ʻO Josh Ruben kahi kanaka-e pili ana i ke kaona i ke ʻano weliweli. He mea hana keaka ʻo ia, mea kākau, luna alakaʻi, a mea hana, kaulana no kāna mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni (Makaʻu iaʻu a Werewolves Loko) a - i kēia manawa - kāna kuleana ma ʻO Travis Stevens ' He Wahine Eha, kahi e pāʻani ai ʻo ia i kahi pepehi kanaka paʻa ʻole me kona maka i kahi makana hou. 

Ma mua o ka loaʻa ʻana o kahi home me ka weliweli, kuhikuhi ʻo Ruben i nā kiʻi kiʻi no Hōʻike Late Late me James Corden a me nā ʻāpana o Hoʻopau ʻo Adamu i nā mea āpau, a oia kekahi o na lala hookumu o KahunaHumor'O ka 'Oihana "Originals" (kahi i alaka'i 'ia ai 'o ia a ho'okani 'ia i loko o nā kaukani pōkole ho'ohenehene). He kanaka paʻahana loa ʻo ia i nā makahiki.

Ua hiki iaʻu ke kamaʻilio me Ruben e pili ana He Wahine Eha, ke kālā horror-comedy ʻelua ʻaoʻao, a he aha ka mea e hiki mai ana. 

Kelly McNeely: Mahalo wau i kou hele ʻana mai e kamaʻilio me aʻu i kēia lā, ua nānā au i ka ʻino o Kula Humor iaʻu i ke kulanui. No laila, mahalo hou i kou hui pū ʻana me aʻu. Ma kēlā memo, weliweli a me ka comedy ʻano ʻelua ʻaoʻao o ke kālā hoʻokahi, ma ke ʻano. ʻO ia ka manaʻo like o ka hoʻonohonoho a me ka punchline, pololei? A ʻike wau ua loaʻa iā ʻoe ka ʻike ākea me ka comedy, hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi e pili ana i kēlā hoʻololi, a pehea - ʻo ia - kēlā ʻano hana kaulike?

ʻO Josh Ruben: ʻAe, ʻo koʻu manaʻo, aia kekahi mau ʻāpana like ʻole o kēia kamaʻilio ʻana, ʻo ka mea mua, ʻike ʻoe, aia ka punchline i manaʻo ʻole ʻia, e like me ka makaʻu ʻole. No laila, loaʻa iā ʻoe kēlā ʻano congruence. Manaʻo wau i ka mea e pili ana i ia mea, comedy - a i ʻole nā ​​​​mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni ʻoniʻoni, e like me Jordan Peele a me Zach Cregger, a ʻaʻa wau e hoʻokomo iaʻu iho ma kahi kokoke i nā mea like me lākou - manaʻo wau no ke aha mākou e hana nei no ka mea he poʻe paʻa palena mākou, no ka mea hoʻopaʻa a hoʻoulu mākou a loaʻa paha iā mākou ka pōmaikaʻi iki i ka nānā ʻana i ka moʻomeheu, no ka mea, ua skewer mākou. A i ʻole kekahi ʻano ʻano pilikino a mākou e makemake ai e skewer; ʻO kaʻu mea kūikawā me he kanaka lāʻau lāʻau. 

ʻO kaʻu kiʻiʻoniʻoni mua e pili ana i kahi kāne emasculated i ka malu o ka wahine nui, a makemake wau e ʻoki maoli i kēlā me ka ʻakaʻaka a me ka weliweli. No laila ke manaʻo nei au aia kahi pōmaikaʻi ma laila, a ʻoiaʻiʻo i loko o ka ʻaoʻao ʻenehana o ia mea a pau, ʻike ʻoe, ʻo nā endorphins aʻu e manaʻo ai he ahi ke ala like. Piʻi like ko mākou puʻuwai. ʻO ka ʻakaʻaka i manaʻo ʻole ʻia e loaʻa i kahi guffaw i manaʻo ʻole ʻia, kahi i loaʻa ai ka makaʻu i ka uē.

