Ke Keiki ma hope o ka puka - ʻo ia hoʻi i kēia manawa ma Shudder - He moʻolelo kūpilikiʻi, pīhoihoi e pili ana i ka launa aloha a me ka makaʻu, ke kau nei i kāna mea nui ma luna o nā mea hana keaka ʻelua loea e hāpai i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma kā lākou poʻohiwi hiki ke hana. Kākau pū ʻia a alakaʻi ʻia e nā hoa aloha a me ka duo hana ʻoniʻoni ʻo Justin Powell lāua ʻo David Charbonier, ua loaʻa iaʻu ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma ka lihi o koʻu noho, ua hana ʻia me ka hopohopo no kāna mau alakaʻi ʻelua.

I ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ke kakali nei kahi pō weliweli hiki ʻole ke ʻike ʻia ʻo Bobby (Lonnie Chavis) he ʻumikūmālua ona makahiki a me kāna hoaloha maikaʻi loa, ʻo Kevin (Ezra Dewey), ke kay lawe pio ʻia ʻoe ma kaala ala i ka home mai ke kula. Ke hoʻokele nei e pakele i kāna mau palena paʻa, hoʻokele ʻo Bobby ka nā keʻena pouli, e pule nei i kāna alo e ʻike ʻole ʻia ʻoiai ʻo ia e pale i kāna mea nāna i hopu i kēlā me kēia manawa. ʻOi aku ka maikaʻi ka hōʻea ʻana o kahi malihini ʻē, nona ka hoʻonohonoho pohihihi me ka Kākau paha ka mea kāʻili iā Kevin. Me ke ʻano ʻole o ke kāhea ʻana i ke kōkua a me nā mile o ka ʻāina pouli i kēlā me kēia ʻaoʻao, ua hoʻomaka ʻo Bobby i kahi mikiona hoʻopakele, ua hoʻoholo e hoʻopakele iā ia iho a me Kevin ... a i ʻole make e hoʻāʻo ana.

He mea kupaianaha ia mai Powell a me Charbonier, nā mea i hana i 2021's ʻO ka Djinn (ʻo ia hoʻi nā hōkū ʻo Ezra Dewey). Ua hoʻolōʻihi ka duo i manawa e kamaʻilio pū me aʻu Ke Keiki ma hope o ka puka, keiki i ka pilikia, ka mea nui o ka luna hoʻolei maikaʻi, a me ko lākou aloha i ke ʻano.

Kelly McNeely: He mau hoaaloha ʻoe no ke ola holoʻokoʻa, he mea kupaianaha loa ia. Pehea e hoʻomaka ai kāu moʻolelo o ke aloha? A pehea ʻoe i hoʻomaka ai i kāu hana i ka hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

Justin Powell: Ua ʻike mākou kekahi i kekahi mai ka kindergarten. A hoʻopaʻa paʻa mau mākou ma luna o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, kikoʻī nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli, nā pīhoihoi, ʻike ʻoe, ʻo ia ka mea a mākou i ulu ai. A paʻa mākou i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻaʻole pono iā mākou, a nānā wale i nā mea he nui a mākou e pono ʻole ai e ulu ana. Ua neʻe ʻo Dāvida ma mua ma mua o kaʻu hana - iā LA. - a ua ukali wau no kahi internship. A ʻano ʻike wale mākou makemake mākou e noʻonoʻo i kahi ala e hoʻomau ai i ka hana pū. Ua maopopo iā mākou makemake mākou i ka haʻi moʻolelo, a ʻo ia ka honua a mākou i makemake ai e komo i loko. No laila like mākou, ʻae, he mea kūpono wale ia no mākou e hui pū, a alualu i ka moeʻuhane. No laila ua hoʻomaka mākou e kākau pū i kahi kākau, a ulu wale ia i loko o mākou e like, maikaʻi, e lilo i duo kiʻi ʻoniʻoni piha. A eia mākou.

