ʻO Perry Blackshear's Ke hoʻopau wau iā ʻoe ʻo ia ke kiʻi ʻekolu o kāna kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, e hōʻailona ana i kāna hoʻi kupaianaha i Fantasia Fest. Hahai ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i ke kaikaina a me ke kaikuahine (hoʻokani maikaʻi ʻia e nā hoa aloha maoli ʻo Evan Dumouchel lāua ʻo Libby Ewing) ke hoʻomākaukau nei lāua e hakakā me kahi stalker maka melemele pohihihi.

Ua aloha au i ka Blackshear mai kāna 2015 indie weliweli gem, Nānā lākou e like me ka poʻe, āna i hana ai me kona mau hoaaloha ma hope o ka hoʻopuka ʻana i kahi pilikia nui (e like me kaʻu i aʻo ai ma aneʻi). No laila kūlohelohe wau ua hauʻoli loa wau e kamaʻilio me Blackshear e pili ana Ke hoʻopau wau iā ʻoe, nā poʻomanaʻo o kāna mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, a me nā ʻano pilikino āna e ulana ai iā lākou.

Hiki iā ʻoe kaomi ma aneʻi e heluhelu i kaʻu loiloi piha of Ke hoʻopau wau iā ʻoe. 

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Kelly McNeely: Ke hoʻopau wau iā ʻoe he manaʻo hana maoli. No hea mai kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni? He aha ka mea i hoʻokumu i kēia moʻolelo?

ʻO Perry Blackshear: Manaʻo wau aia kekahi mana o ia mea i loko o koʻu poʻo i nā makahiki he nui. A ke kau mau nei ia ma waena o kēia mau ʻano ʻelua i ʻokoʻa nā ʻano o ke hoʻokokoke ʻana i ke ola, a ʻo kēia mea weliweli mai ko lākou wā i hala e hoʻi mai nei e hōʻeha iā lākou, a ua loli maoli nō e like me ʻoe - he mea ʻē ka ʻōlelo ʻana e ulu aʻe - akā, ulu aʻe . ʻIke ʻoe, i kou mau makahiki 20 i kou mau 30s, ʻike iki ʻoe e pili ana i ke ola. A ʻo kēlā manaʻo he hoʻokahi āu ʻano e like iki me ʻelua mau ʻaoʻao o aʻu, kahi e makemake ai wau e maikaʻi a maikaʻi nā mea, a laila he ʻaoʻao ʻē aʻe wau - he ʻano like ia me ka diabolō a me ka ʻānela - a laila ʻo kahi ʻaoʻao ʻē aʻe, e like me, e kiʻi i ka hana a hana me kēia shit, ʻike ʻoe? Kāohi i ke kaniʻuhū. A no laila like ia me kēia mau ʻaoʻao ʻelua, a laila kēia mea weliweli maoli, a inā hiki iā lākou ke ola. 

A manaʻo wau ʻo nā kumu hoʻoikaika ʻē aʻe i hana ʻia, ʻike ʻoe, e ʻelemakule ana a kamaʻilio pū ana me kāu mau hoaaloha - ʻaʻole wau i ʻike inā ʻo ia ka maʻi ahulau - akā ʻo nā mea a pau i ka therapy i kēia manawa, manaʻo ʻia e like me [ʻakaʻaka]. ʻO ka hapa nui o ka poʻe aʻu i ʻike ai i koʻu ola e hele wāwae nei me ka ʻeha nui a lākou i ʻike ʻole ai ma laila, a he aha ka mea e hana ai me ia, a pehea e ʻoka maoli ai. A ke manaʻo nei wau i kēia mau kamaʻilio hohonu ʻana me nā hoaaloha a me ka ʻohana i loko o kaʻu mau makahiki he 30, ua ʻike wau i ka nui o ka poʻe e hele wāwae nei me ka ʻeha nui, a me ka nui o ka wiwo ʻole e hana ai i kēlā. A manaʻo wau he kumu nui kēlā no ka hana ʻana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni pū kekahi.

