Ma mua o ka mea hou IT, ʻO ka hiʻohiʻona kiʻi o Tim Curry ka mea i ʻike ʻia e ka poʻe ʻo Pennywise the shapeshifting clown, i hoʻolālā ʻia e ka mea pena kiʻi kūikawā ʻo Bart Mixon. Mai ka hoʻomaka ʻana o ka moʻolelo TV i ka makahiki 1990, ua loaʻa i ka kaulana a hoʻomau i ka hoʻokau ʻana i ka makaʻu o nā clowns i loko o nā puʻuwai ʻAmelika. 

Ua loaʻa iā Mixon kahi ʻoihana lōʻihi mai ʻO Robocop i na hana hou ma ka Kahu o ka Galaxy nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni. Ua kamaʻilio pū ʻo iHorror iā ia ma kāna hana ʻoiai e hoʻolaha ana i kahi palapala moʻolelo ma 1990s IT kahi i ninaninau ʻia ai ʻo ia e pili ana i ka hoʻokumu ʻana i ka makeup o Pennywise a me ka hāʻawi ʻana i nā kiʻi BTS, Pennywise: Ka moʻolelo o IT. 

Ma kēia nīnauele, kamaʻilio ʻo Mixon i kāna ʻike i ka wā IT ke hana ʻia nei, pehea ʻo ia e manaʻo ai ua pau ia a me kāna mau kiʻi hana Pennywise punahele. A inā he mea aloha ʻoe i nā makahiki 1990 IT, mālama i kēia palapala hōʻike ma kāu radar. 

ʻO Bri Spieldenner: He mea kākoʻo nui wau i koʻu ola a pau i nā hopena kūpono. No laila he mea weliweli ke kamaʻilio ʻana me kekahi kanaka nona ka moʻolelo nui i loko. E like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai ma mua, ʻoluʻolu loa ʻo Pennywise e like me kāu pēpē.

Bart Mixon: ʻO kekahi e like me Stan Winston he moʻolelo koʻikoʻi o ka nui o nā mea ʻoluʻolu. No laila, e like me kaʻu e haʻi aku nei iā Rick Baker, maikaʻi ke loaʻa. A manaʻo wau ʻo Pennywise kaʻu. Ua hoʻohana au i nā mea hoʻonaninani he nui; Ua hana au ma ke kumu ʻO Robocop a Hellboy a me nā mea like. Akā ua hoʻolālā ʻia kēlā mau mea e nā mea pena kiʻi ʻē aʻe a ke noi nei au, akā naʻu ʻo Pennywise mai ka hoʻomaka ʻana. Naʻu i kālai, hoʻolālā ʻia, no laila, mai ka hoʻomaka a i ka pau ʻana, ʻo wau ke kuleana no nā hopena mea ola a pau. 

A kikoʻī, like paha me ka naʻau, ʻaʻole, ke hana nei au i kēlā make-up. ʻOiai he poʻe nui koʻu, ʻoi aku kou maikaʻi e like me kāu poʻe holo. A loaʻa iaʻu kahi hui maikaʻi loa ma kēlā me nā moʻolelo ʻoihana e like me Norman Cabrera a me Aaron Sims a me Joey Orosco a me Brent Baker a me Jim McLaughlin.

BS: He aha kāu ʻano punahele o ka make-up o Pennywise?

WB: ʻAe, ʻo Tim Curry. ʻO ia paha ka manawa mua aʻu i loaʻa ai ka hōkū, ʻoiai ua hana wau e like me Peter Weller ma mua o kēlā, ua hana wau i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni me Shelley Winters i ka waena o '80s. Ma waena Legend a Weliweli Pōhaku, He peʻahi wale nō wau. He ʻano haʻalulu paha e like me kāu e ʻike ai, manaʻolana wau ʻaʻole wau e wili. 