Kelly McNeely: No hea ka manaʻo Ke Keiki ma hope o ka puka hele mai mai? No ka mea he manaʻo maikaʻi loa ia me nā hana kupaianaha wale nō a puni - a e komo mākou i kēlā, akā - no hea mai ka manaʻo no kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

ʻO David Charbonier: ʻĀ, mahalo nui, ʻo ia hoʻi ka nui. ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ua puka wale mai ia, manaʻo wau, kēia ʻano hoʻohoka o nā hōʻole a pau a mākou e loaʻa nei i nā palapala ʻē aʻe. No laila ua hoʻoholo mākou makemake mākou e hana i kekahi mea ʻoi loa ka liʻiliʻi, loaʻa i loko, i hiki iā mākou ke hana kūʻokoʻa. ʻO ke kumu keiki ka mea i loaʻa iā mākou e ʻimi i kahi ʻoihana e hiki ke kōkua iā mākou e hoʻokō i kā mākou ʻike. Akā aloha wale mākou - e like me kā Justin i ʻōlelo ai - he poʻe aloha mākou i ke ʻano, a aloha mākou i nā mea leʻaleʻa, no laila ʻo ia wale nō kahi o mākou e lawehala ai a makemake maoli mākou e haʻi i kahi moʻolelo i hoʻokumu ʻia i ka launa aloha.

Kelly McNeely: He mau kumuhana ikaika kona o ka launa aloha, aʻu e manaʻo nei he nani maoli. No laila ʻo Ezra Dewey lāua ʻo Lonnie Chavis, he mea ʻē nō ia. Aia kahi hohonu a me ke oʻo i kā lākou mau hana, he mea kupaianaha maoli nō. He wiwo ʻole ka hana ʻana i hoʻokahi akā ʻelua mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e hali ʻia e nā mea hana keaka keiki, no ka mea ʻO ka Djinn pū kekahi. A aia kahiʻoiaʻiʻo i kēia mau kiʻi ʻelua. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i nā hoʻoholo Ke Keiki ma hope o ka puka a ʻO ka Djinn, a iā lāua ʻelua nā mea hana keaka hōkū?

Justin Powell: ʻAe, ke manaʻo nei au, ua iho maoli ia i - e like me kā David e ʻōlelo nei - pehea mākou e aloha ai i nā moʻolelo weliweli i ka laulā aʻu e manaʻo nei he kikowaena i nā keiki. Hoʻomaopopo iā mākou i ko mākou wā kamaliʻi e ulu ana, ʻike ʻoe, i nā makahiki 90, e like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai ma mua e nānā ana i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me nā mea pono ʻole iā mākou. A ʻike ʻoe, hoʻopaʻa mākou i nā mea like ʻO nā Goona a Canyon Park me Lexie lāua ʻo Tim, a aloha nui kāua i ka ʻike ʻana i kēia mau keiki i nā kūlana pilikia, a like me he mea lā kēia huakaʻi pīhoihoi, nā mea like me Steven Spielberg, ʻo Amblin-esque nui loa. E like me kā mākou makemake mau i ka hana, a no laila ʻo ia ka mea i huki iā mākou e makemake e loaʻa i kēia mau alakaʻi ʻōpio i kā mākou kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻelua. ʻIke wau e like me ke ʻano o Amblin vibe e hele mai ana ma o kahi liʻiliʻi i loko ʻO ka Djinn, no ka mea like paha Ke Keiki ma hope o ka puka Loaʻa iā ia kahi pōuliuli i lalo me ia. Akā ʻaʻole mākou i makemake e ʻike ʻo ia i ka exploitative. Makemake mākou ma laila e kū mau kēlā mau manawa o ka levity a me ka leʻaleʻa. A ʻae, no laila ʻo ia ke ʻano o ke kumu a mākou e ʻumeʻume ai i nā keiki no kēia wehe ʻana i ʻoniʻoni ʻelua a mākou i hana ai.

