT Petty, i loaʻa iaʻu ma ke kīwī o ke aumoe i kekahi mau makahiki i hala aku nei i hoʻopilikia maoli ʻole iaʻu. Ua hauʻoli nui wau iā Sam Raimi's Kauō iaʻu i Hell, aʻu i manaʻo ai he leʻaleʻa nui a he hopena maikaʻi loa.

iH: Ua hoʻomaka ʻoe i ke kākau ʻana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hoʻoweliweli psychological. Kekahi mea hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi mai iā mākou e pili ana i kēlā? 

IK: Makemake wau e hūnā no kēia manawa. ʻO kaʻu e ʻōlelo ai he ʻokoʻa loa ia Kanal a hana me kahi ʻano weliweli ʻē aʻe. Manaʻo wau he mea weliweli loa ia a pīhoihoi wau no ia.

iH: Ke hana pū nei ʻoe i kahi mea haʻalulu weliweli me kahi mea kākau ʻē aʻe? ʻO nā kikoʻī hiki iā ʻoe ke kaʻana ma laila? 

IK: ʻAʻole, e kala mai! Pono ia e hūnā no kēia manawa no ka mea aia i nā wā mua loa.

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Ua ʻōlelo ʻia ua pili pū ʻo Kavanagh me kahi kīwī kīwī ʻike ʻole a me ke komohana, akā ʻaʻole hiki ke kamaʻilio e pili ana i kēlā mau mea. ʻO kaʻu wale nō e ʻike ai ma hope Kanal, Ke lana nei koʻu manaʻo i ka ʻike hou ʻana mai iā ia.