Hoʻopiʻi ʻia a piha i nā ilo - ka nānā ʻana ma ke ʻano he ʻāpana o ʻO Fantasia Fest 2022 — ʻo ia kekahi o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻē aʻe aʻu i hauʻoli ai e ʻike. Kahaha ma nā ʻano kūpono a pau, lawe ʻo ia i kāna poʻe i kahi huakaʻi hihiu, hoʻoulu ʻia e ka mana psychedelic o nā ilo.

"Ma hope o ka ʻike ʻana i kahi huna huna o nā ilo hallucinogenic ikaika, ʻo Roscoe, he kanaka mālama no kahi motel liʻiliʻi, e hahai ana i kahi ala o ka luku iā ia iho ma nā alaloa o Chicago. Ke alakaʻi ʻia nei e nā hihiʻo o kahi Worm e lana ana, ua hālāwai ʻo ia me Benny, kahi moped e hoʻāʻo nei e hōʻike i kahi pēpē mai kahi pēpē wahine ola ʻole. A hui pū, aloha lākou i ka hana ʻana i nā ilo ma mua o ka hoʻomaka ʻana i kahi euphoric, hallucinatory odyssey o ka moekolohe a me ka hana ʻino.

Ua loaʻa iaʻu ka manawa e noho ai i lalo e kamaʻilio me ka mea kākau/ke alakaʻi o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ʻo Alex Phillips, e pili ana i ka hana ʻana i ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ka nīnau ilo ʻā, a no hea mai kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni.

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Kelly McNeely: ʻO kaʻu nīnau mua he mea ʻelua. No laila, he aha lā? A no hea mai ia mea? [ʻakaʻaka]

ʻO Alex Phillips: [ʻakaʻaka] ʻAe, he aha lā? ʻOi aku ka paʻakikī o kēlā. Akā mai hea mai ia, maikaʻi, ʻae, no laila ua ʻike wau i kekahi mau mea hoʻohaʻahaʻa noʻonoʻo. Ua hele au i loko maoli maoli, e like me, psychosis. A ua ikaika loa a weliweli, a ua luku loa i ko'u ola. ʻAʻole wau e ʻōlelo no ke aloha. Akā ʻo ia kahi o ka ʻakaʻaka, a no ke aha ka ʻakaʻaka [ʻakaʻaka].

Ke hiki mai kēlā, makemake nui ʻoe - ʻo wau, maikaʻi wau i kēia manawa, ua lawe au i nā lāʻau lapaʻau he nui a me nā mea leʻaleʻa āpau - akā i ka wā e hiki mai ai, nui nā manaʻo hoʻopunipuni pupule, e like me ka paranoia, hoʻopunipuni, hallucinations, nā mea maikaʻi a pau. A ua maʻa wau i ka ʻike ʻana i nā kiʻi he nui o ka maʻi noʻonoʻo ma ke ʻano psychologically realistic, kahi e like ai kekahi, ʻo ia ka mea i loaʻa iaʻu. A ke kamaʻilio nei lākou e pili ana i ko lākou hiki ʻana mai. A ʻaʻole pololei kēlā iaʻu, e pili ana i koʻu ʻike, no ka mea, he mea ʻino loa a weliweli. 

A no laila, ʻo kēia wale nō kaʻu e ʻōlelo nei, like, yeah, fuck you, mental maʻi. ʻAʻole au i makemake e pili pono i ia mea. No ka mea, he traumatic ma nā ʻano he nui, ʻaʻole ia i hoʻomaikaʻi i koʻu ola. Me he mea lā, ʻaʻole wau makemake e haʻi i kahi moʻolelo e pili ana i ka lanakila ʻana i ka pilikia, no ka mea, ua ʻike ʻoe, he ʻuʻuku maoli no kekahi manawa ma laila. 

No laila, manaʻo wau ua like kēia me kēia - me kēia mau mea paʻakikī i makemake ʻole ʻia, ʻaʻole lākou he poʻe maikaʻi - akā manaʻo wau e like me ʻoe i loko o ka ʻeha o nā mea maikaʻi ʻole e hana nei, a me ka hui pū me nā lāʻau lapaʻau a me nā mea āpau. ʻO kēia mau mea ʻē aʻe, ʻaʻole maikaʻi nā kānaka. No laila, manaʻo wau he hōʻike hoʻopono kēlā.

A laila - ʻoiai ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo - e hoʻohana pū ana i ke ʻano i mea e hiki ai i ka poʻe hoʻolohe ke komo a makemake hoʻi e aʻo e pili ana i ka huakaʻi, a he manawa maikaʻi nō hoʻi e hana ai. No ka mea, ʻo ia ka mea ʻē aʻe, he pupule a he ʻakaʻaka kēlā mea, a ʻano ʻē a weliweli i ka manawa like. 