Kelly McNeely: Makemake kāu hana e ʻimi i ka ʻike a me ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, a me ka hopohopo a me ka ʻae ʻia, a me kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - ma ke ʻano he - trauma trauma kiʻekiʻe. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i kēlā mau kumuhana a pehea lākou e hana ai i kāu hana?

ʻO Perry Blackshear: ʻAe, ʻano ʻē wau i ka kamaʻilio ʻana e pili ana i ka ulia pōpilikia, no ka mea ʻaʻole wau he loea [ʻakaʻaka], a he mea paʻakikī maoli nō ia, kumuhana pilikino maoli. No laila ke manaʻo nei wau i ko mākou hoʻokokoke ʻana i kēia, ʻo ka nui o nā kumu i hoʻokumu ʻia mai ka ʻohana a me nā hoaaloha a me nā mea aloha, a me nā mea i ʻike ʻia e ka poʻe hoʻokani a me nā luina aʻu i ʻike ai iā mākou iho. No laila ua hoʻāʻo mākou e ʻike i nā mea āpau i hiki iā mākou, a aʻo i nā mea āpau i hiki iā mākou ke pili e ʻike pono ua hana maikaʻi mākou. A huki pū kekahi mai nā ʻike pilikino a me nā ʻano ʻike o ka poʻe a mākou i ʻike ai, a laila kikoʻī maoli i nā mea a me kā lākou mau moʻolelo, no laila ʻaʻole lākou i lilo i ikona a i ʻole kekahi mea, akā ua hoʻokumu ʻia i loko o kēia ʻohana ponoʻī, kēia kaikaina ponoʻī. a kaikuahine. 

A manaʻo nō hoʻi wau, makemake nui wau e nānā i ka hopena o nā mea e like me kēia. Manaʻo wau paha - ʻo wau wale nō - ua ʻike i nā mea weliweli e hana ʻia i nā keiki i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. No laila he mea pilikino kēlā. Akā no ka ʻike ʻana i ka mea e hana ana ma hope o kēlā, maʻamau, a pehea e pau ʻole ai ka hakakā ʻana me ka ʻoki ʻana i ke poʻo o ka monster, yay, hauʻoli mau nā mea āpau. E like me, pehea kēia kaua hoʻomau. A e like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai, ke ʻano o ka wiwo ʻole e hana ai i kēlā. 

A e pili ana i ka hopohopo, ka ʻōlelo āu i ʻōlelo ai i ka hoʻomaka o kāu nīnau, makemake wau e hoʻopaʻa, no ka mea, ua hoʻokau maikaʻi ʻia. Akā, manaʻo wau makemake wau e kau iā mākou i ka manaʻo o nā huapalapala a ʻae iā mākou e ʻike i ke ʻano o kēia ʻano ma o ke kani a ma o ka cinematography. A ua hoʻāʻo nui mākou i ka wā - ke hele nei ʻo Wilson i loko o ka mea ana e hele nei - e lilo ʻo Wilson i loko o kona lolo ponoʻī, a e ʻike i ka honua e like me kāna i ʻike ai. A aia kekahi mau manawa o ka hana ʻino a pūʻiwa i ke kakahiaka nui, a ua hoʻāʻo wau e aniani i ka mea aʻu i ʻike ai i ka wā o kahi kaʻa i hāʻule a i ʻole kekahi mea e like me kēia. 

I koʻu ʻike, ʻaʻole like ka mea e hana nei, a, lohi nō ka neʻe ʻana o nā mea āpau. Manaʻo wau e hiki maoli i kekahi, akā noʻu, lilo i nā mea āpau i mea ʻike maoli. A ke ʻike aku nei ʻoe iā ia, a hiki iā ʻoe ke lohe i nā kani āu e ʻike koke ai, ʻano ʻē. ʻIke nui ʻoe i nā mea āpau. A i ʻole ma ka liʻiliʻi loa i koʻu wā i hāʻule ai kahi kaʻa, ʻo ia ka mea i hana ʻia. A kokoke i kahi ʻano mālie e kū pū kekahi, a ʻaʻole wau ʻike inā he adrenaline a he aha. 

