Ua loaʻa iaʻu ka manawa e noho ai a kamaʻilio pū me Kempff e pili ana i kāna kiʻiʻoniʻoni hiʻona, ka wiwo ʻole kīwila, ʻo David Lynch, a me ka makaʻu o ka manaʻoʻiʻo ʻole ʻia.

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Kelly McNeely: No laila maopopo iaʻu he hoʻololi a i ʻole ma muli o kahi moʻolelo pōkole na Johan Theorin i kapa ʻia Nā Papani. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i kou ʻike ʻana i kēlā moʻolelo? A pehea ia i ʻōlelo maoli ai iā ʻoe?

Frida Kempff: ʻAe, ʻike wau i kahi puke moʻolelo. Ua hana au i nā palapala palapala ma mua, a ua manaʻo mau au i nā palapala palapala, ʻo ia kahi mea i nele iaʻu ma ke ʻano he alakaʻi, ʻike ʻoe, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hana i ka palette holoʻokoʻa. No laila, i koʻu loaʻa ʻana i ka moʻolelo, manaʻo wau, auwe, maikaʻi kēia. I kēia manawa hiki iaʻu ke noʻonoʻo a hana me nā mea āpau, me ke kani a me ke mele a me nā kala a me nā mea āpau. A no laila ua loaʻa iaʻu ka ʻae. A ʻōlelo ʻo ia, ʻike ʻoe, ʻoluʻolu, hele wale. 

A ʻo kaʻu mea makemake loa me ka puke moʻolelo, ʻo ia ke kumuhana o ka manaʻoʻiʻo ʻole. ʻOi aku ma ke ʻano he wahine, a ʻo ka paʻakikī hoʻi e haʻi i ka moʻolelo i loko o waho. A me nā pilikia. Akā makemake au i ka paʻakikī ma ia mea, no ka mea, manaʻo wau he ʻano pōkole ka moʻolelo - ʻaʻole lōʻihi - ʻoi aku ia, ʻoi aku ka hohonu o ka ʻeli ʻana i ka moʻolelo i loko o kona kino a me kona noʻonoʻo. A ʻo ia kahi mea aʻu i makemake nui ai e hoʻāʻo.

Kelly McNeely: Nui ka hana ma laila. A mahalo au i nā kumumanaʻo o ke kukui uila, manaʻo wau he wahine ʻaʻole mākou e ʻoluʻolu i kēlā. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi e pili ana i kēlā? A he aha ka pane a me ka pane i ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni?

Frida Kempff: ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke hālāwai me ka nui o ka lehulehu, ʻaʻole naʻe. Ua hana au i ʻelua mau hōʻike ʻana - pre screenings - ma Suena. A ua ʻōlelo wau ua manaʻo wau e manaʻoʻiʻo ʻia nā wahine a pau. A hiki iaʻu ke ʻike i ke anaina holoʻokoʻa, a ʻo ka hapalua o ke anaina he mau wāhine, a ʻike wale au i ko lākou kunou ʻana, ʻike ʻoe, ʻaʻole maopopo i nā kāne kaʻu e kamaʻilio nei. 

A manaʻo wau he mea ia a mākou e lawe pū ai me mākou. A ʻo ia kekahi mea aʻu i makemake ai e hana kikeke anaʻIke ʻoe, hiki paha i nā kāne ke hoʻomaopopo i kona manaʻo, ʻo ka wahine. A ma ka hana ʻana i kēlā, hoʻokomo maoli i ka lehulehu i nā kāmaʻa o Molly. A manaʻo wau he nui nā kāne i maopopo. ʻIke ʻoe, he ʻoiaʻiʻo anei kēlā? ʻO ia kāu ʻike? Manaʻo wau ma ia ʻano, ua hoʻomaka ia i kekahi mea i loko o ka lolo o nā kāne, ʻike ʻoe? [ʻakaʻaka] I kekahi manawa paʻakikī ke wehewehe i kāu mau ʻōlelo. ʻOi aku ka maikaʻi o ka hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni. 

Kelly McNeely: Manaʻo wau he ʻano kiʻiʻoniʻoni mehameha loa ia, ʻo ia ʻano hānai i ka paranoia me Molly, a hoʻohana maoli ʻia ke kani a me ke kala e kōkua i ke kamaʻilio ʻana a kōkua i ka ʻimi ʻana i kēlā. He aha ke ʻano o ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana i nā mea a pau, e hoʻokō maoli i ke ʻano o ka hana hohonu?