Kelly McNeely: Ua hauʻoli wau i ka lohe ʻana iā ʻoe i ʻōlelo ai iā Zach Cregger, no ka mea Pukapakai he mea kupanaha, a ua aloha au Na Keiki Keokeo U' Know pū kekahi. ʻAʻole au i ʻike ua kuhikuhi ʻo ia i koʻu hele ʻana i kēlā kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ua aʻo au ma hope o ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, a ua like ia me kaʻu aʻo ʻana i kēlā. Kaumaha ua alakaʻi ʻia e kekahi kanaka mai Kanada mai. Ua puhi i koʻu manaʻo! Akā, makemake au e kamaʻilio iki Makaʻu iaʻu a me ke akamai o ka haʻi moʻolelo, no ka mea, he hana keaka a me ka noʻonoʻo, a makemake nui au i kēlā. Pehea i hoʻokumu ʻia ai ke ʻano o ia kiʻiʻoniʻoni?

ʻO Josh Ruben: He ʻano hoʻopunipuni, a he ʻano meta paha, no ka mea, ʻo kēlā me kēia palapala aʻu i kākau ai a hiki i kēlā manawa me ka ʻole o ka wehewehe ʻana, ua hāʻawi wale mai iaʻu i ka poloka kākau. I kēlā me kēia manawa aʻu e hoʻomaka wale nei e kākau i kahi moʻolelo, e like me ke kākau ʻana o kekahi i kahi puke moʻolelo, paʻi wau i ka ʻaoʻao 33 a ua like wau, e, shit, he moʻolelo pōkole wale nō kēia. A i ʻole, ʻaʻole wau i noʻonoʻo pono i nā mea āpau. Ua hoʻopiha au i ka Act Two me kēlā mau palapala - me kēlā mau palapala i hāʻule - ua lilo lākou, ma ke ʻano, nā moʻolelo pōkole, nā moʻolelo anthology. Akā ʻo ka mīkini o ia mea ʻo kēia tête-à-tête ma waena o kēia mau mea ʻelua, nā hoʻokūkū āpau. 

ʻO kaʻu kowali mua o ka papa hana he ʻoi aku ka nui - manaʻo wau - maopopo ʻo Fred e lilo ana i mea pepehi kanaka psycho, a ʻo ia ka mea e hiki mai ana. Akā, ʻaʻole, e hoʻohina iki kākou i kēia laina, e hoʻolilo kākou iā ia i kanaka palupalu i ka nui o ka waiʻona a ʻo ia ke kumu o ka huila ʻekolu ma hope o ka pō ʻaʻohe mea i paʻi. No laila, e kamaʻilio wale aku i ke ʻano o ia mea, ua hoʻopili wau i ke kikowaena o ia mea a hele i ka piko me nā moʻolelo, ʻo ke ʻano paha o kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni.

Kelly McNeely: Ua hana ʻoe i kahi mea liʻiliʻi ma mua a ma hope o ka pahupaʻikiʻi, ʻo ia ka mea e hauʻoli a hauʻoli paha?

ʻO Josh Ruben: Hoʻohoihoi lāua iaʻu ma nā ʻano he nui. Manaʻo wau i koʻu ʻike ma ke ʻano he mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni - ʻo ia kaʻu pane mua loa, ma ka liʻiliʻi loa i kēia au o koʻu ola - ma ke ʻano he mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni i kēia manawa ua ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o ka hana a me ka hoʻokō ʻana no ka mea ke mālama nei au i ke ʻano o nā alakaʻi ʻē aʻe. ke kamaʻilio nei nā mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni i kā lākou hui a me kā lākou hoʻolei a kamaʻilio. No laila ke aʻo nei au. ʻO ka mea paʻakikī ke makemake ʻoe e ʻeli i kou mau manamana lima i kou mau kuli a makemake ʻole, ʻaʻole e ʻōlelo i kekahi mea a ʻaʻole kōkua e hele mai ma ke ʻano he mansplainer. 

