Ke minoʻaka mau nei: He kamaʻilio me ka Ghastly Grinner mai 'makaʻu ʻoe i ka pouli?'

Na John Campopiano 

I nā makahiki i hala aku nei, ua hana wau i kahi hana nui e alualu ai i nā mea hana keaka a me nā mea kākau ma hope o kekahi o nā moʻo nui hewahewa ʻole o kaʻu kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e nānā ana i ka wā kamaliʻi.

ʻO ia paha kahi kamaliʻi weliweli ma hope o Gage Creed mai Mary Lambert's PET SEMATARY a i ʻole ke kolohe, intergalactic shapeshifter, ʻo Pennywise ka Clown, mai kā Stephen King IT-kū ʻana i ke kanaka maoli a maoli kanaka ma hope o kēia mau huapalapala kahi ʻano cathartic, haʻuki kiʻi ʻoniʻoni noʻu.

Ke kūʻē nei wau i nā poʻe i hauʻoli a makaʻu iaʻu i koʻu wā ʻōpio. 

I kēia mau lā, ua alualu wau i lalo ʻO Neil Kroetsch, Ke kahua Kanada, kīwī, kīwī, a me nā mea hana leo i hoʻokani i nā ʻO Grhner Ghastly i ka moʻoukala 1994 o ka papahana Nickelodeon kaulana, makaʻu ʻoe i ka pouli? me ke poʻo inoa, "The Tale of the Ghastly Grinner."

ʻO nā moʻolelo e pili ana iā Ethan Wood, kahi mea pāheona puke a me ka mea pena kiʻi nui, nāna i hoʻokuʻu wale i ka Ghastly Grinner — kahi kolohe mai kahi puke mele kākaʻikahi e loaʻa ka hiki ke hoʻolilo i ka poʻe i mea ʻakaʻaka, a hoʻokuʻu i nā zombies. He aha ka mea aloha ʻole? 

Ma lalo kā mākou kamaʻilio e pili ana Makau anei ʻoe i ka pouli? kāna hana kaulana ma ke ʻano he Ghastly Grinner, a no ke aha i manaʻo ai ʻo ia e hoʻopiʻi nā moʻolelo weliweli i nā poʻe ʻōpio. Ua hoʻoponopono ʻia ka nīnauele a hoʻonui ʻia no ka maopopo.

ʻO John Campopiano no iHorror.com: Aloha, Neil. Mahalo no ke kamaʻilio pū ʻana me mākou e pili ana i kēia mea weliweli weliweli mai ka hōʻike 90s aloha, Ke makaʻu nei ʻoe i ka pouli? ʻO ka mea mua, pehea ʻoe i pae ai i ke kuleana o ka Ghastly Grinner? 

Neil Kroetsch: ʻOluʻolu! ʻĀ, he wahi liʻiliʻi ʻelua paha kaʻu ma ke ʻano ʻē aʻe o ka makaʻu i ka pouli? ma kahi o hoʻokahi makahiki a me ka hapa ma mua — ʻo 2 a 3 paha laina, ʻoiaʻiʻo. Ua hoʻi au i ka home ma hope a noʻonoʻo ʻole i kekahi mea ʻē aʻe iā ia.

I kekahi lā ua kāhea ka luna hoʻokele mai kēlā ʻāpana iaʻu a ʻōlelo mai, "He mea kā mākou a manaʻo wau e maikaʻi paha ʻoe no ia mea."

Ua hoʻomanaʻo ʻo ia iaʻu mai kēlā ʻāpana a makemake e lawe iaʻu i loko e heluhelu no ka Ghastly Grinner. Ua ʻōlelo ʻoiaʻiʻo, e ʻike wau! Ua lawe mai lākou iaʻu i loko no ka loiloi a ua kamaʻilio mākou e pili ana i ka ʻāpana. Ma mua o koʻu hoʻomaka ʻana e heluhelu no lākou ua ʻōlelo wau, "Inā makemake ʻoe iaʻu e kani i lalo e haʻi wale mai iaʻu."