Akā manaʻo wau ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo i nā ʻike kūloko o ke ʻano ma loko he mea a mākou e mālama nui ai e hoʻāʻo. Ke hauʻoli nui nei ʻoe iaʻu, makemake wau e kamaʻilio e pili ana i kēia mea. Leʻaleʻa e hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e pili ana i kahi kaikaina a i ʻole kaikuahine e hakakā ana i ka daimonio, akā kau ʻoe i kēia mea pilikino āpau i laila. A maikaʻi loa ke ʻohi nā kānaka i kēlā mea.

Kelly McNeely: Ke kamaʻilio nei no nā mākua me ka trauma o ka wā kamaliʻi, ʻo ka mea aʻu e makemake ai e pili ana i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻo ia ke ʻano o nā kuhi i nā hanana a ʻimi i kā lākou resonance naʻau me ka ʻole e kamaʻilio pololei i nā hanana iā lākou iho. ʻO kaʻu e manaʻo nei he ala nahenahe maoli nō ia e hana ai i ka moʻolelo, ke ʻano ʻē i ka ʻōlelo wale ʻana, e like, ʻo kēia ka mea i hana ʻia, ʻo kēia ka hopena. ʻAno o nā lau e ʻano kānalua. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i kēlā?

ʻO Perry Blackshear: ʻAe, manaʻo paha wau mai ka pololei wale nō ia ... ʻaʻole maikaʻi ia maikaʻi ʻole. Manaʻo wau i ka wā e nānā ai i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, manaʻo nui ka nui o nā mea liʻiliʻi i ka wā kamaliʻi, keu hoʻi i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, kahi e hakakā ai nā hiʻohiʻona a me nā mea ʻē aʻe. A manaʻo wau ua makemake mākou e hoʻolilo iā ia i hale kikoʻī i loko o kahi ʻohana kikoʻī. A ke manaʻo nei wau ʻo ka mea kokoke loa iā ʻoe ka hanana me ka honu, ke kamaʻilio lākou e pili ana i ka hana a ka makuahine iā Wilson e pepehi i kahi honu me ka hāmare, a me kēia manaʻo o ka loko ʻino psychological o kēlā ʻohana. 

E noʻonoʻo ana wau i kēia ke nānā aku au ʻO ke kanakaʻikeʻole, a aloha wau i ka hoʻomaka ʻana o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma hope o nā mea āpau. A he mea maikaʻi loa, - makemake wau, aloha wau i kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, pū kekahi - akā manaʻo wau ʻo ia, i ka hopena, ke ʻike ʻoe i ke ʻano o kāna kamaʻilio ʻana me ia, a me ke ʻano o ka huikau iā ia, a pehea lā ka mea pōpilikia iā ia iho. A like ʻoe me ... ʻoiai ʻoe me kāna ʻano i ka manawa holoʻokoʻa, ʻike mākou e like me ia. I kēlā manawa, ʻike mākou i ke ʻano o ka mea i lilo iā ia - me ka ʻike ʻole iā ia - akā ʻike wale i kāna mea i loaʻa ai, ma o kāna ʻike ma hope. ʻAʻole wau e kamaʻilio nui me kēlā, akā makemake nui wau i kēlā. Manaʻo wau e lawe iā mākou i loko o kā lākou honua i kahi ala, e hoʻokokoke ana iā lākou i kahi o lākou i kēia manawa, a me ka manaʻo e like me lākou.

Kelly McNeely: A makemake wau iā ʻoe nā ʻano ʻokoʻa ʻelua, ʻo Daphne lāua ʻo Wilson, nā mea e mālama i kēlā ʻeha ma nā ʻano like ʻole. He kiʻekiʻe loa ka hana ʻana o kekahi, a ua ʻano regressed kekahi i kekahi ala, a pehea e kaulike ai, ke manaʻo nei wau he maikaʻi ia. A, e kamaʻilio ana i nā hiʻohiʻona hakakā, pono ʻoe e hana i kahi kaʻa kaʻa hoʻomaʻamaʻa, aʻu e manaʻo ai, e like me ka moemoeā o kēlā me kēia alakaʻi [ʻakaʻaka]. Pēlā nō ia - a ʻo nā hiʻohiʻona hakakā pū kekahi - ʻokoʻa iki hoʻi iā ʻoe.