Kelly McNeely: I kēia manawa, ʻōlelo lākou, ʻike ʻoe, mai hana pū me nā keiki a me nā holoholona. ʻIke nō, ua hōʻoia ʻoe i ka wahaheʻe. Akā he aha kāu ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo e hāʻawi ai i nā luna e hana pū nei me nā mea hana keaka ʻōpio, a e hana pū paha ʻoe me nā holoholona?

ʻO David Charbonier: He kūoʻo maoli kāu i ʻōlelo ai. He moʻolelo kā mākou e hele nei me kahi kikowaena nui i nā holoholona. A like ia, makemake mākou i kahi pilikia. ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ʻo kā mākou ʻōlelo aʻo e noʻonoʻo - makemake wau e like me wai mākou e hāʻawi ai i ka ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo, ke hoʻāʻo nei mākou e ʻike - akā inā mākou e hāʻawi i ka ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo, manaʻo wau e hoʻāʻo ʻole e waiho i kēlā mau mea palena i ke ʻano o nā moʻolelo āu e makemake ai e haʻi. E noʻonoʻo maoli me ka hoʻolālā, e like me pehea ʻoe e hoʻolālā ai i kou mau lā a me kāu papa kuhikuhi, e hoʻāʻo nei e lilo i mea ʻoi loa. E mākaukau maoli me kāu papa inoa pana a pehea ʻoe e hoʻouka aku ai iā ia. 

A e ʻōlelo aku hoʻi wau, ʻike ʻoe, e ʻoiaʻiʻo e pili ana iā ia, ua lohe mākou i nā kamaʻilio he nui e pili ana, hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻolimalima i kahi makahiki 18 e ʻōpio maoli. A manaʻo wale wau ʻaʻole i kūpono ke nānā aku. Manaʻo wau ua hala mākou i nā makahiki he 35 i ke kula kiʻekiʻe i kēia manawa, ʻo ia ka manawa mau, no laila hoʻohui wale ia i kahi ʻoiaʻiʻo. A maopopo iā ʻoe, hāʻawi wale ʻo Lani lāua ʻo Ezra i nā hana keu maikaʻi loa. ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke ʻike i kekahi mea ʻelemakule a i ʻole i ko lākou mau makahiki i hiki ke hāʻawi i kahi hana ʻoiaʻiʻo. No laila manaʻo wau i kēlā ʻano, hana maoli ia no mākou.

Kelly McNeely: He mea kupaianaha lāua ʻelua i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, hana nui ʻolua i kekahi hana me lākou a loaʻa pū kekahi iā lāua. Pehea ʻoe i ʻike ai i kēlā ʻelua?

Justin Powell: Hoʻohui wale nō i ka manaʻo a Dāvida, e ʻike i kahi luna hoʻolei nui loa. A pōmaikaʻi maoli kā mākou i ka loaʻa ʻana o kēlā. Ua lawe mai ʻo Amy Lippens i kēia mea i ka home, ʻo ia ka mea i loaʻa iā Lani lāua ʻo ʻEzera, ua manaʻo ʻo ia i nā manaʻo āpau no ke koena o ka poʻe hana keaka. Mai skimp i kahi luna hoʻolei nui, e ʻike pono ʻike ʻoe i ka mea ʻoi loa loa āu e makemake ai. E like me Amy. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu inā loaʻa ʻo ia, ʻo ia paha, inā ʻo ia, makemake mau mākou e hana pū me ia ma kā mākou kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. No laila, mai lawe aku iā ia mai iā mākou! Akā aia ʻo ia ma waho, inā ʻoe e ʻimi ana i kahi nui. 