Ke hele mai ʻoe mai ka hale keaka ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi, ʻike ʻoe? Ua haʻi wau iā lākou e hoʻāʻo ana wau ma luna o ka luna. Ua like ia me kēlā ʻōlelo kahiko: go big or go home. ʻLelo lākou, “Auē, ʻo ia pono ka mea e pono ai kēia ʻano. ” Pololei lākou.

 

JC: Pehea ke koena o ka hōʻike loiloi? Ua hilinaʻi paha ʻoe e pili ana i kāu manawa i pau ai?

NK: No ka loiloi, ua lawe mai lākou i ka luna, nā mea hana, a me ka luna kōkua. Pāʻani mākou a puni me ia a hoʻomanaʻo wau i ka hana ʻana i ke ʻano Ghastly Grinner i kekahi mau manawa a ma nā ʻano like ʻole.

ʻAʻole wau e hoʻomanaʻo i ke ʻano kikoʻī a lākou i heluhelu ai iaʻu, akā manaʻo wau ʻo ke keikikāne alakaʻi ʻo Ethan Wood (hoʻokani ʻia e Amos Crawley) ke kiʻi nei i kāna puke moʻolelo a makaʻu hoʻi i koʻu kū ʻana a ʻōlelo i kekahi mea e like me, "He aha ka mea, keiki ?! Ua loaʻa i kāu pōpoki kou alelo! Hahaha! ”

ʻO Ianuali ka loiloi ʻana a pinepine i ka wā hoʻomaha ua makemake mākou āpau e ʻai nui a inu. Ua ʻōlelo iki kahi mea hana, "ʻĀ, e haʻohaʻo ana wau e pili ana i nā ʻōpū o ka ʻōpū o ka mea hoʻokūkū i nā ʻūlili ..." a ua ʻōlelo wau, "Auwe hopohopo, e nalo ana kēlā. E lilo ana kēlā iaʻu. ” Ua ʻakaʻaka mākou a pau e pili ana i kēlā! [ʻAkaʻaka] 

 

JC: I kāna kamaʻilio ʻana no kāna mau laina, ʻaʻole nui ka Ghastly Grinner i ka hopena. ʻO ka puʻuwai o ka hana e like me ke ʻano kino āu i lawe mai ai iā ia.

NK: Pololei kēlā. ʻAʻole wau i hana keaka i nā makahiki he nui i kēia manawa, akā ua hana nui wau i ka hale keaka i ka wā ma mua. Makemake au i ka hale keaka kino. No laila, hauʻoli wau i ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e kamaʻilio i ka poʻe hoʻolohe me nā huaʻōlelo e like me ka hiki ke hiki ma ke kahua. Manaʻo wau ua hana maikaʻi loa kēlā ʻano me kēia ʻano kanaka i hiki ke lilo i ke koi me kāna mau neʻe.

ʻO ka weliweli — a loaʻa iaʻu kekahi mau manawa kēia mau ʻōlelo mai ka poʻe kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a kīwī - ʻo “Tone it down. E ʻoluʻolu e kani i lalo. ” No ka mea i kekahi manawa hiki i kēlā ʻano nui loa ke lilo ma luna o ka luna. Akā no ke ʻano Ghastly Grinner, ʻo ia me kēia nui he aha ka mea i koi ʻia.

 

JC: ʻO kā Ghastly Grinner ʻakaʻaka kekahi o nā mea hōʻailona o ke ʻano a me ka ʻāpana holoʻokoʻa. Pehea ʻoe i ʻike ai i kona leo?

ʻO ka mea aʻu i makemake ai no ke ʻaka ke kani kūlohelohe e like me ka hiki, ʻo ka mea maʻalahi maʻalahi ke hāʻawi ʻia iaʻu i ka leʻaleʻa i ka pāʻani ʻana. ʻOi aku i nā hiʻohiʻona ke makaʻu nei wau i ke keiki no ka mea ʻike wau e hana pū ana wau me ia me ka kunou a me ka wink, ʻike ʻoe?