Akā, ke manaʻo nei au no kekahi minuke ua waiho wau i ka hana ʻana, a i ʻole ka liʻiliʻi o ka hauʻoli no ia mea, no ka mea, ua hauʻoli wau i ka hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli o ia mea, ka mana āpau o ia mea, ka ʻike o ia mea a me ka hoʻokele a me ke kāpena o ka moku. Akā, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole i pau koʻu aloha i ka hana keaka, akā ua hoʻi mai He Wahine Eha. No ka mea, he hana moeʻuhane ka pāʻani hoʻoweliweli a hoʻoweliweli, a me ke ʻano o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a me ke akamai a me ke akamai.

Kelly McNeely: A me ka ʻole o ka mea hao wale, kou ʻano i loko He Wahine Eha he kanaka paʻakikī, e ʻōlelo mākou? Pehea ʻoe e hoʻomākaukau ai no kēlā? A pehea ʻo ia i kūʻē ai iā ʻoe?

ʻO Josh Ruben: ʻO ka hoʻomākaukau ʻana ia mea noʻu he ʻelua, ʻo ka mua o ka ʻike ʻana i kāna mask. He kanaka narcissist ʻo ia, no laila ke ʻaʻahu nei ʻo ia i ka maka a hana i kēlā manawa a i ʻole kēlā veneer, i ka wā e huli ai ʻo Meredith (Sarah Lind) a i ʻole kekahi ʻano ʻē aʻe i ko lākou kua i kēia kanaka, a heheʻe ia e ʻike ʻoe. he mau hōʻailona liʻiliʻi wale nō o wai a me kona ʻano maoli. 

Ke pāʻani nei me kēlā, akā, ʻoiai he mea ʻakaʻaka wale nō, a he goofball - paha - i ka poʻe i loko o koʻu ola pilikino - i kahi pae hoʻonāukiuki - e like me ka ʻōlelo ʻana a hana paha i kahi mea ʻakaʻaka, a i ʻole poke a prod. Ua kamaʻilio wau e pili ana i ka hoʻokuke ʻana i nā palena i kahi degere obnoxious, pono wau e hoʻopaʻa pono iaʻu iho i ʻole e hopu ʻia e hoʻāʻo e ʻakaʻaka, a e hoʻāʻo e launa pū me kahi ʻaoʻao hoʻowalewale, no ka mea, ʻo ia ka hana a kēia kanaka. ʻO ia kāna hānai ʻana. ʻO ia ke ʻano o kona hoʻowalewale ʻana i nā wahine. No laila, pono wau e pāʻani maʻalahi, ʻaʻole loa wau i hana; ʻOi aku koʻu ʻoluʻolu i ka pāʻani ʻokoʻa.

Kelly McNeely: Mahalo nui wau i ka - kokoke i ke ʻano sub genre - makemake wau e kapa ʻia ʻo Red Flag weliweli, e like me Mea hou ʻo ia kekahi kumu hoʻohālike maikaʻi. Me he mea lā e hoʻopili ʻoe i kahi mea primal me He Wahine Eha; ma ke ʻano he mea keaka, ʻoi aku ka manuahi? A i ʻole ʻoi aku ka paʻakikī o ka hoʻopaʻa ʻana?

ʻO Josh Ruben: ʻŌ, kaʻawale loa. He ʻoluʻolu loa ia, manaʻo wau no kēlā me kēia kumu i loaʻa iaʻu, a i ʻole i hoʻomohala ʻia paha, kahi mana o kaʻu mea kani. No ka mea, i koʻu wā he keaka a ʻaʻole i loaʻa i luna, ua hoʻomaka wau e komo i ka hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni, hana kiʻi kiʻi me koʻu mau hoaaloha. ʻOiai ma mua Kula Humor, ua loaʻa iā mākou kahi hui kiʻi kiʻi me kekahi o nā ʻauwaʻa like. Aʻo ʻoe i ke ʻano e hoʻomalu i kāu mea kani. 