Frida Kempff: ʻAe, manaʻo wau he mea maʻalahi ia. Ma ke ʻano he maʻalahi, no ka mea, hoʻokahi wale nō manaʻo. No laila pono nā keʻena āpau (o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni) e hahai i ka huakaʻi manaʻo o Molly. No laila ua loaʻa iaʻu ka manaʻo e hoʻohana i kahi ʻōnaehana kala. No laila, hahai lākou i ko Molly huhū. ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni iā ​​ia ma ka manawa, no laila ua kamaʻilio wau i nā kala ma mua o nā huaʻōlelo. No laila, i koʻu alakaʻi ʻana iā Cecilia (Milocco), ʻōlelo wau he pono ʻoe - ʻo ia hoʻi, ʻo ka ʻōmaʻomaʻo e hoʻomaka me, a ʻo ka hohonu, ʻulaʻula hohonu ka hopena o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni - a ʻōlelo wau, ʻaʻole, ʻo ʻoe ' ʻAʻole ʻulaʻula i kēia manawa, ʻulaʻula wale nō ʻoe a i ʻole kekahi mea. Aʻo ka hoʻolālā hoʻonohonoho a me nā kukui, hahai lākou i keʻano like. No laila ʻae, pēlā wau i kūkulu ai.

Kelly McNeely: Aloha au i kāu mea i ʻōlelo ai e pili ana i ka loaʻa ʻana o kēlā laula, ʻo ia ka nui o ka hiki ke ana i kona wahi i ka noʻonoʻo a me ka naʻau, no ka mea, manaʻo maoli ʻoe ma o ke kala kala o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni.

Frida Kempff: ʻAe, ʻike ʻia ʻo ia i ka wā e holo ana ʻo ia i nā kāne, i ka wā i loaʻa ai iā lākou ka pahu kiʻi kiʻi ma luna ona. He pālule keʻokeʻo wale nō kāna, ʻaʻole ʻulaʻula. Akā, ma ka ʻatikala aʻe, ʻulaʻula maoli. Hele maoli ʻo ia i ke kala ʻulaʻula i ka pana like. He ʻano leʻaleʻa maoli.

Kelly McNeely: Manaʻo wau e like me nā mea o ʻO ka puka ma hope me Hoʻowahāwahā, ma ke ʻano, a me ke ʻano o nā snippet o ka wā i hala a mākou e ʻimi nei ma waho o ka pōʻaiapili, i manaʻo wau Nā mea Pāʻani kahi mea liʻiliʻi. Loaʻa nā wahi hoʻoikaika no ʻoe i ka wā e hana ai kikeke ana? Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi e pili ana i ia mau mea?

Frida Kempff: ʻAe, ua maopopo, Hoʻopiʻi. I kēlā manaʻo, ua manaʻo wau he mea hou ka loaʻa ʻana o ka manaʻo wahine, ʻike ʻoe, ʻaʻole he manaʻo Polanski. Manaʻo wau he nui nā wahine e hana weliweli. No ka mea, ʻike mākou pehea ia, ʻike ʻoe? A ʻO ka puka ma hope, ʻoiaʻiʻo, e nānā wale ana i kekahi mea a ʻaʻole maopopo inā pono ʻoe e hoʻopili a ʻaʻole paha, he hoihoi. ʻO ia ke ʻano o ko mākou noho ʻana i ke kaiāulu, ʻoi aku hoʻi ma Suetena. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu pehea ia i ka US, akā ma Suedena, "mai hoʻopili". E noʻonoʻo wale i kāu ʻoihana ponoʻī. A ʻike ʻoe, hiki iā ʻoe ke lohe i ka walaʻau, akā ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e hana i kekahi mea. No laila, manaʻo wau he mea nui ka wiwo ʻole kīwila. 

Akā, ʻae, ʻo Hitchcock lāua ʻo David Lynch, a pēlā pū kekahi Nā mea Pāʻani. Hauʻoli wau i kou ʻike ʻana i kēlā, i hele mai i ke kaʻina hoʻoponopono. No ka mea, loaʻa iā mākou kāna mau flashbacks mai kahakai - ʻo ia wale nō ʻelua mau kaʻina. Akā, ua ʻike au ma ka hapa mua, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke nānā wale iā ia. Pono ʻoe e ʻike iā ia a me kāna mea i hele ai. No laila, ua nānā koke wau Nā mea Pāʻani a manaʻo wau he mea nui loa nā ʻāpana o kahi trauma. No laila ua hoʻohana wau i kēlā, lawe wale wau [ʻakaʻaka].

Kelly McNeely: Makemake au i ke ʻano o ka lawe ʻana i nā mea i waho o ka pōʻaiapili, hopu ʻoe i ka manaʻo ma hope o ia mea, akā ʻaʻole pono ka mea i hana ʻia, ʻo ia ke ʻano e hoʻonui ai i ka manaʻo, manaʻo wau.