Kelly McNeely: Ma ke kamaʻilio ʻana i nā kiʻi a me nā mea hoʻokani, makemake wau e nīnau iā ʻoe e pili ana i ke kaʻina hana hoʻolei, no ka mea, nani nā mea hoʻokani. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi e pili ana i ke kaʻina hoʻolei? No ka mea, ke manaʻo nei au aia kahi ala kūikawā e hoʻokau i kēia mau ʻano a hoʻokau i kēia mau kuleana. 

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻAe. ʻAe, ʻo ka nui o nā poʻe i loaʻa iā mākou he mau hoaaloha wale nō naʻu, aia lākou i ke kaiāulu ma Chicago. A ua hana lākou i nā mea hoʻokolohua he nui, a ua hana pū wau me lākou ma mua a me kekahi i loko o koʻu pōkole, a i ʻole ma ke ʻano laulā, e like me ka hana hana, a i ʻole ma Chicago. 

No laila, ʻo koʻu manaʻo, ʻaʻole like ia me ka makemake i kahi mea hoʻolele hoʻolele Hollywood a me ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e ʻimi i kekahi e hana i kēia mea. Ua like paha ia, ʻike ʻoe, ʻo kēia kanaka ʻo Mike Lopez, ʻo ia ʻo Biff, ke kanaka i loko o ka clown makeup a ke hoʻokele nei ʻo ia i ka kaʻa. Ua like ʻo ia me kahi kanaka ʻoluʻolu a ʻano ʻē aʻu i ʻike ai, ʻike ʻoe? A he ʻakaʻaka ʻo ia a kāhāhā a me ke ʻano o kāna hāʻawi ʻana i nā laina, no laila ua like wau, ʻeā, makemake ʻoe e lilo ʻoe iā ʻoe iho me ka clown makeup? A ua hana mākou pehea e hoʻoweliweli ai.

A pēlā ke ʻano o ka nui o ka hoʻolei ʻana. ʻO Eva, ʻo ia ʻo Henrietta, ʻaʻohe ona ʻike hana keaka, he mea kupanaha loa. Ua noi au iā ia e komo i loko o kekahi o koʻu mau pōkole i ka wā ma mua. A laila ua like wau, ʻae, aia ʻoe me aʻu mai kēia manawa, maikaʻi ʻoe. 

No laila ua nui loa ia. A laila ʻo Betsey Brown, ʻo ia paha kekahi o kā mākou mea keaka kaulana loa, he pilina wale nō ʻo ia ma o kā mākou mea hopena, ʻo Ben, ua hana ʻo ia me ia ma ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni. ʻO nā pōā. No laila, manaʻo mākou he kūpono ʻo ia no kēia papahana, no ka mea, he pupule loa, a komo ʻo ia i nā mea pupule. 

Kelly McNeely: A me ka hui ʻana o ke kani a me ka hoʻolālā leo i loko Hoʻopiʻi ʻia a piha i nā ilo maikaʻi nō hoʻi. Makemake au i ka hoʻohana ʻana i kēlā jazz abstract, manaʻo wau he mea kupanaha, ʻano hana ia i kēlā manaʻo o ka hele mālie, aʻu i manaʻo ai he hana maikaʻi loa ia no kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni. Maopopo iaʻu ua loaʻa iā ʻoe ka ʻike me ka hoʻohui ʻana i ke kani, e like me ka ʻāpana o kāu ʻano hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi e pili ana i ka lilo ʻana i ʻāpana o kāu repertoire? ʻO kāu mākaukau hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni, manaʻo wau? 

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻAe. ʻAe, no laila, i koʻu wā kamaliʻi, makemake au e lilo i mea kākau. A ʻike koke wau, e like me, ke puka nei au, akā ʻaʻohe mea e uku mai iaʻu e hana i kēlā. ʻAʻole koke koke. No laila, makemake au e hana ma ka papa hana, no laila pono wau e aʻo i kahi akamai e pono ai nā kānaka e hoʻohana [ʻakaʻaka].

No laila ua aʻo wau iaʻu iho i ka hoʻohui leo. A ʻo ia kaʻu hana i kaʻu hana o ka lā, hoʻopaʻa wau i ke kani no nā ʻano mea like ʻole e like me nā pāʻoihana, wikiō, nā palapala, nā mea like. A laila ma ke ʻano o ka hoʻolālā leo a me nā mele a me nā mea like, he mea mau ia - aia wau i loko o nā hui ma ke kulanui a ma ke kula kiʻekiʻe - a he ʻāpana wale nō ia o nā mea aʻu e makemake ai e hana. 