ʻO Perry Blackshear: ʻAe, manaʻo wau ua makemake mākou e hoʻolōʻihi iā mākou iho. A he mea hoʻomākeʻaka i hiki, ma kahi o ka hoʻomaka, ua like mākou, a, e hana i nā hanana hakakā. Maikaʻi Kēlā. ʻO nā kāne, hoʻomaʻamaʻa wau me kahi koa MMA - ʻaʻole wau i hoʻomaʻamaʻa, hoʻomaʻamaʻa lākou - ua hui wau me kahi koa MMA ʻaʻole i hana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, akā makemake e komo i loko. A i ka nānā ʻana i hope, hauʻoli wau i ke ola ʻana i kēlā, no ka mea e hoʻomaʻamaʻa ana mākou kekahi i kekahi. A ʻaʻohe ona manaʻo pehea e huki ai i kāna mau kuʻi, a i ʻole, a i ʻole ʻike ʻoe, ʻaʻole e ʻoki iaʻu a i ʻole nā ​​mea ʻakaʻaka. No laila, ikaika loa ia. 

Akā ua makemake mākou e lilo ia i kiʻi ʻoniʻoni leʻaleʻa, a e loaʻa i kēlā manawa kahi e hakakā nei a manaʻo ʻoe e hiki iā ʻoe ke hauʻoli i ka mea e hana nei. Akā ka hana hoʻomāinoino i kekahi mea e like ʻO ke keʻenaʻo Green ua nānā mākou, ka mea i manaʻo haphazard a ʻoluʻolu ʻole a maoli. A no laila makemake mākou e kau i kahi kaulike ma waena o nā ʻano, a me ka ʻoiaʻiʻo o ka hana ʻino a pehea e hiki ai iā ʻoe ke hakakā no kēia kanaka ʻo ia ka hakakā ʻana i kēia daimonio. Akā maikaʻi ʻole ia, a ʻeha maoli ia. Aia kēlā manaʻo i loko o ka kaʻa kaʻa ma ke ʻano āu e like ai, aē, maikaʻi. E kāne ʻo ia e like me Mulan a mea ʻole, weliweli. A laila ma ka hopena, like ʻoe, ʻaʻole, ʻo kēia… he manaʻo weliweli kēia [ʻakaʻaka]. 

No laila ʻo ia ka mea a mākou e hele nei me ka kaʻa kaʻa kaʻa. Maliʻa he mea pilikino wale nō ia, akā manaʻo wau iā mākou āpau - kaʻu mau hoaaloha a me aʻu e hoʻomākeʻaka ai - like me, makemake wau e kaʻa wale iaʻu iho. Maopopo iā 'oe? Akā manaʻo wau ua like ka manaʻo ma kēia, aia kekahi manaʻo, ʻae, makemake nā poʻe āpau e loli. Makemake nā kānaka āpau e loli, e lilo i mea ʻoi aku ma mua o lākou. Akā e like, he aha ke kumukūʻai? Pehea ka paʻakikī? He aha kou lilo ke hoʻololi ʻoe? A kēlā ʻano mea.

Kelly McNeely: A e kamaʻilio pū ana me ka hana pū ʻana me kāu mau hoaaloha, ʻike wau ua hana pū ʻoe me lākou ma kekahi o kāu mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni āpau - pehea ʻoe i hui pū ai i kēlā poʻe luina? Pehea ʻoe i hui ai me nā mea āpau, pehea i hoʻokuʻi ai i nā mea āpau?