Frida Kempff: ʻAe. A ke manaʻo nei au pēlā me ka hoʻomanaʻo a me ka ʻeha. Nānā ʻoe i kekahi mea a honi ʻoe i kekahi mea a hoʻi mai iā ʻoe i ka ʻike maka, a laila ua hala.

Kelly McNeely: Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe pehea mākou e ʻike ai i ka hana ʻino a ʻaʻole mākou e ʻōlelo i kekahi mea, akā he manaʻo hoihoi loa ia. Manaʻo wau ua ʻike mākou i kēia mau mea, a ke ʻike nei mākou i kēia mau mea, akā aia kekahi ʻano mea moʻomeheu ʻaʻole e ʻōlelo i kekahi mea, ʻaʻole komo, ʻaʻole komo. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi e pili ana i kēlā, a pehea ka hopena o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni?

Frida Kempff: ʻAe, heluhelu nui au i nā nūhou e pili ana i nā wahine i hoʻomāinoino ʻia - ʻoi aku hoʻi i loko o nā hale - a me nā hoalauna e hoʻokomo i nā pani pepeiao no ka mea, ʻike ʻoe, pono lākou e hele i ka hana. “Maluhiluhi wale au i kona walaau ana”. A manaʻo wau he mea weliweli kēlā. No ke aha mākou e hana ʻole ai? A no laila, he mea koʻikoʻi kēia wiwo ʻole kīwila iaʻu e kamaʻilio ai. A no ke aha mākou e hana ʻole ai. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu inā ʻoi aku ka ʻino, a ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ma mua, ʻaʻole wau ʻike. Akā me he mea lā ua nui aʻe kā mākou poʻe, a ʻaʻole mākou e mālama i nā mea e hana nei a puni mākou. No laila, kaumaha. Akā, ʻike ʻoe, aia nō ka manaʻolana, hiki iā mākou ke hana i nā mea.

Kelly McNeely: E ʻohi mākou i kā mākou kelepona a hoʻopaʻa i kēlā i kekahi manawa. ʻIke ʻoe, kāpae i nā mea e hana nei a puni ʻoe i nā manawa he nui.

Frida Kempff: ʻAe. A he nui nā nūhou maikaʻi ʻole, no laila ke manaʻo wale nei ʻoe… malia paha ua luhi ʻoe i ia mea. Akā ʻo wau ke manaʻo nei ma hope o ka maʻi maʻi, a me nā mea āpau, manaʻo wau e makaʻala hou aku kekahi i kekahi. A ʻoi aku ka poʻe mehameha, a i ʻole ka maʻi noʻonoʻo. ʻIke ʻoe, e ʻōlelo aloha, a kono aku i nā kānaka e hele mai no ke kīʻaha kofe. ʻIke wale ʻoe, ʻike kekahi i kekahi. 

Kelly McNeely: Ano, Molly — Cecilia Milocco. He mea kupanaha ia. Pehea ʻoe i komo ai iā ia, pehea ʻoe i hālāwai ai me ia? 

Frida Kempff: Ua hana maoli au i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni pōkole me ia ma mua o ke kāhea ʻana Aloha Keiki. Manaʻo wau ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia, e like me hoʻokahi huaʻōlelo a i ʻole kekahi mea i loko o nā minuke 15, a ke nānā maoli nei ʻo ia i kekahi mea. Manaʻo paha ʻo ia e hana ʻino ʻia kahi keiki, akā ʻaʻohe ona hōʻike. No laila, ʻoi aku ʻo ia i mea hōʻike ma ka pōkole. A he mea nui e pili ana i ka pahupaʻikiʻi ma kona alo. A hōʻike ʻo ia i kēia mau ʻōlelo a pau me ka ʻōlelo ʻole. No laila, i koʻu loaʻa ʻana o ka puke no kikeke ana, ʻike ʻoe, ʻike wale wau ua kūpono ʻo ia no ka hana. 

No laila, aia mākou a pau, e kūkulu i ka hilinaʻi me kekahi, akā pono wau iā ia e hoʻoikaika hou iā ia kikeke ana, ae nō hoʻi. A kamaʻilio mākou i ke kauwela holoʻokoʻa ma mua o ka pana ʻana, ʻaʻole no Molly, akā ʻoi aku ka nui o ka, ʻike ʻoe, he aha ka maʻi noʻonoʻo? He aha ka pupule? Pehea e lilo ai i wahine? A laila koho mākou i nā mea mai ko mākou ʻike ponoʻī, a kūkulu pū mākou iā Molly i ke ʻano. Ua aʻo pū ʻo ia ma kahi papa psychiatric no hoʻokahi lā. A ʻōlelo ʻo ia, ʻaʻole pono wau i kahi noiʻi hou. I kēia manawa ua loaʻa iaʻu. Ua loaʻa iaʻu ke kuleana. Ua loaʻa iaʻu ka ʻāpana. Akā, kupaianaha ʻo ia. He mea kupanaha ia. Manaʻo wau ua hānau ʻia ʻo ia, ʻike ʻoe.