Mahalo nui wau no ka hana ʻana i ka nānā ʻana i ka ʻakika pākaukau, no ka mea, ʻaneʻane ʻaʻole mākou i hana pēlā. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, ua kālai wau iā ia, lawe iā ia i Kanada e pana me ia akā ua pau mākou i ka manawa. A ua koho lākou e pana wale i ke kiʻi i kona ʻano maʻamau. ʻO kaʻoiaʻiʻo, pono wau e kūkulu i kahi papeti hoʻomaha 18-ʻīniha no ka wā e iho ai ʻo ia i lalo o ke kahawai a mākou i kālai ai e like me Pennywise maʻamau. A ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ka lā aʻu i hana ai i ka pōhaku ma luna o ia mea a loaʻa iaʻu ka hapa mua o ka plaster, ʻo Jean Warren ka mea nāna i mālama i nā hopena ʻike i ʻōlelo ʻia e hana hou ana mākou, a e hoʻohana mākou i kāu ʻakika pākaukau. nana aku. 

Ua hana mua wau i mua o ka mea i loko o ka plaster no laila ke holo au i ka papeti, pono wau e lawe i kahi kiola ola liʻiliʻi a laila hana i kahi mea hana liʻiliʻi e hoʻopili ai i luna a hana i kahi hoʻohālike like ma kēia ʻeono a i ʻole hapaha. ʻeono, ʻo kēia Tim Curry liʻiliʻi. Akā ʻo Tim, i kāna hōʻaiʻē, ua hāʻawi manawaleʻa ʻo ia e komo i ka make-up. Ua ʻike ʻo ia i nā ʻāpana ma Kanada a ua mahalo nui ʻo ia e pili ana i ia mea. He moeʻuhane wale nō ʻo ia akā ke manaʻo nei au ʻo kaʻu mea punahele o kēlā make-up ʻo ia ka waikawa pākaukau.

BS: Manaʻo wau he hana maikaʻi loa ia, weliweli loa kēlā nānā.

WB: ʻO ka mea pōʻino, pau ke ʻano kiʻiʻoniʻoni i ka wā i haʻalele ai ʻo Tim a ʻaʻole wau i manaʻo ʻo ia ka hewa o Tommy a me ka poʻe haʻi moʻolelo, ʻo Tim wale nō ke ʻano ikaika loa a manaʻo wau ua kūkulu mākou i kahi spider maikaʻi loa akā nalo ʻoe iā Tim Curry i kēlā hope 20 minuke. A no laila, ke manaʻo nei au i ka manawa a lākou e ʻeha ai i kēia spider a ʻauwana ʻo ia, i ka wā i alualu ai lākou iā ia i lalo inā ua hoʻihoʻi ʻia ʻo ia i Pennywise i kēlā manawa, a laila ua pepehi lākou iā ia. Manaʻo wau he hopena ʻoi aku ka ʻoluʻolu, akā ʻaʻole wau i manaʻo e hoʻokuʻu ʻia ke kīwī i ka makahiki 1990 i ʻekolu a ʻehā paha poʻe mākua e paʻi i ke ʻano o kahi clown ma TV a haehae i kona puʻuwai.

ʻO nā mea a pau a mākou i hana ai ma ia hōʻike ua hoʻopaʻa ʻia ma ke ʻano e like me ke poʻo i ʻoki ʻia i loko o ka friji, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke kau i ka ʻiʻo. No laila, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu ua ʻae ka poʻe censors iā mākou. Eia hou, ʻo ia ka TV 1990s. ʻO ia ka mea i nīnau mai ka poʻe iaʻu e pili ana i ka mea hou a he kiʻiʻoniʻoni R-rated ma 2017. ʻIke ʻoe? ʻAe, ʻaʻole lākou i hana ma lalo o nā palena like me mākou.

BS: ʻOiai e ʻōlelo wau mai koʻu hiʻohiʻona, makemake wau i ke ʻano o ke kumu no ka mea he ʻoi aku ka ʻino o ia mea, a ʻano ʻoi aku ka ʻoiaʻiʻo. Ke noʻonoʻo nei au inā loaʻa iā ʻoe kekahi mau manaʻo e pili ana i ka nānā prosthetic no ka mea hou IT Kino.