Hāʻawi ʻia i ka ʻuhane o kēlā hōʻike, ʻaʻole wau he monster maoli i ka manaʻo weliweli kūlohelohe. Ma ka laulā, hauʻoli nui wau i ka hana leo a ua hana wau i nā mea he nui, ʻo ia ka haʻi moʻolelo a dubbing a i ʻole nā ​​kiʻi paʻi kiʻi. Nui ka leʻaleʻa.

JC: ʻO ka manawa pinepine o nā mea pāʻani e pāʻani nei i nā villain me ka manaʻo ʻole e mālama i ko lākou mamao mai kā lākou keiki mea hana keaka me nā hōkū i mea no nā manawa weliweli e ʻoi aku ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ma kā kāmela. He aha kēlā ʻāpana o ka ʻike e pili ana iā ʻoe ma "The Tale of the Ghastly Grinner"?

NK: Pololei loa kēlā mau mea hana keaka. Hana wau i ka mea like ma aneʻi. Manaʻo wau ʻo WC Fields i ʻōlelo, "Mai hana pū me nā keiki a i ʻole nā ​​holoholona" no ka mea nui ka ʻike ʻole ʻia, maopopo iā ʻoe? Naʻu, he pana leʻaleʻa maoli nō ia a ke keiki ʻōpio aʻu e hana pū nei, ʻo Amos Crawley, maikaʻi. ʻAʻole ʻo ia capricious a koi paha.

Leʻaleʻa ʻo ia e hana pū. Ke kānalua nei wau i ka lilo ʻana o ka hoaaloha me kahi keiki keaka ke pāʻani wau i ka villain no ka mea i kekahi manawa aia kahi laina psychological ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou keʻaʻa. Me he mea lā, "Wow, ʻoluʻolu ʻoe iaʻu i ka wā o ka ʻaina awakea a ʻinoʻino loa ʻoe."

No laila, manaʻo wau he naʻaupō ka mālama ʻana i kahi mamao. He mahalo ʻiʻo nō ia. E kamaʻilio iki mākou ma ka hoʻonohonoho me nā keiki ʻē aʻe e pili ana i nā ʻāpana ʻē aʻe o ke kaʻina a mākou i ʻike ai. Akā ke pau ke kī ʻana hiki iā mākou ke hoʻolei i ka pôpeku a i ʻole he aha — akā ʻaʻole naʻe ʻoiai mākou e hana nei.

 

JC: Ua hoʻolōʻihi ʻoe i ka manawa me ADR (post-production) e hoʻopaʻa leo hou i nā ʻakaʻaka Ghastly Grinner?

NK: ʻOiaʻiʻo, ua ʻohiʻohi ʻia nā leo ʻakaʻaka i live on set. Hana pinepine mākou i mau i mau manawa. ʻAʻole wau i noʻonoʻo e hana ʻelima, ʻeono, ʻehiku mau hana. No laila, ʻaʻohe ADR-ʻaʻole au i hele i loko o ka hale hōʻikeʻike ma hope o ke kī ʻana e hoʻopaʻa hou.

 

JC: I ka noiʻi ʻana iā ʻoe a me ka hopena ua ʻike wau i kekahi o kāu mau poʻo poʻo ʻoihana. Kupaianaha ka loli āu i lilo ai i Ghastly Grinner, ʻaʻohe like i waena o ʻoe a me ka Grinner.

NK: He hana lōʻihi ia, akā maikaʻi loa ke kime iā ia. ʻO kaʻu hana wale nō e hoʻomaha. Ua hele wau ma nā wana ʻē aʻe kahi i pili ai lākou i nā prosthetics i hiki ke hoʻopili i kou hanu ʻana a ʻoi aku ka lōʻihi o ka noi ʻana. Akā me ka Ghastly Grinner, ka hapanui kaumaha a me nā lole. ʻO kahi hoʻolālā lole nani loa.