No laila, heluhelu wau i ka lumi, a i ʻole e hana like me kaʻu ʻano barometer no ka lōʻihi o koʻu lawe ʻana i kekahi mea a pehea e ʻike ʻia ai ma ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni, manaʻo wau. Manaʻo wau he akamai nō paha ia i loaʻa iā ʻoe ma ke ʻano he mea keaka; i kēlā manawa, ua komo au i ka hale keaka i koʻu wā liʻiliʻi. No laila ʻae, ua hoʻokuʻu ʻia. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, he kahua pāʻani ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni holoʻokoʻa, pono wau e pāʻani i kēlā me kēia ʻaoʻao o ka spectrum aʻu i makemake ai e makaʻala.

ʻO Kelly McNeely: Ma ke ʻano he keiki keaka ma mua, mahalo wau i ke ʻano mele Helene o He Wahine Eha. He mea i manaʻo ʻole ʻia. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi e pili ana i kēlā mea o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni a pehea e hoʻololi iki ai i ka weliweli?

ʻO Josh Ruben: ʻOiaʻiʻo. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, ʻike ʻoe, ʻoiai, ke nānā nei ʻoe i kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a ʻo wau, ua kau inoa wau no ka mea ʻo Patrick Bateman ma ʻO ka makeʻino ʻO ka hale a me nā Furies he Cenobites, ʻike ʻoe? No laila, ʻo ka mea e hoʻomaka ai, ʻo ia ka manaʻo e like me ka slasher i lilo i moʻolelo ʻuhane. A ʻo ka hope loa, ʻo ia ke ʻano o ka Greek superhero, feminist phantasmagoric saga, moʻolelo, mokuna, a me kekahi o ia ʻano - ʻaʻole wau e kapa ʻia he pōʻino, he moʻolelo Helene wale nō. No laila, mahalo wale au i kona neʻe ʻana. 

Manaʻo wau e hoʻololi ka weliweli mai nā mea a pau e manaʻo ai i ka derivative mua a kamaʻāina, a laila huli i loko, manaʻo wau i kahi mea o ka holo ʻana o ka roller coaster, no ka mea he aha ka mea ʻoi aku ka cathartic ma mua o ka hōʻike ʻana i kahi kanaka shitty, narcissistic? ʻO ia kaʻu mea makemake i ka pāʻani ʻana i ka ʻeke kuʻi i loko o kēia mau moʻolelo, ʻo wai ma hope o ʻehā mau makahiki o ka pelekikena hope loa, me he mea lā, ʻaʻole anei ʻo ia ke ʻano o ke kanaka āu e makemake ai e hoʻonāwaliwali? Akā, me ka hoʻopōʻino ʻole i kekahi mea, makemake lākou e hana i kekahi mea akā e ʻae i kā lākou hana hewa.

Kelly McNeely: A eia hou, me ka ʻole o ka hao wale ʻana i kekahi mea, hoʻomanaʻo iki ka hopena o nā hōʻaiʻē iaʻu i ka hopena o Pearl, paʻa hou i kēlā no nā minuke he nui, pehea ka lōʻihi? Ua like ia me he mau loa aku? Pehea ka lōʻihi ma mua o ka ʻoki ʻana?

ʻO Josh Ruben: ʻAe, ua hoʻoikaika ʻia ʻo Travis (Stevens) e pana wale i kahi pahu kiʻiʻoniʻoni holoʻokoʻa o kēlā kaʻina ponoʻī, a ʻo ka pahu kiʻiʻoniʻoni he 11 mau minuke. No laila, aia ke kaʻina hōʻaiʻē hope - manaʻo wau he ʻelima mau minuke a hoʻololi - no laila aia ʻelima mau minuke ʻē aʻe ma ka papahele o ka lumi hoʻoponopono o nā mea āu e ʻike nei. He mea hoʻohauʻoli ia, ʻo ia hoʻi, i loko o nā lā ʻelua hope o ka pana ʻana. No laila, i kēlā manawa, ʻo mākou a pau, ʻike ʻoe, he mau pō o ka pana ʻana i nā pō. ʻElua pule o ka pō e hoʻomākaukau iā ʻoe no kekahi mea. No laila ua hauʻoli. 