WB: Manaʻo wau he maikaʻi loa ka hana ma laila. He manaʻo ʻokoʻa. Manaʻo wau he ʻano ʻakaʻaka, hana wau Nā kāne ma Black 3 me Jemaine Clement. Ua hana au i kāna hana hoʻonaninani ʻo Boris the Animal no Rick Baker, no laila, he mau hoaaloha māua ʻo Jemaine. No laila i ko lākou hōʻike ʻana i ke kiʻi mua mai ka mea hou IT, ua like ʻo ia "Ua ʻike anei ʻoe i ka hiʻohiʻona Pennywise hou? Ua kope wale lākou i kāu." A ua like wau, ʻoiai, aia nā mea like ʻole no ka mea he clown. A ʻo koʻu manaʻo, ʻoi aku ka ʻulaʻula o kona lauoho a ʻo koʻu kēlā ʻano ʻulaʻula bozo. 

Mai kahi moʻolelo wale nō, inā loaʻa iaʻu nā pilikia me ka make-up, he hoʻopunipuni kēia āna e manaʻo nei e hoʻowalewale i nā keiki i ka mea hou. IT. Manaʻo wau he mea hoʻonaninani maikaʻi a manaʻo wau he mea maikaʻi loa ia, akā ʻaʻohe ala i loko o Gehena e hele mai ai kahi keiki i loko o hoʻokahi mile mai kēlā Pennywise, weliweli loa ʻo ia, ma waho o ka puka. A ʻo kaʻu, ke hoʻāʻo nei au e hoʻohālike ia me he clown pōʻino ʻole a laila hoʻokuʻu i ka hana a Tim Curry e hoʻonui iā ia. 

ʻO kekahi o nā mea aʻu i makemake ai e hana ʻaʻole māua ʻo Tommy i ʻike maka, i ka ʻike ʻana o nā keiki iā ia ʻo ia ka Pennywise a mākou i ʻike ai a aloha ai, akā i ka ʻike ʻana o nā mākua iā ia, he caricature weliweli loa ia. o kela. No laila he mea hou aʻe ia me ka Pennywise hou me nā māwae a pau. He popopo a me nā mea like. Me he mea lā ke nānā aku i ke ʻano o ka ʻakika ʻakika akā ua pau nā mea a pau, no ka mea, ʻo ka moʻolelo wale nō i kēlā manawa, ʻike ka poʻe mākua ʻaʻole ʻo ia he clown, a maopopo iā lākou ʻaʻole ia he clown. No laila, ʻaʻohe kumu maoli o ka mālama ʻana i ka hoʻopunipuni. A ma ke ʻano he caricature kokoke i zombie-fied o ka clown. ʻAʻole ʻike ʻo Tommy pēlā. 

Manaʻo wau ma kahi hapa paha, ʻaʻole makemake ʻo Tim e ʻaʻahu i ka nui o ka make-up. No laila ua pono ia i ka helu kūpono o ka papa kuhikuhi o kona noho ʻana i kahi ʻoi aku ke kaumaha. ʻAʻole ia he mea ʻino. Akā, ʻoi aku ka makaʻu a ʻoi aku ka weliweli o ka mea hou, ʻo ia kaʻu e hoʻāʻo nei e lawe no nā pākeke, ʻike ʻoe, no laila ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hoʻohewa iā lākou no kēlā. Manaʻo wale wau i nā hiʻohiʻona i ka wā e hana ai ʻo ia me nā keiki, he makaʻu wale ʻo ia.

BS: He manaʻo maikaʻi kēlā. ʻAʻole wau i noʻonoʻo pēlā. Loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi kiʻi hana Pennywise punahele?

WB: Hiki i nā mea a pau. Manaʻo wau ua puka mai lākou me ʻelua o kēia.

BS: ʻOiaʻiʻo, maikaʻi kēlā.

WB: Ua kali au i 30 mau makahiki no lākou e puka mai me nā mea kūʻai a me nā pālule Pennywise. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, hele wau i Walmart i kēia manawa a loaʻa iā lākou nā pālule Pennywise.