ʻO Perry Blackshear: He moʻolelo leʻaleʻa kēlā ʻaʻole wau e luhi i ke kamaʻilio ʻana. No laila ua hana pū mākou i mau pūʻulu kiʻiʻoniʻoni i ke koleke. Maikaʻi loa, mau hoaaloha maikaʻi, ʻo Evan [Dumouchel] lāua ʻo McLeod [Andrews] a ʻo wau. A laila ua hele au i ke kula grad, a aia ka nui o ke kaomi i ke kula grad e like me ke ʻano, komo i Sundance a mai hoʻopilikia paha. No laila manaʻo wau ua ona loa mākou. A ma kahi ʻōpala mākou no kekahi kumu. Manaʻo wau aia mākou i ka hele wāwae ma waho o ka ʻōpala, kahi kahi āu e makemake ai - ʻike ʻoe, makemake ʻoe ... akā, he mea hoʻomakeʻaka loa ia. Mākou i loko o ko mākou 20s. A like lākou, e hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. A hoʻolilo wau iā lākou i kuʻikahi; Ua kūʻai au iā lākou i nā tikika mokulele i Nu Ioka, a ua kiʻi wau i koʻu hoa noho i kahi wahi ʻokoʻa e noho ai no hoʻokahi mahina. Ua hala kekahi mau mahina, a ua ʻōlelo au, maikaʻi, e hele mai ana ʻoe i Nu Ioka, hana mākou i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. 

ʻAʻohe oʻu script, ʻaʻohe oʻu manaʻo i ka mea e hiki mai ana, aia i loko o ʻekolu mau mahina, e hiki ana ia, a i ʻole a hilahila loa wau iaʻu iho. A hiki iā ʻoe ke walaʻau wale iaʻu no hoʻokahi mahina. A ua holo. Manaʻo wau ke kanaka kākau XKCD e kamaʻilio e pili ana i kēlā, ke kū nei i kou hoʻolohi kū'ē i kāu hilahila lehulehu. Ua hana nui. Paipai wau iā ia. 

A laila he hoa aloha ʻo Margaret [Ying Drake]. Ua hele ʻo ia ma kekahi mau heluhelu a me nā mea aʻu i hana ai. No laila mākou i hōʻiliʻili ai i kahi luina o ka poʻe i iho maoli. A he poʻe hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni nō lākou i kā lākou kuleana ponoʻī, no laila ua hauʻoli loa lākou e lilo i ʻāpana o ke kaʻina. A pono wau e kāhea iā Libby Ewing. He mea weliweli ka lawe ʻana mai i kahi poʻe hou i ka ʻohana, akā ʻo ia he mea hui pū kekahi ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻole, a he wahine kiʻi ʻino ʻole pū kekahi. No laila he mea maikaʻi loa ka lilo ʻana iā ia i ʻāpana o kā mākou luina. 

Makemake wau, e hāʻawi iā ʻoe i kahi manaʻo o ke ʻano, ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni nei mākou i kēlā mau alanui ma ka hola 4, ʻo mākou wale nō ka luina. No laila ke hakakā nei nā mea hana ʻelua, ke kani nei ʻo Libby, a laila ʻo wau. O ia wale nō. ʻAʻohe mea ʻē aʻe, koe wale ka mākaʻi maikaʻi ʻole ma ka hope o ke alanui, ke pale nei iā mākou no ka mea ke hoʻohana nei mākou i kahi pū hoʻopunipuni a me nā mea āpau. I ka wā i hele mai ai ke kāne - makemake lākou i ka hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, uku ʻoe e noho ma laila, ʻaʻole maikaʻi ʻole ia - akā ua hōʻike wale mākou me kā mākou mea liʻiliʻi. A like ʻo ia, kali, he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni kēia? Like mākou, ʻae, akā i ka wā i hoʻomaka ai ka hanana hakakā, like ʻo ia, a, ʻoluʻolu. Loaʻa iaʻu i kēia manawa. No laila, he ʻano ʻohana maoli nō ia i kekahi mau ʻano. Akā maikaʻi loa ia. Ke hana nei wau i kahi mea liʻiliʻi hou aʻe ma ke kīwī i kēia manawa a me nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni nui aʻe. Akā ʻo ka hana pū ʻana me ka poʻe āu e mālama nui nei, e hana ana i nā mea āu e mālama ai, e hoʻomau nei i ka hana i kēlā ʻano, ua ... ʻōlelo wau, paʻakikī maoli ka hana ʻana i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e like me kēia, akā leʻaleʻa maoli ia.