Nīnau mai nā kānaka a pau iaʻu, ʻoluʻolu paha? Pehea kou maka, pehea ke koko hoʻopunipuni, a me ka ʻaʻahu ʻana i ke toga, ua hauʻoli paha a me kēia mau mea a pau. Ua manaʻo wale wau i ka nānā uila a me ka hoʻokō. Manaʻo wau ua hana mākou a pau, me ka ʻike ʻo ia ka mea a mākou e hana ai. A i kēia manawa, ʻike ʻoe, maopopo iaʻu ua ʻike ʻoe e like me nā mea a pau, pono nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni e hana i kahi pākī, lilo ia i mea e kamaʻilio ai nā kānaka. No laila, inā ʻaʻole ʻoe mahalo i ka hana noʻeau a i ʻole ka giallo o ia mau mea a pau, a i ʻole ke ʻano moʻolelo wahine o ia mea, ʻeā, pono ʻoe e ʻike i kēia mea no kēia kumu paʻakikī. 

Ua like ia me ke kumu o koʻu hauʻoli e ʻike Mea weliweli 2, 'A'ole au i 'ike i ka hapa mua. Akā, ʻōlelo ka poʻe e, pono ʻoe e ʻike no kēia kumu. No laila, hauʻoli wau i ka loaʻa ʻana o kahi mea i kēlā kiʻiʻoniʻoni e hoʻohuli ai i ka poʻe e like me, e, pono wau e nānā i kēlā.

Kelly McNeely: Hiki iaʻu ke haʻi aku iā ʻoe he mea hoʻoweliweli weliweli, ua lilo mau ka weliweli i ʻāpana o kāu kumu, a i ʻole he mea āu i ʻike ai ma hope iki? A makemake ʻoe e hoʻomau i ka hana ma ke ʻano?

ʻO Josh Ruben: He ʻāpana mau ia o koʻu kahua. He poʻe hoʻoweliweli wau ma mua o koʻu lilo ʻana i mea hoʻokani pila. ʻO koʻu kaikuahine ʻo Rachel, ʻo ia ka mea nāna i hoʻolauna mai iaʻu i nā mea like ʻO Freddy's Nightmares a ʻo Stephen King kā Maka maka popoki. A ma ke ʻano he kamaliʻi o nā makahiki 80, ʻaʻole maopopo i kou mau mākua pehea e hoʻoponopono ai i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni ma ke kiʻi uhi, no laila, ua like lākou me oh, Mōʻī ʻo Monkey, e pili ana i kahi mea pāʻani, hiki iā ʻoe ke nānā. 

A makemake wau e hoʻomau i ka hana ʻana i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli. ʻO wau no ka mea e hiki mai ana a ʻelua paha - ʻo kēlā me kēia mea aʻu e loaʻa ai ka manawa kūpono e hana ai - makemake wau e pana i nā makaʻu a ʻike inā hiki iaʻu ke hula i kēlā laina maʻalahi o ka mālama ʻana i ka ʻakaʻaka. No laila ke koi nei i ka weliweli no ka maopopo, a i ka hopena, makemake wau e ʻimi i nā ʻano ʻē aʻe no ka maopopo. Leʻaleʻa wau i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni hoʻokani a i ʻole hoʻonohonoho hoʻokalakupua, akā ma ke ʻano he keiki keaka, makemake wau i kahi mele, hauʻoli wau i ka hoʻokomo ʻana i ke mele a i ʻole ka hula i loko o kekahi o nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni ma lalo o ka laina, me kekahi ʻano ʻano pū kekahi. No laila e ʻike kākou pehea e puka ai kēlā ʻupena.