Kelly McNeely: Eia hou, kona helehelena. A kamaʻilio nui ʻo ia ma o kēlā mau micro expressions, nā volumes wale nō.

Frida Kempff: Pololei. ʻAe. No laila, ʻo kaʻu mea e makaʻala ai, ʻo ia ke kali me ka pahū. "ʻAʻole i kēia manawa", ʻike ʻoe, no ka mea makemake wale ʻo ia e hele no ia mai ka hoʻomaka ʻana. Akā "ʻaʻole,ʻaʻole i kēia manawa. Ua lawa. Ke hoʻohiki nei au iā ʻoe, ua lawa” [ʻakaʻaka].

Kelly McNeely: A he aha nā paʻakikī o ka hana ʻana i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni kahi āu e kālele nei i ka manaʻo o hoʻokahi kanaka, a i ʻole ko lākou ʻike i nā hanana?

Frida Kempff: Hmm. ʻIke ʻoe, ʻaʻole wau i hana ʻē aʻe. No laila ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu pehea ka hana ʻana me kahi kime nui. Ma kekahi ʻano, manaʻo wau he mea maʻalahi paha ia, no ka mea e noʻonoʻo wale ʻoe i hoʻokahi ʻano. ʻO ka pilikia, ʻo ia wale nō i nā manawa a pau. Aia ʻo ia i loko o kēia keʻena, e like me 80% o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a ke hana nei ʻo ia i ʻehā mau paia, a pehea ʻoe e hana ai i kēlā? No laila ua loaʻa iaʻu kekahi mau leo ​​i hoʻopaʻa mua ʻia nona, i hiki iā ia ke hana i kēlā. Eia kekahi, i kekahi manawa e uē au, no laila he mea kāna e pane ai. A ʻae, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu ka ʻokoʻa. No laila, manaʻo wau he mea hoihoi ke hoʻāʻo i kēlā [ʻakaʻaka]. 

Loaʻa iā mākou kekahi mau mea keaka kākoʻo. Ma hope o hoʻokahi pule, hele mai hoʻokahi kanaka - he mea keaka kākoʻo - a ua like ʻo [Cecilia], ʻo ia, ʻakaʻaka loa, hiki iaʻu ke kamaʻilio me ʻoe i kēia lā. ʻO koʻu manaʻo - no Cecilia - he mea paʻakikī, ʻo ka lohe ʻole i nā leo i loko o koʻu poʻo. Ua loaʻa iaʻu kēia kani a pau i loko o koʻu poʻo a hiki i ka pana ʻana. Akā, ʻaʻole i loaʻa iā ia kēlā, ʻoiaʻiʻo. No laila, pono wau e hōʻoia iā ia ua lawa. ʻIke ʻoe, ʻo ʻoe wale nō, e hoʻohui au i kēia honua kani ma hope.

Kelly McNeely: Maopopo iaʻu ʻo kāu kiʻiʻoniʻoni mua kēia e like me ke ʻano o ka moʻolelo, a i ʻole ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Makemake ʻoe i nā ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo no nā alakaʻi ʻōpio e makemake nei e hana i kā lākou hiʻohiʻona mua, a i ʻole nā ​​​​mea ʻē aʻe, nā alakaʻi wahine ʻōpio makemake e wehe i ke ʻano a makemake paha e hana i ka ʻoihana? 

Frida Kempff: He nīnau maikaʻi. Manaʻo wau e pono ʻoe e ʻeli hohonu iā ʻoe iho, a me kāu ʻike. E hoʻohana i kāu ʻike ponoʻī, no ka mea, i ka wā kokoke iā ʻoe, lilo ia i mea pono. ʻO ia koʻu manaʻo. E ʻaihue i nā mea, akā mai hoʻāʻo e hana i kahi mea ʻē aʻe ʻO ka puka ma hope, no ka mea, ua loaʻa iā mākou kēlā. Ke manaʻo nei au ke hana ʻoe mai kāu iho a me kou hiʻohiʻona a me kou ʻike ponoʻī, lilo ia i mea kūʻokoʻa, a ʻo ia kā mākou makemake e ʻike. 