Kelly McNeely: A maopopo iaʻu Ke nānā lākou e like me ke ʻano maoli o ka poʻe i kicks ʻia ma Fantasia a hiki i ka wā e hele ai nā ʻāpana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻano. Pehea, hoʻi ma Fantasia me Ke hoʻopau wau iā ʻoe, a hana i nā mea āpau no ka loli?

ʻO Perry Blackshear: ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ʻo ia kekahi o kēlā mau mea. Me he mea lā ke ʻike aku nei i kāu hoapili ʻoi loa no nā makahiki he nui, akā ma ka pūnaewele, a me he mea lā, maikaʻi loa kēia! A makemake wale wau e pūliki iā ʻoe, e ke kāne! A makemake wau e makemake, hele pū e ʻike pū i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a laila hele aku ʻoe e pāʻina awakea me nā poʻe hou a me nā mea hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hou. No laila he ʻawaʻawa ia no ka mea ʻehaʻeha kahi ʻāpana o ko mākou hui pū ʻole ʻana. Akā maikaʻi nō hoʻi ke hoʻi mai, a manaʻo wau i kēia mau kamaʻilio hoʻokahi-me-hoʻokahi me Zoom - ʻoiaʻiʻo, ua pili wau i nā poʻe he nui, a ua ʻike ka poʻe mai nā ʻāina āpau o Kanada e ʻike i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - manaʻo wau he nui ka poʻe i loaʻa e ʻike i kāu mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni no ka mea aia ma ka pūnaewele. No laila hoihoi ia, he ao hou koa kēia. Akā mahalo nui wau iā Mitch. Makemake wau e ʻōlelo i nā hoʻolauleʻa kiʻiʻoniʻoni āpau - ke hele ʻoe i nā mea he nui, a hōʻike mākou iā lākou āpau no ka mea aloha mākou iā lākou - he ʻano ʻokoʻa a me nā ʻuhane ʻokoʻa, a ʻo Fantasia, he kaiāulu maikaʻi loa ia. No laila maikaʻi maoli ka hoʻi ʻana mai.

Kelly McNeely: Pehea ʻoe e hānai ai i kāu mea hana? He aha ka mea e hoʻonāukiuki ai iā ʻoe? 

ʻO Perry Blackshear: Nīnau nui. Nui nā poʻe aʻu i kamaʻilio ai e ʻike i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli i ko lākou wā ʻōpio. A nānā wale wau i nā hōʻike kūlohelohe i koʻu wā ʻōpio. No laila noʻu, nui ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni mai ka ʻike ola a me nā kumuwaiwai ʻē aʻe e like me ke mele a me nā hana akamai a me nā kaʻao, akā ʻo ka nui o ia ʻano ke ʻano o ke ola a me nā moemoeā, a me nā moemoeā a kaʻu mau hoaaloha, a me nā moʻolelo aʻu e lohe nei. A manaʻo wau e pili ana i ka mea e hoʻohuli ai i ka noʻonoʻo, loaʻa iaʻu kahi ʻano ʻaoʻao ʻē aʻe kahi e loaʻa ai iaʻu e like me ka faucet e holo nei ma hope i nā manawa āpau, kahi aʻu e makemake ai, e nānā pono ʻoe i kāu ʻauhau - oh I Loaʻa iā mākou kahi manaʻo e pili ana i kahi kanaka ʻauhau a me kahi daimonio a! - ʻaʻole, pono ʻoe e nānā ... ua like kēia me kēia mau. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu inā he mea maikaʻi ia, no ka mea, hoʻopilikia ia i kekahi manawa i nā mea ʻē aʻe aʻu e hoʻāʻo nei e hana. Akā ʻaʻole, pīhoihoi loa ia. ʻO ka loaʻa pū ʻana o nā mea kōkua i like ke ʻano. 