Ke noho ʻoe i lalo i ka noho, lawe ʻoe i kāu ʻano ponoʻī i ke ʻano. Akā ke noho nei ʻoe ma mua o kahi aniani a ke nānā nei ʻoe i kou helehelena e hoʻomaka e hoʻololi: nā kala, nā laina, nā hiʻohiʻona, hoʻomaka ia e hāʻawi iā ʻoe i nā manaʻo. Noʻu, ua noʻonoʻo wau iaʻu iho, "Auē, like ʻo ia me kēia ikaika o ka honua mai kahi wahi ʻē aʻe me ka ikaika a me ka ikaika e hoʻokokoke ai i nā mea āpau ..." a hoʻomaka koke ʻoe e ʻike i ke ʻano ke hana ka makeup i helehelena hou nāu.

 

JC: He aha ka pane i ke ʻano Ghastly Grinner i like me nā makahiki i hala aku nei?

NK: Kahaha nui wau i ka pane. Ma kahi o ʻeono mau makahiki i hala aku nei ua kākau mai kahi mau kāne ʻōpio ʻelua ma New Hampshire iaʻu e noi ana i kiʻi, e ʻōlelo ana he aha ka manaʻo nui i hōʻike ʻia iā lākou ma ke ʻano kamaliʻi. He uku no kahi mea hana ke loaʻa kēlā ʻano pane, keu hoʻi no kahi mea kākoʻo e like me aʻu iho ʻaʻole e hoʻokani pinepine i nā alakaʻi alakaʻi. Maʻaneʻi i loaʻa iaʻu ka manawa kūpono e lilo i alakaʻi alakaʻi, akā no laila e ʻike pū i ka nui o ka poʻe i pā. ʻIke wau i kēlā uku maikaʻi loa. Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole ʻike kekahi o mākou i kēia manawa - no ka mea leʻaleʻa mākou a kau nui i ka hana ʻana i kahi hana maikaʻi - akā manaʻo wau ua hana mākou i kahi mea hoʻokalakupua. ʻO Bob Brewster, koʻu hoa hana o kēia ʻāpana nāna i hoʻokani ka makuakāne o Amos Crawley, ʻo John Wood, i haʻi mai iaʻu i kekahi manawa ma hope o kēia ʻāpana kahi punahele punahele loa o nā moʻo holoʻokoʻa. 

JC: Ke kamaʻilio nei mai ka ʻike, aia kekahi mea pīhoihoi e pili ana i ka makaʻu i kou wā kamaliʻi. I ka makahiki 1980 a me ka 1990, ua nui ka waiwai o nā ʻike spooky (kiʻiʻoniʻoni, kīwī, nā puke) i hana kikoʻī ʻia no ka poʻe hoʻolohe hou. No ke aha i kou manaʻo e makemake kekahi mau keiki i nā moʻo nui a me nā mea e hele i ka pō i ka pō?

NK: Ua haʻi mai iaʻu kekahi o nā mea hana keaka mai ka ʻāpana Ghastly Grinner i kāna keiki nāna, i ka manawa a mākou i hōʻike ai i ka hōʻike, he 7 a 8 mau makahiki paha, he kope o ka "The Tale of the Ghastly Grinner" a e nānā iā ia me kona mau hoaaloha. Ke hōʻike mua ʻia koʻu ʻano e hoʻomaha lākou a hūnā ma hope o ka moe. Akā a laila e hoʻi hou lākou i kēlā wahi a pāʻani hou a mau! Manaʻo wau no kekahi mau keiki o ia mau makahiki, ʻoiai lākou i kahi ʻano kūkulu, makemake lākou e makaʻu no ka mea hiki iā lākou ke kaohi a laila pane iā ia. Me he mea lā ke haʻi aku ʻoe i ka moʻolelo o Little Red Riding Hood i kahi keiki a heluhelu i kēlā ʻāpana, "Hele kokoke mai, e ke keiki ... a ahhh!" ʻalalā a ʻakaʻaka paha lākou akā aneane pinepine lākou e ʻōlelo, “Hana hou! Heluhelu hou ia! ” no ka mea i kēlā makahiki ko lākou make wai no ka hana hou ʻana i nā mea a lākou e makemake ai he pau ʻole - makemake lākou e makaʻu pinepine. 