Kelly McNeely: Ma ke ʻano he mea hoʻoweliweli weliweli, makemake wau iā ʻoe e paipai i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli e makemake ai i kahi mea hoʻoweliweli weliweli. Inā he kanaka i ʻike ʻO ka Exorcist, ua ike lakou The Kiakahi ke Aloha, ua ʻike lākou, ʻike ʻoe, i nā kumu a pau, he aha ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni āu e paipai ai?

ʻO Josh Ruben: Auē! He mea hoʻoweliweli weliweli? Manaʻo wau i kahi mea hoʻoweliweli paʻakikī aʻu i ʻike ʻole ai no ka manawa lōʻihi, akā ʻike wau he mea paʻakikī loa ia, ʻo ia - auē, i kēia manawa ua puka mai ka lua i loko o koʻu poʻo… ʻo, i kēia manawa ke kolu - E paipai au Ka Mana Mua; he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni paʻa me Lou Diamond Phillips, a he kiʻi maoli nō ia - mai ka mea hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomanaʻo, ʻo ia hoʻi, makaʻu nui iaʻu i koʻu wā kamaliʻi, malia paha inā ʻoe e paʻi i kēia manawa he māmā loa ia, akā mai ka mea Hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomanaʻo he ikaika loa. ʻAno a haule-esque plot ka mea hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomanaʻo, he waiwai, akā ʻo ia kekahi o nā mea mua aʻu e hoʻomanaʻo ai. Aia kekahi ʻano hana e like me ka hana koʻikoʻi. 

ʻO kēlā a ʻo kekahi aʻu i ʻike no ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻo ka hardcore kahi i kapa ʻia Nā Kino Kino. ʻO ia ka lā hou ʻO Frankenstein. ʻO ka hana ʻino maoli, ʻeleʻele maoli, a he wahi hana pū kekahi. He ʻuʻuku paha ia i kēia manawa, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomanaʻo pehea, ʻike ʻoe, ʻino loa ia, akā manaʻo wau i koʻu wā e like me 10 e nānā ana, ʻōpiopio loa. Ua mahalo wau no nā kumu e pono ai mākou.

Kelly McNeely: Nui nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni āu e hana nei i kēia manawa, Na Hoahanau Koko ua puka mai nei ma Shudder, a Makaʻu iaʻu a He Wahine Eha, Ua loaʻa i nā mea a pau kahi home ma Shudder, he mea kupanaha no ka mea he kahua kupanaha loa ia… ma kēlā memo like, aia kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni Shudder āu e makemake nui ai?

ʻO Josh Ruben: Pono ʻoe e nānā iā Brian Fuller Queer no ka Makaʻu palapala palapala. Manaʻo wau he mea kupanaha kā lākou palapala palapala. Aia kekahi ʻAʻole hiamoe hou, a'u i maopopo loa aia ma Shudder. Me he ewalu hora Nuʻukia ma ke alanui Elm palapala palapala. He mea kupaianaha, hiki iaʻu ke nānā hou aku. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, hele maoli ia i kēlā me kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni a aia ʻo Robert Englund, a ʻo Heather Langenkamp, ​​a me Wes Craven, he nui nā kiʻi waihona a me nā mea like. Akā, kiʻiʻoniʻoni? ʻAe, manaʻo wau e nānā nā mea a pau E hooweliweli mai ia'u e na Hoahanau Koko, He Wahine Eha, a Nawai i kono ia lakou, hoʻoponopono pū ʻia e Patrick Lawrence nāna i hana Makaʻu iaʻu pū kekahi.

Kelly McNeely: No laila he aha kāu mea e hiki mai ana?