BS: Manaʻo paha ʻoe i kēia mau lā ua ʻoi aku ka poʻe i ka classic IT ma mua o ko lākou wā i puka mai ai?

WB: Me he mea lā. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, he pā nui ia. Eia hou, ʻaʻole au i ʻike i ke kālepa a me nā mea like. A eia hou, manaʻo wau i ka hoʻokuʻu ʻia ʻana o ka kiʻiʻoniʻoni 2017 i kā lākou kūʻai ʻana i kēlā mana, manaʻo wau ua like lākou, e hoʻopau mākou i ka lepo kahiko a hana i nā mea mai ia mea. Akā ʻoluʻolu ke hele wale i loko o nā hale kūʻai a i ʻole nā ​​ʻaha kūkā a me nā mea ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi loa i ka wā i puka mai ai ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni i ka makahiki 1990. Hele wau i kahi hale kūʻai puke a ua hoʻopuka hou lākou. IT a me ka pepa pepa me kaʻu makeup Tim Curry ma ka uhi. ʻO kēia pā nui wale nō o kaʻu mea hoʻonaninani.

BS: E ʻōlelo paha ʻoe ʻo Pennywise ka mea maikaʻi loa a i ʻole kāu mea punahele āu i hana ai? A i ʻole he hopena koʻikoʻi punahele āu i hana ai i kāu ʻoihana?

WB: ʻAe, i ka noʻonoʻo ʻana, ua hana wau i nā mea ʻoluʻolu he nui. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, ʻo Pennywise ʻoiaʻiʻo o nā mea aʻu i hoʻolālā pilikino a hana ai, ʻaʻole mālama ʻia. Akā, ua hana au ma ke kumu ʻO Robocop, Ua hana au ma nā Guillermo del Toro ʻelua Hellboys. ʻO wau ka mea makemake nui Marvel comics, no laila ua hana wau iā Paul Bettany no Kanawai War a ʻO ke kaua pauʻole. A ua hana wale au kahu 3, a ua hana au i ka makeup o Christian Bale no kekahi mau lā o ka hou Thor kiʻiʻoniʻoni no ke kiʻi hou ʻana. Pono wau e kōkua me Nebula no ka mea hou Thor, Michael Chiklis ma ka ʻEhā Lauka nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni no laila ua hoʻomaka ka mea pā i loko oʻu e hana i nā hōʻike ʻano papa inoa bakeke maikaʻi loa.

BS: Makemake wau i kou manaʻo i ka manawa ma waena o ka hoʻomaka ʻana o nā hopena kūikawā kūpono e lilo i mea liʻiliʻi ma nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni a hoʻomaka ka poʻe e neʻe hou aku i ka CGI. Ua manaʻo paha ʻoe i kēlā?

WB: ʻAe, ʻo wau, mahalo, ʻaʻole wau i hana i ka hana hoʻomaha. Manaʻo wau inā he animator wau, ua manaʻo maoli wau. I ka hoʻomaka ʻana, he kuʻi ʻōpū wale nō ia, e kuʻu akua, pau kā mākou hana. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ua manaʻo nā kāne hoʻomaha a me nā poʻe animatronic. 

In Men in Black 3, ʻO Ken Ralston ka luna hoʻomalu ʻike maka e hana pū ana me Rick Baker. No laila ʻo ia kekahi o nā manawa liʻiliʻi kahi i hoʻāʻo ʻole ai ka digital e hoʻopololei i nā mea hana. Ua hana pū lāua me ka lima a no laila e like ana ʻo Rick, “ʻAe, e kūkulu wau i kēia malihini e like me ka iʻa gula, akā ʻaʻole mākou e kau i nā maka i loko. Inā hōʻike ʻo Barry i ka lōʻihi e pono ai ke kukuli ʻana a laila hiki iā ʻoe ke hana i ka blink digitally, "a ʻo Ken ka maikaʻi. No laila he hui maikaʻi. A manaʻo wau ʻo ka maikaʻi o kēia ʻano mea ke loaʻa iā ʻoe ʻelua. Aia ke ʻano faun i loko Pan's Labyrinth a ʻo ka Pale Man, he mau mea hoʻonaninani maikaʻi ia akā aia nā mea kikohoʻe e like me ka lawe ʻana i nā wāwae i waho a i ʻole e hoʻomaʻemaʻe iki a i ʻole. ʻO ka mea pōʻino, ʻoi aku hoʻi i ka hoʻomaka ʻana, ke hoʻolei wale nei nā mea a pau i ke kālā a pau i ka digital. A no laila e loaʻa iā ʻoe nā hōʻike he nui i loaʻa nā hopena digital shitty.