Manaʻo wau he mea maikaʻi ke paʻakikī. No ka mea, i kēlā me kēia manawa, hāʻule ʻoe a paʻa ʻoe, a ʻōlelo mai ka poʻe, ʻo, paʻakikī loa, hiki i koʻu manawa. Akā inā makemake ʻoe, e hoʻomau. E hele a loaʻa iā ʻoe nā poʻe maikaʻi e hana pū me, nā poʻe hiki ke kōkua iā ʻoe. A mai makaʻu e hoʻolohe i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe. Akā naʻe, loaʻa kāu ʻike ponoʻī. He kaulike. 

Kelly McNeely: I kēia manawa ua nīnau au ma mua e pili ana i nā mea hoʻoikaika no kikeke ana, akā ma ke ʻano ākea wale nō, loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli? A i ʻole he kiʻiʻoniʻoni punahele āu i hoʻi ai?

Frida Kempff: Ua ulu au ma ka ʻāina o Suedena. No laila, loaʻa iā mākou nā ala aupuni - ʻelua mau kahawai - a no laila i koʻu 11 a i ʻole 12, nānā wau Twin kuahiwi. A he mea kupanaha kēlā. He mea weliweli loa. Ke hoʻomanaʻo nei au he lāʻau ko mākou ma waho, no ka mea, he mahiʻai ia, a ʻike ʻoe, ʻo ka lāʻau Lynch a me nā mele e hele ana ma ia? He mea weliweli loa. A manaʻo wau aia wau i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni Lynch. He mea kupaianaha pehea e hiki ai iā mākou ke hana me nā mea kahiko. A ʻaʻole au i ʻike i kēlā ma mua. No laila e hoʻomanaʻo mau wau i kēlā, manaʻo wau he mea kupanaha ʻo ia. 

Akā ua nānā au i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli ʻino i koʻu mau makahiki ʻōpio. No laila, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole wau makemake. A laila ʻoiaʻiʻo, i koʻu nānā ʻana iā Jordan Peele Hele i waho, ua hoʻi mai iaʻu. Pehea ʻoe e ʻōlelo ai i kekahi mea e pili ana i ka honua a mākou e noho nei ma ke ʻano he kaiāulu a me nā mea āpau, manaʻo wau he mea kupanaha. ʻO ia kaʻu mea makemake i kēlā ʻano kiʻiʻoniʻoni.

Kelly McNeely: A ke manaʻo nei au aia kekahi mea weliweli loa e pili ana i ka manaʻo o ka manaʻoʻiʻo ʻole. Eia hou, ua like nā mea a pau, ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole, maikaʻi kēia, maikaʻi kēia, a me ka ʻike hohonu ʻaʻole pono kekahi mea. A manaʻo wau he nui nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli loa me ka hoʻomaopopo ʻana i kēlā makaʻu, e pāʻani maoli ana i kēlā makaʻu, a Hele i waho hana maoli kēlā. 

Frida Kempff: A ʻo ka poʻe e nānā nei i ka weliweli, he poʻe kiʻiʻoniʻoni maikaʻi loa lākou. Loaʻa iā lākou kēia manaʻo kupanaha. Manaʻo wau he ʻokoʻa ia mai kahi anaina hana keaka, ʻike ʻoe, he mea maoli a ʻoiaʻiʻo a me nā mea āpau, akā i ka weliweli, he kilokilo. A hiki iā lākou ke hahai mau iā ʻoe i kēlā kilokilo.

Kelly McNeely: ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo. Inā he ʻO Sharknado, e hele wale na kanaka me ia. 

Frida Kempff: ʻAe, ʻae, loa. Hele mākou me kēlā [ʻakaʻaka]. ʻAe. Aloha au i kēlā. 

Kelly McNeely: No laila he aha kāu mea e hiki mai ana? 

Frida Kempff: ʻO ka mea aʻe he mea ʻokoʻa loa. He ʻāpana ia o ka wā wahine. No laila ua hoʻonohonoho ʻia i hoʻokahi makahiki ma mua o ka hoʻomaka ʻana o ke kaua honua ʻelua. Hoʻokumu ʻia ia ma ka moʻolelo ʻoiaʻiʻo e pili ana i kahi kanaka ʻauʻau Suedena i ʻau aku i ke Channel English ʻekolu lā ma mua o ka hoʻomaka ʻana o ke kaua. Ua kapa ʻia ʻO ka Kuekene Torpedo. No kona ʻau ʻauʻau wikiwiki loa ʻo ia he torpedo. Akā, manaʻo wau e hoʻohana pū wau i nā mea mai ke ʻano i loko. E lawe au i kēlā me aʻu.

 

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