A iho i lalo ka nui - e ʻike, pehea wau e ʻōlelo ai i kēia - makemake ʻoe e hana i nā mea pilikino, akā me kā mākou hui kime, ua kamaʻilio mākou e pili ana i ka ʻokoʻa ma waena o kahi puke pai a me kahi leka aloha. ʻO kahi komo puke pai e like me, nāu wale nō ia. E like me, he mea maikaʻi paha ia, akā naʻu nō ia, a hiki iā ʻoe ke hana, akā ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e hōʻike ia mea i kekahi poʻe ʻakaʻaka maoli. Mea wau, hiki iā ʻoe, akā like, hiki ʻole ke hauʻoli kekahi i ka hopena. A kahi leka aloha, he pilikino ia, akā no ka poʻe hoʻolohe pū kekahi. I kekahi mau ʻano, hoʻolaʻa ʻia kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i nā poʻe i koʻu ola a me nā hoaaloha a me nā mea e like me kēlā. No laila no nā poʻe ʻē aʻe. 

Eia hou, ke kiʻi nei ʻoe iaʻu e kamaʻilio nui e pili ana i kēia mea, no ka mea pīhoihoi ke kamaʻilio ʻana, ʻike ʻoe, no hea mai kēia mau mea āpau. A ʻelua o kaʻu mau meʻe ʻo JRR Tolkein - luʻuluʻu loa - a ʻo Brian Jacques kekahi, nāna i hana ke kaʻina ʻo Mossflower a me Redwall. ʻAʻole ʻike ka poʻe e pili ana, ʻoluʻolu ia i nā 80 a me nā 90 mau mua. ʻO ke kumu i kākau ai ʻo ia i nā moʻolelo hoʻokalakupua ʻo ia ke ola ma ke ʻano he luina a me ka mea lawe leta, a me kahi hui o nā mea ʻē aʻe. A ke hāʻawi manawaleʻa nei ʻo ia e heluhelu i kēia mau keiki. A like ʻo ia, ʻaʻole maikaʻi nā moʻolelo o kēia poʻe keiki. No laila like ʻo ia, e kākau wau i kahi moʻolelo swashbuckling maikaʻi loa e heluhelu i kēia mau keiki. A ke hele mai nā moʻolelo mai laila, nui wale ko lākou ʻuhane a me ka puʻuwai iā lākou. A ʻo ia nā mea e hoʻonāukiuki nui ʻia wau e ka poʻe e lawe i kēlā i nā moʻolelo a lākou e haʻi ai. No laila ʻo ia kaʻu kumu nui o ka hoʻouluulu.

Kelly McNeely: A hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i nā hopena kūpono i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

ʻO Perry Blackshear: ʻ,, ʻē, leʻaleʻa kēlā. ʻO wau e, ʻike ʻoe, he hoaaloha kā mākou e hana nei i kekahi o nā maka o ka maka. Akā ʻo ka mea i loaʻa iā mākou ke hoʻomaka mākou e kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā hopena, hoʻomaka mākou e hele i kai, a like mākou, maikaʻi, he aha ka manaʻo o ka psychologically ʻoiaʻiʻo a maoli ma aneʻi? He aha ka mea e hiki ai iā mākou ke hana i kūpono i ka paʻa, a me ke ʻano maʻalahi? Ma muli o kaʻu heluhelu ʻana - maopopo iā ʻoe pehea ʻoe e heluhelu ai i nā mea, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu he ʻoiaʻiʻo kēia - akā ke kamaʻilio nei e pili ana i ke ahi e hoʻomake ai i nā neurons like ʻole i ke kino e like me ka ʻeha o ke kino. A manaʻo wau he manaʻo maoli kēlā. 

Kelly McNeely: Me he mea lā he ʻano [ʻakaʻaka] kēlā.

ʻO Perry Blackshear: Me he mea lā heʻoiaʻiʻo ia, no laila e hele pū mākou me ia. ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ʻo ia ka mea e pili ana i ka pūnaewele, ʻike anei ʻoe i nā mea e ʻoiaʻiʻo nei, a hele pū ʻoe me ia [ʻakaʻaka]. Akā ua manaʻo wau aia kekahi manaʻo ke hele ʻoe i loko o ka hopohopo, a kaumaha paha, a me ka mehameha, a i ʻole kēia mau mea āpau, ke manaʻo nui nei i loko o ke kino a ʻaʻole i kou poʻo, ʻano hewa ʻoe. A no laila makemake wau e hoʻokumu i ka lepo, ʻano kino, ma mua o ka ʻano o nā mea āpau i ka ʻāina hoʻokalakupua. 