BS: No ke aha ʻoe e makemake ai e hana i kahi mea e ʻoi aku ka nui o ke kālā i ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ma mua o ka wā ma mua?

WB: Hoʻokahi mea aʻu makemake ʻole e pili ana i nā mea kikohoʻe, ʻaʻole pono nā kānaka e hoʻohiki. Ua hoʻolālā ʻoe i ka mea like āu i pana ai, no laila pono ʻoe e hoʻoholo, a pono ʻoe e hoʻokō i kekahi mea a me ka hopena makeup pono ʻoe e hana i kahi hoʻolālā a kūkulu ʻia i hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa ia ma ka hoʻonohonoho. I kēia manawa me nā mea kikohoʻe. Ua loaʻa iā ʻoe ke kanaka i loko o ka pajama motion capture, a laila hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻololi pinepine i ka hoʻolālā a hiki i ka pau ʻana o ka manawa a loaʻa nā mea i ka hale keaka. 

I ka'u hana ana Kanawai War, ke hana nei mākou i ke kaua mokulele. A ʻo ia ka manawa mua aʻu i ʻike ai i ka MCU Spider Man. He ʻokoʻa loa ka lole ma mua o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni. ʻO ka mea like me ka Black Panther, manaʻo wau ua like kona lole, akā ʻo ka stunt double a lākou i ʻaʻahu ai he ʻokoʻa loa ia ma mua o Chadwick. No laila, ua hoʻololi piha ʻia kēlā mau mea ʻelua i ke kikohoʻe i kēlā kaʻina hope a ʻaʻole pono lākou e hana i ka lole Spider Man maikaʻi loa ma mua o kā mākou kiʻi ʻana, no ka mea, e loaʻa iā mākou hoʻokahi makahiki o ka pou a e hele ana mākou. e hoololi. Aia nā mea kupaianaha hiki iā ʻoe ke hana me ia. Aia nā mea hiki ʻole iā ʻoe ke hana maʻamau a hoʻokuʻu paha iā ʻoe. A manaʻo wau ʻo ia wale nō ka nani o ke alakaʻi. 

E like me kā Guillermo del Toro makemake. Ua hele mai ʻo ia mai kahi ʻaoʻao hopena make-up no laila makemake ʻo ia e ʻike i nā hana, ʻoiai he nui kāna mau mea kikohoʻe ʻoluʻolu i ka hōʻike, ʻoiai, ma ka liʻiliʻi loa ua loaʻa iā ia kahi kaulike maikaʻi. Ke hana nei ʻoe i nā malihini a me nā monsters, ʻike maopopo nā mea kikohoʻe e hāʻawi i nā mea, pono anatomically hiki iā ʻoe ke hana i nā mea hiki ʻole iā ʻoe ke hana me ke poʻo kanaka, akā ke hana nei ʻoe i nā kiʻi a me nā makahiki makeups a me nā mea like, inā ʻoe ' Ua loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi mea keaka makemake e hana, e like me Gary Oldman i loko ʻO ka hola pōʻeleʻele, a laila hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa i kekahi mau mea kupanaha maoli. No laila aia kekahi mau hana nui e hana ʻia nei.

BS: Ua ʻike maoli au i nā makahiki he 10 i hala a i ʻole, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka hoihoi hou ʻana i nā hopena kūpono mai ka manaʻo nostalgia. Ua ʻike paha ʻoe i nā mea hana kiʻi kūikawā hou āu e manaʻo ai he mea kupanaha loa i kēia mau lā? 