A ʻo Sam Clapp o Kūʻai Cue, 'o ia me a'u i ka'i 'ana ma kahi o ke kula nui ma St. Louis, a no laila ua 'ano pa'a like a ka'ana like i nā mana'o he nui no ka manawa lō'ihi. No laila ua hana ʻo ia i ke mele no kekahi o kaʻu mau pōkole a me nā mea, a like me Alex Inglizian o Keena Leo Hoʻokolohua. Ua hana nui au me ia ma mua. No laila, loaʻa iā mākou nā mea hana maʻamau a me ka ʻike, a ʻike wale nō hoʻi i ka hana ʻana me kekahi i ke ala e huki ai i nā mea ʻino a loaʻa i ka Foley a loaʻa ke kani. 

Hiki iaʻu ke haʻi iā Sam e like, ʻae, e like kēia me Goblin, akā hoʻohui i kahi saxophone a like, paʻa. Maopopo iā ʻoe? A laila hiki iā mākou ke hoʻokolohua me ia a neʻe a puni, a ʻimi i nā mea e hana. 

Kelly McNeely: ʻAe, he ala maikaʻi loa ia e wehewehe ai. Ua like ia me Goblin me kahi saxophone. Ua like loa, Suspiria i kekahi manawa. E hoʻolei wale i kahi sax a laila e hoʻolei i nā pū ma laila. 

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻAe, ʻae, hoʻomaka mākou iā Goblin. A laila hele mau mākou i, e like me ka uila uila. A aia ma waena o laila. A laila ʻike mākou e like me, aia kekahi i kapa ʻia ʻo radiator rhythms. ʻO ia wale nō no ka mea ma Chicago, he anuanu maoli nō, a loaʻa i kēlā me kēia mea kēlā mau radiator metala kahiko nui, a ke kani mau nei no ka maloʻo ma laila. A ʻo ia ka mea a mākou i makemake ai e hana no ke keʻena o Benny i kou hālāwai mua ʻana me ia. 

Kelly McNeely: No laila pehea i hui pū ai kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni? ʻIke wau ua hana pū ʻoe me nā hoaaloha a me nā mea like, no ka mea hou, he manaʻo ʻāhiu loa ka pitch. Pehea i hiki mai ai kēia ʻano, manaʻo wau? 

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻAe, ʻo wau, ua hoʻāʻo wau e hele i nā ala kuʻuna me ka pitching no kekahi manawa, a paʻakikī wale ke hele mai kahi pōkole a i kahi hiʻohiʻona a manaʻo e hele mai kekahi mai kahi e makemake ai, e mālama iā ʻoe ma laila…

ʻO Kelly McNeely: He makuahine akua, e like me, e lawe i kēia kālā! 

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻAe, ʻae, pololei. Me he mea lā, e like paha me he miliona kālā, eia ʻoe! [ʻakaʻaka] He ʻano paʻakikī. ʻAe, ʻo kaʻu manaʻo, ʻo ka mea i hana ʻia, ʻo kēia ka poʻe āpau aʻu i hana ai ma mua, no laila ua hoʻolaʻa maoli lākou a iho i lalo no ke kumu. No laila, ua like lākou me ke kumu kūʻai a manuahi paha. A manuahi nā lako a pau, a loaʻa iā mākou kekahi mau haʻawina, a laila ʻaiʻē kāleka hōʻaiʻē. 

A laila hana wau i kaʻu mau mea wikiō, no ka mea ua pau wau i ka lawe ʻana - ma muli o COVID - ua pau wau i ʻekolu a ʻoi aku paha mau makahiki e hoʻopau. I kekahi manawa ke hoʻouna wale nei au i kaʻu uku i loko o ka waihona e uku i kekahi mau mea ʻē aʻe. A no laila ʻo ka hoʻohui ʻana i nā mea a pau i ka manawa e hoʻokō ai. No ka mea, he hana aloha ia, i kekahi manawa, ua hohonu loa mākou, pono mākou e hoʻopau. 

Kelly McNeely: Ua hele loa ʻoe, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke huli i hope i kēia manawa. 

ʻO Alex Phillips: yeah

Kelly McNeely: Ua like ia me kēlā manaʻo, i ka wā i lawe ai ʻoe i ka lāʻau lapaʻau, ua hoʻomaka ʻoe i ka huakaʻi, pono ʻoe e holo i waho. Akau? 