Ke nānā nei wau i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni he nui mai nā makahiki 70. A makemake wau i kēlā ʻano noir-y, folklore-y mea āu e manaʻo ai i nā mea, a kuhi wau ʻo ia ke ʻano o nā ʻano manaʻo e pili ana i ka pane. Akā manaʻo wau ʻo ia kā mākou e hele nei, me ka poʻe hoʻokani a me nā limahana. A ke manaʻo nei wau makemake nui ka hapa nui o mākou i ka moʻolelo, ka hana a me ke kuhikuhi. A leʻaleʻa nā mea ʻē aʻe, akā ʻaʻole mākou makemake e lawe aku ia iā ʻoe mai, nā hana a me nā mea a mākou e makemake ai e pili ana i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni.

Kelly McNeely: Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe e hana ana ʻoe i kekahi mau mea TV. He aha aʻe nou? He aha kāu e hana nei?

ʻO Perry Blackshear: ʻ,, maikaʻi, pīhoihoi loa ia. I ka makahiki i hala aku nei, ua kūʻai aku au i kahi hōʻike iā Netflix, a laila pā ka maʻi ahulau, a no laila aia i kēlā wahi kahi e komo ai nā mea i kēia manawa. Akā he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻē kaʻu na kekahi mea kākau ʻē aʻe. Hoihoi loa ia. ʻAʻole wau i ʻike i kēlā ma mua, a leʻaleʻa maoli kēlā. A laila kahi hōʻike kīwī ʻē aʻe e pili ana i kahi daimonio e hānai nei i ka loneli iaʻu maoli pīhoihoi e pili ana. He ʻano makahiki e hiki mai ana, hapalua hola, weliweli, aloha nui wau iā ia, no laila pīhoihoi loa ia. 

A aia kekahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i kapa ʻia - a wacky loa kēia - kāhea ʻia ʻO Hell Hell. Akā ua kōkua wau i ke kākau ʻana, a e puka mai ana ma Fantastic Fest koke, manaʻo wau i kēia mahina e hiki mai ana a i ʻole i kekahi mau mahina. Kau ʻia e Gigi Saul Guerrero a kākau ʻia e Shane McKenzie, a ua kōkua wau i ke kākau ʻana. A he haʻalele holoʻokoʻa ia. He mea hoʻomākeʻaka weliweli ia, ʻano like ia me kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni 70. Akā pili ia i kahi hui o ka poʻe ʻelemākule e hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻia ʻana mai kahi kaiāulu. A laila hele mai i loko kēia hewa asshole gentrifier a hoʻomaka i ka hoʻowalewale me kā lākou mea āpau, a hui pū lākou e kīkī i kāna hoki. A leʻaleʻa loa ia. Nani maikaʻi loa ia. 

A lana koʻu manaʻo e hoʻomau i ka hana ʻana i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni me ka kime like, ma nā ʻano like. No laila, he maniacs mākou, ua pau ka hoʻoponopono ʻana a huli au i loko, a laila aia mākou ma ke kelepona pū, e like, no laila he aha kā mākou makemake e hana aʻe? No laila pīhoihoi maoli nō ia. He pīhoihoi ka hana ʻana ma kēia ala pili a laila e hoʻomau i ka ʻimi ʻana i ka poʻe ma Hollywood e makemake e hana pū pēlā. No laila, i kēia manawa inā hiki iā mākou ke hoʻopau wale i kēia maʻi maʻi. ʻIke wau hiki i kekahi mea nāna e mālama i kēlā mea ke hana me kēlā ʻāpana. 

Kelly McNeely: Ua hiamoe lākou ma ka huila. 

ʻO Perry Blackshear: ʻO nā akua āpau e mālama i nā pandemics, pono mākou e hoʻomaka i ka mōhai iā lākou a i ʻole, no ka mea maopopo, ʻaʻole lawa ko lākou aloha.