WB: He mea kupanaha ka nui o nā poʻe o ka honua e hana nei. E like me kaʻu i ʻike ai i ka mea hou ʻO Elvis ʻO ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni a ʻo Tom Hanks, ʻo Colonel Parker makeup he nani loa. ʻO Kazu kaʻu i hana ai me ka hoʻi ʻana ʻO Grinch. Ua hana 'o ia ʻO ka hola pōʻeleʻele a Bombshell. Ua hana au me Arjen Tuiten nāna i hana kahaha no, ua hana 'o ia ʻO Maleficent. Ua hana ʻo ia i ka mea hou Ghostbusters. Vincent Van Dyke, hana ʻo ia i nā mea kupanaha. Aia ʻo Mike Marino ma ke kahakai hikina. Ua hana ʻo ia i ka mea hou E hiki mai ana 2 ʻAmelika mai kekahi mau makahiki aku nei. Ua hana ʻē wau Pāpuna maikaʻi ʻole me Steve Prody a loaʻa iā ia kahi koho Oscar no kēlā. A eia hou, ʻaʻole ia he pāʻani kāne wale nō. Nui nā wāhine akamai e hana nei. 

Nui nā hanauna maikaʻi e hiki mai ana. ʻO ka hapa nui o koʻu mau hoa i hoʻomaha a nānā paha i ka hoʻomaha. Ua ʻai wale au me Rick Baker i kēia lā a ua hoʻomaha ʻo ia ma kahi o ʻewalu mau makahiki i kēia manawa a no laila, hauʻoli ka ʻike ʻana aia kēia mau nalu o ka poʻe e piʻi mai ana ma hope oʻu e hoʻomau. 

BS: Loaʻa iā ʻoe nā papahana hou e hauʻoli nei ʻoe? 

WB: ʻAe, ʻaʻole wale wau i hana Nā kiaʻi o ka Galaxy 3, akā, ʻo ka hoʻomaha kūikawā e puka ana i ka wā Kalikimaka. Ua hana wale au i ka mea hou Hale Malu ʻunthihi ʻO ka hana a Disney, aʻu i manaʻo ai he nani loa. Aia kekahi mea ʻo Jeffrey Dahmer i kapa ʻia e Ryan Murphy ano e oia i hana iki au. E puka ana ma mua o ka hopena o ka makahiki. Ua hana ʻē wau ʻO Obi-Wan Kenobi, akā ua pau kēlā a ua hana au i ka mea hou Thor, akā ua pau kēlā i kēia manawa.

BS: He aha kāu mau hopena kūikawā e hana ai āu i hana ʻole ai?

WB: Manaʻolana ma mua o koʻu kau ʻana i luna, makemake wau e hana e like me ka Mole Man a i ʻole kekahi mea no ka ʻEhā Lauka. A i ʻole inā hoʻomaka ʻo DC e hana Na Akua Hou, Makemake au e hana i kahi makeup Darkseid pololei ʻo Jack Kirby.

ʻAʻole like me ka monster. ʻAe, ʻaʻole wau i hana i kahi kanaka gill. Inā hiki iaʻu ke hana pēlā. Ua hana au ma nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni Freddy. ʻAʻole au i hana i kekahi Friday ka 13th. ʻAʻole wau he kanaka nui ʻo Jason, akā ua hana wau i kaʻu hōʻike o Rob Zombie mea a me nā mea ʻē aʻe. Ua loaʻa iaʻu kahi ʻoihana maikaʻi, ʻokoʻa.

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Ke hana mau nei ʻo Mixon ma FX makeup no ka hoʻomau maikaʻi ʻana o kāna hoʻoilina i nā makahiki he mau makahiki a pehea i loli ai ka make-up. Me he mea lā ʻaʻole ʻo ia e kū koke ana. Inā makemake ʻoe e lohe hou aku e pili ana i kāna kaʻina hana a hana ma Pennywise mai ka makahiki 1990 IT, e malama i kou mau maka no Pennywise: Ka moʻolelo o IT.