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻAe, komo i ka lepo. 

Kelly McNeely: No laila ma ke ʻano o ka holo ʻana i kēlā huakaʻi i waho, pehea i ulu ai ka manaʻo o ka hana ilo - no ke ʻano o kēlā kiʻekiʻe? Loaʻa iā ia ka ikehu ʻokoʻa ke nānā ʻoe, ua like ʻoe, ʻano maopopo iaʻu i ko lākou manaʻo i ko lākou hele ʻana i kēia. Ua kiʻekiʻe iki au i ka nānā ʻana.

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻAe, ʻae. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, he ʻakaʻaka kēlā. ʻAʻohe kanaka i nīnau mai iaʻu i kēlā. Akā, manaʻo wau no ka like, makemake e noʻonoʻo e pili ana i ke ʻano o ka loaʻa ʻana o kekahi mea i loko o kou kino, e like me ka hoʻolalelale ʻana iā ʻoe a laila e like me ka sweatiness, kahi puʻuwai hopohopo. Me he mea lā, hiki iā ʻoe ke honi i nā mea a pau a ke neʻe nei lākou, a makemake nui lākou. ʻAe, manaʻo wale ʻo ia wale nō kaʻu i manaʻo ai e like me kēia, ʻo kēia hopohopo wale nō.

Kelly McNeely: He ʻano like kona manaʻo, inā ʻoe ma luna o nā halo a hoʻoholo e hana DMT, a like ia, ma hea wau e hele ai i kēia manawa? He aha kaʻu e hana nei? 

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻAe, ʻae, ua like ia me nā hallucinogens wikiwiki. 

Kelly McNeely: He aha ka pilikia nui o ka hana ʻana Hoʻopiʻi ʻia a piha i nā ilo? ʻO ke kālā a me nā mea a pau, e like me ka hana ʻana i ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni?

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻAe. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, paʻakikī wale nō, no ka mea, lōʻihi loa. Ua like ka nui. Nui nā mea ma laila [ʻakaʻaka]. ʻAe, ʻaʻole ia o kaʻu mau hoa hana, ʻoiaʻiʻo. Ua haʻahaʻa loa nā kānaka a pau. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, nui loa ʻo COVID. No ka mea ua pani ʻo COVID iā mākou. Ua hoʻomaka mākou i ka pana ʻana ma Malaki 2020, ma mua o ka noho ʻana o COVID. A laila loaʻa iā mākou ʻeiwa mau lā i ka pana ʻana, a ʻo ia ka manawa i hoʻolaha ʻia ai ka maʻi maʻi honua. 

Ua huki lākou i kā mākou ʻae, ʻo ka hale kaʻa e hāʻawi ana iā mākou i nā lako a pau i ʻōlelo ʻia e hoʻihoʻi i kēlā kaʻa i ʻaneʻi, no ka mea pono mākou i kā mākou pahupaʻiwikiō a me nā mea āpau. No laila ua hana ʻia. Manaʻo wau ʻo ia ka mea paʻakikī loa. A laila e like me ka noʻonoʻo ʻana pehea e hoʻopau ai i kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni ma mua o ka loaʻa ʻana o nā kano a me nā mea, a pehea e hoʻokō ai i ka COVID me ka loaʻa ʻole o ke kālā no kēlā me kēia, a mālama pono kekahi i kekahi a hoʻokō.

No laila, pana mākou no ʻelima mau lā i ka manawa, a lawe i ʻelua pule ma waena o kēlā me kēia hoʻomaha. No laila ʻae, nā mea a pau. ʻAʻohe hale hana, ʻaʻohe keʻena hana, ʻike ʻoe, ua like ia me aʻu a me Georgia (Bernstein, Producer). ʻAʻole AD. No laila ʻo ia wale nō, ʻoiaʻiʻo. ʻAe, ʻo ka mea paʻakikī loa, ʻaʻohe PA [ʻakaʻaka]. 

Kelly McNeely: E like me ka mea hou, e kolo ana i loko o kēlā lepo [ʻakaʻaka]. Ma ke ʻano he mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni, he aha ka mea e hoʻoikaika a hoʻoikaika paha iā ʻoe?