 

JC: Nui nā paepae kahe he nui, e like me Shudder, Netflix, Amazon, etc. ua ʻae i ka poʻe e ʻike hou i nā hōʻike a me nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a lākou i ulu ai. He aha kou mau manaʻo e pili ana i ka hoʻoilina o "The Tale of the Ghastly Grinner" a makaʻu ʻoe i ka pouli?

NK: Hauʻoli wau i ka hana lima ʻana iā ia iho — ka wikiō, a i ʻole ka moʻolelo wale nō - e ola nei. ʻAʻole like ia me nā lā kahiko o ke kīwī ke hana kekahi mea i kahi manawa paʻa a inā ʻoe i hopu, maikaʻi, inā ʻaʻole maikaʻi loa.

I kēia manawa me YouTube a me kēia mau paepae ʻē aʻe a pau, ola kēia mau mea a hiki i ka poʻe ke hoʻi a nānā hou iā lākou. I nā ʻōlelo o ka ʻāpana Ghastly Grinner, like ia, OK, hiki ke ola i kahi puke puke hoʻomākeʻaka? Inā ʻoe e kākau i kēlā i lalo ma ke ʻano he laina hoʻokahi a hoʻāʻo e kau iā ia i kahi mea hana e ʻōlelo ʻaneʻane lākou, "Nah, ʻaʻole wau e noʻonoʻo pēlā."

Akā ua hana kēia no ka mea he kala ia, he kākau kākau maikaʻi kāna, a he kolohe i ola mai kahi puke mele a hiki ke hoʻoweliweli iā ʻoe. Manaʻo wau ua maikaʻi nā waiwai hana no ke au a ua holo pono ka hoʻohana ʻana o ka moemoeā.

ʻO nā mea kākau ma He makaʻu ʻoe i ka pouli? e like me DJ MacHale, Ron Oliver, a me nā mea ʻē aʻe, i ʻike nui i ka noʻonoʻo o nā keiki. ʻO nā makahiki 7 a 12, keu, ke hoʻomaka nei ʻoe e hele i ka wā ʻōpio a lilo i ʻike nui o ka honua makua. Hoʻomaka mālie ʻoe e lawe i nā kuleana hou aʻe akā hoʻi — a he aha ka mea hilahila e pili ana i kēlā wā o ke ola - ua lilo ʻoe i mea makaʻala i ke kū ʻana i ka nohona: Pehea wau e hoʻokolokolo ʻia ai e kaʻu mau hoa? Kūpono wau i loko? ʻIke wau i ka hopohopo, kūpilikiʻi. A manaʻo wau ua mālama maikaʻi nā mea kākau ma ka hōʻike. ʻO lākou nā huapalapala hiki iā ʻoe ke pili.

ʻO nā mea aʻu i makemake ai e pili ana i ke kaʻina (ʻo ka hana ʻana i hoʻokahi mahele ma mua o ka hopena Grinner) pehea ka pīhoihoi o nā keiki hana keaka i hoʻonohonoho ʻia. ʻAkahi wale nō mau makahiki i hala aku nei ʻaʻole au i nānā i ka hanana. ʻAʻole ia he mea e hana mau ai wau - hoʻi a nānā i kaʻu mau hana. ʻAʻole ia he ʻāpana o koʻu ʻano.