ʻO Josh Ruben: Loaʻa iaʻu kahi moʻolelo kiʻi e puka mai ana he ʻano hoʻomana i koʻu aloha Nā Tale Mai Ka Crypt, me he mea lā he moʻolelo paha ia ma ka hōʻike TV, manaʻolana, no kekahi poʻe. Hiki paha i ka hopena ke wili ʻia no ka makemake o nā kānaka. No laila ua kapa ʻia kēlā ʻO Darla, a e puka mai ana kēlā makahiki aʻe. A ʻo ia me Invader Comics, i kiʻi ʻia e Brianna Tippetts, he mea pena aʻu e makemake nei e hana pū me. 

A ʻo Michael Kennedy, ka mea kākau o Blumhouse's Kupanaha, Ke hana nei au me ia ma kahi mele hoʻoweliweli aʻu i aloha ai, makemake wau e hana. A aia nā mea ʻē aʻe e lana wale ana, ʻaʻole ʻoe e ʻike inā e hiki mai ana, akā makemake wau e hana hou. ʻO Darkman a i ʻole he hope hoʻoilina. Manaʻo wau makemake ʻo Liam Neeson e kīkī i ka hoki a hoʻokomo hou i nā kāʻei.

Kelly McNeely: Inā hōʻike mai ʻo ia iā mākou i kekahi mea me kāna mau koho hoʻokūkū hou, ʻo ia wale nō kāna makemake e hana ai, ʻo ia ke kiki ʻana, ʻike ʻoe?

ʻO Josh Ruben: Pēlā koʻu manaʻo! Manaʻo wau ʻo ia ke kumu e like ai, ʻae, no ke aha e hana ʻole ai i kahi ʻano skewing liʻiliʻi, ʻike ʻoe? ʻAʻole pono ʻoe e lilo i kaʻa kaʻa alanui hau a i ʻole.

Kelly McNeely: A i ʻole kekahi e hoʻāʻo nei e hoʻihoʻi i kā lākou mau keiki.

ʻO Josh Ruben: Loaʻa iaʻu, ʻo wau, loaʻa iaʻu.

Kelly McNeely: He nīnau ʻano ʻē, aia kekahi mea āu e makemake ai e nīnau kekahi iā ʻoe ma kahi ninaninau? Loaʻa iā ʻoe ka nīnau nīnauele ʻole e like me ʻoe, e, makemake nui wau e kamaʻilio e pili ana i kēia mea hoʻokahi?

ʻO Josh Ruben: ʻO koʻu manaʻo, makemake wau - ua nīnau mua ʻoe i nā nīnau loea, e like me nā mea e pili ana i ke kaʻina hana, ʻike mau wau i kēlā. I kēlā me kēia manawa e nīnau mai kekahi - ʻoi aku ka poʻe hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni - e pili ana i kā lākou kaʻina hana, ʻike ʻoe, pehea ʻoe e pale ai i nā mea āpau, e kamaʻilio me nā mea keaka, pehea ʻoe e kamaʻilio ai, a i ʻole ke kemika o nā mea āpau, kēlā ʻano mea āpau. ʻO ia nā ʻano nīnau aʻu i makemake ai. Akā i koʻu manaʻo, ua pā ʻoe i kēlā mau māka. 

Akā ʻo ia ke kumu e ʻai ai au iā Mick Garris ' Pākuʻi make, no ka mea, komo maoli oia. No laila ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu, aia paha i kekahi lā ke hoʻomaha wau a kokoke paha, e hana wau i kahi mea like, overtly technical, me he mea lā ʻaʻole wau e nīnau i nā mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni i ke ʻano o ko lākou ʻano, ua pololei wau. like, pehea ʻoe e hana ai?

Kelly McNeely: Pehea ʻoe e hana ai? He aha kāu hana? He aha kāu e hoʻohana ai? Kākau i lalo i nā mea a pau. 

ʻO Josh Ruben: ʻAe, kikoʻī loa. E imi i ke alakai o Nā Kino Kino a nīnau iā ia i ke kumu o kāna hana ʻana pēlā.

Kaomi ma aneʻi e heluhelu i ka loiloi a Bri He Wahine Eha, ke kahe nei ma Shudder.