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻEā, ʻelua mea ʻokoʻa, ʻelua mea nui. ʻO kekahi ka ʻike pilikino a me ka ʻoiaʻiʻo iaʻu iho, a i ʻole koʻu leo, a i ʻole koʻu manaʻo. A laila like ka mea ʻē aʻe, makemake wau i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni. Ua like wau me kahi nerd nui, ʻike ʻoe, nānā wale wau iā lākou i nā manawa a pau. Akā ʻaʻole wau e hana i kahi mea referential wale nō ka mea i hui pū ʻia, e like me, huki ʻia mai kahi pūʻulu mea. Makemake au e hoʻohana i kēlā mau mea a pau ma ke ʻano he ʻōlelo a ʻōlelo wale. E ʻōlelo i kaʻu ʻoiaʻiʻo ma ia ʻōlelo, inā he manaʻo kēlā. 

Kelly McNeely: ʻOiaʻiʻo. A ma ke ʻano he nerd kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a ma hope o ka nānā ʻana i kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ʻike wau he nīnau cheesy loa kēia e nīnau ai, akā he aha kāu kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli?

ʻO Alex Phillips: ʻO koʻu manaʻo, ʻae, ʻo ka pane maʻalahi iaʻu, ʻae, agh! ʻAʻole maʻalahi. Ua nīnau mai kekahi iaʻu i kēia ma mua, a ʻōlelo wau ʻIke ʻo Texas Chain Saw Massacre, akā, e waiho wau i kēlā. A i kēia manawa, e ʻōlelo wau Ka mea. ʻO John Carpenter's Ka mea. 

Kelly McNeely: Maikaʻi, koho maikaʻi loa. A eia hou, ʻo ʻoe iho he cinephile nui, a ma muli o ka hoihoi, he aha ka mea ʻē aʻe a ʻano like paha… he aha ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni āu i ʻike ai?

ʻO Alex Phillips: Makemake au i kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ʻo Fulchi's Mai Hoʻomāinoino ʻoe i kahi ʻeke ʻeke i kēia manawa, ʻano ʻē loa kēlā. Nui ka hana. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu inā ʻo ia ka mea ʻē. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, hiki iaʻu ke ʻōlelo, e like me nā mea a Larry Clark, a i ʻole like Humper ʻōpala a i ʻole he mea ʻē aʻe paha. ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu. He ʻano ʻē lākou a pau. Akā, ʻae, ʻo Fulchi kahi mea ʻē aʻe. 

Kelly McNeely: A pono wau e nīnau, a ua nīnau mua ʻia paha ʻoe i kēia nīnau, akā aia kekahi ilo i pōʻino i ka hana ʻana i kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni? 

ʻO Alex Phillips: Ua akahele loa makou i keia mau keiki liilii. A ʻae, ʻaʻole wau makemake e haʻi iā ʻoe pehea mākou i ʻai ʻole ai, akā ʻaʻole mākou i ʻai. 

Kelly McNeely: Ua noʻonoʻo wau i ka manawa holoʻokoʻa, he gelatin paha kēia, a he aha ka mea e hana nei?

ʻO Alex Phillips: He mea maoli lākou a pau. A e hoʻokiʻekiʻe loa lākou iā ʻoe. 

Kelly McNeely: A he aha kāu mea e hiki mai ana? 

ʻO Alex Phillips: Loaʻa iaʻu kēia thriller erotic aʻu e pana ai i kēia makahiki aʻe. Ua kapa ʻia Kekahi Mea Nee e pili ana i kēia ʻōpio, pumehana pupule. Ua like ia me Channing Tatum, akā ua like ʻo ia, 19. A he kanaka lawe kaʻa kaʻa ʻo ia, akā kūʻai aku ʻo ia i kona kino ma ka ʻaoʻao ma ke ʻano hānai maoli. I kona hāʻawi ʻana i ka meaʻai i nā kānaka. ʻIke ʻoe, inā ʻo Timothy Chalamet kāu kāne UberEATS, a he gigolo. ʻO ia ke ʻano o ka manaʻo. 

A laila hopu ʻia ʻo ia i kēia thriller pupule, ke huli nei kāna poʻe kūʻai āpau i ka pepehi ʻia ʻana. A no laila, ʻo kēia keiki ma luna o kona poʻo, ua like ia me ka hohonu, a pono ʻo ia e noʻonoʻo i ka mea e hana nei a hoʻopakele i kāna mau mea kūʻai aku āna e mālama pono ai. A laila, ʻike ʻoe, ua pili ʻo ia a me nā mea āpau, makemake ʻo ia e noʻonoʻo i ka mea e hana nei.

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No ka mea hou aku ma Fantasia Fest 2022, kaomi ma aneʻi e heluhelu i kā mākou nīnauele me ʻAnoʻeleʻele alakaʻi Berkley Brady, a i ʻole e heluhelu i kā mākou loiloi no Rebekah McKendry nani