Akā ma hope o ka hoʻomaka ʻana e kiʻi i nā leka mai ka poʻe pā e pili ana i ka hana Ghastly Grinner makemake wau e hoʻi a ʻike inā loaʻa iaʻu ka ʻāpana i kaʻu demo demo. ʻOiaʻiʻo nō, ua hana wau, no laila ua nānā wau iā ia. Ua maopopo iaʻu no ke aha i makemake ai nā keiki iā ia, ʻo ia hoʻi ka wahi wehe kahi lākou e noho ana a puni ke ahi hoʻomoana a i kēlā me kēia pule haʻi lākou i kahi moʻolelo ʻokoʻa. Aia i loko o kēlā kaiāulu o ka poʻe ʻōpio kahi e manaʻo ai lākou e noʻonoʻo nui ʻia a e hoʻolohe ana paha nā mākua. Hōʻike kēlā hōʻike i ka mahalo i ka manaʻo o nā keiki i kēlā makahiki. Manaʻo wau ua hoʻopiʻi ʻia i ka poʻe ʻōpio pū kekahi.

 

JC: Ma hope o kēia mau makahiki, pūʻiwa paha ʻoe i ka hoʻomanaʻo o ka poʻe a kamaʻilio e pili ana i ke ʻano Ghastly Grinner?

NK: ʻAʻole mākou i hele i ka hana o "The Tale of the Ghastly Grinner" e noʻonoʻo nei, "E hana mākou i kahi mea hoʻomanaʻo" a "E hoʻokalakupua kēia." ʻAʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻolālā no ka hoʻokalakupua, hiki wale nō. Me he mea lā ke ʻike ʻoe i nā sitcoms ma ke kīwī e hoʻāʻo e hoʻokumu i kahi hopuna ʻōlelo no ke ʻano. ʻAʻole holo ka manawa pinepine - lilo wale i mea hoʻonāukiuki. ʻAneʻane hiki ʻole ke wānana i ka mea e pili ana me nā mea hoʻolohe a me nā mea ʻole. ʻO kahi laʻana, aia wau i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i kapa ʻia, GRAY OWL (1999) i alakaʻi ʻia e Sir. ʻO Richard Attenborough, a me ka hōkū ʻo Pierce Brosnan. Ma ke ʻano he mea hana keaka, ʻike ʻoe, auwē, inā hiki iaʻu ke hana i kahi hana maikaʻi ma kēia, e hoʻomaka ke kani o ke kelepona a loaʻa iaʻu kahi hana hou ke hoʻokuʻu ʻia. Akā, ʻo ka mea i hana, ʻaʻole i lawe ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. ʻAʻole ia i hāpai ʻia e kahi mea hāʻawi ʻAmelika, i ka ʻoihana ʻoniʻoni, ʻo ia ka honi o ka make.

ʻO ka mea hope loa, manaʻo wau e iho mau i ka moʻolelo a pehea ʻoe e haʻi ai, ʻo ia ka mea e kani hou ai me ka poʻe. Hoʻomaopopo wau i ka heluhelu ʻana e pili ana i ka 1960-wrestler-turn-mea hana keaka, ʻo Lino Ventura, a i ka manawa i nīnau aku ai kahi mea kākau moʻolelo iā ia, "He aha ka meaʻai no kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni maikaʻi a i kahi ʻāpana keaka maikaʻi?" ʻ saidlelo ʻo Lino, "ʻEkolu mau mea: ka moʻolelo, ka moʻolelo, ka moʻolelo." A he ʻoiaʻiʻo! ʻO ka mea aʻu e makemake ai a me ka mea nui e pili ana i ka The Ghastly Grinner episode ʻo ia ka mea āpau o nā mea āpau, paʻa ka kākau ʻana, maikaʻi ka waiwai hana, a ua ʻike nā mea hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i kā lākou makemake a pehea e loaʻa ai ia mea mai kā lākou mea hana keaka. Ke hana ʻia ia ma hope ke hoʻopau ʻia i kahi moʻolelo i haʻi maikaʻi ʻia. A pane mau ka poʻe i kēlā.

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