E ʻike i kahi luna hoʻolei i maopopo i kāu ʻike. Inā ʻoe e hoʻāʻo e hana pū me nā keiki, e ʻike i kahi luna hoʻolei ʻike i ka ʻike ʻana i nā keiki loea, a e hele maoli nō i ka ʻōpeʻapeʻa no ka ʻimi hohonu a hohonu, no ka mea ʻo ia ke ʻano o ka mea e iho ai. Pono maoli ʻoe e hele ākea me kēia mau hulina a lawe mai i mau keiki i hiki, kahi paʻakikī i kahi moʻohelu kālā e like me kēia. Akā yeah, e Amy - ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu pehea ʻo ia i hana ai - ua hiki iā ia ke huki i kahi lāpaki mai kahi pāpale. Lawe pū ʻo ia i ʻelua mau lāpaki mai ka pāpale. A i ka helu o, ʻike ʻoe, i hana maʻalahi i kā mākou hana, no ka mea, ke loaʻa ʻo ia iā lākou, like mākou, ʻae, ʻae, ʻo ia ka mea a mākou i manaʻo ai ʻo ia ka pahu nui nui loa, ʻike ʻoe, ke loaʻa nei kēia mau keiki loea maoli ʻelua. Akā ma kahi o, aia kekahi pūpū holoʻokoʻa o nā ʻauʻau ʻē aʻe. Akā ʻaʻole nā ​​keiki kekahi o lākou, hiki iā lākou ke lawe mai me kā lākou mau hana. A ʻoiai me nā hola palena, ʻo ia wale nō ke kumu e manaʻo ai ua hiki iā mākou ke loaʻa ka mea i loaʻa iā mākou, no ka mea hiki iā lākou ke hoʻohuli i nā hana ikaika.

Kelly McNeely: Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe iā Amblin a me kēlā mau ʻano kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Ke Keiki ma hope o ka puka ʻano like me ia 80s / 90s vibe iā ia; ʻaʻohe makua, aia kekahi keiki i ka pōpilikia, hoʻokaʻawale loa ia no kēia mau keiki. Aia ka nānā i ka mālama ʻana i kekahi i kekahi, aʻu e manaʻo nei he nani loa. Ua kāhea ka palapala i nā mākua? Ma muli o koʻu aloha ʻaʻole lākou i loko o laila, manaʻo wau he mana nui ia aia lākou āpau ma kā lākou iho, aloha wau i kēlā. 

ʻO David Charbonier: Mahalo a nui no kēia ʻōlelo ʻana. He mea nui kēlā iā mākou. ʻIke ʻoe, i ka wā e hele ana mākou me ia i kakahiaka nui, ʻo ia kahi mea i makemake ai kekahi poʻe e ʻike. Nīnau mau ʻia mākou e like, ʻe, aia i hea nā mākua? He aha ka hana a nā mākua? No ke aha e ʻimi ʻole ai nā mākua iā lākou? A no mākou, e like me yeah, ʻoiai e ʻimi nā mākua iā lākou. Akā aia mākou me Bobby a me Kevin i kēia manawa. Aia mākou i kā lākou kuanaʻike, ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke hilinaʻi i ko lākou mau mākua e hoʻōla ʻia. Pono lākou e hilinaʻi iā lākou iho a me kā lākou aloha a me ko lākou koa. A maopopo iā ʻoe, ʻo lākou nā underdogs. 

Manaʻo wau ʻo ia ka mea e hoʻonāukiuki ai i kekahi moʻolelo hoihoi, ke loaʻa iā ʻoe nā huapalapala i hoʻowahāwahā ʻia a ʻano kipaku iā lākou. A ʻo ia nō ka mea a mākou e makemake ai e hana me ka moʻolelo, ʻaʻole mākou i makemake e pili ana ia, ʻike ʻoe, kahi hoʻolālā ʻano detective a i ʻole kekahi mea e like me ke alualu ʻana i ko lākou wahi a me ka ʻimi ʻana iā lākou i lalo. Makemake mākou e pili ka hapanui iā lākou e hoʻopakele iā lākou iho.

Kelly McNeely: He koho ikaika loa kēlā, no ka mea, kau hou ia i nā mea nui a pau iā lākou. Manaʻo maoli ia ʻaʻohe mea ʻē aʻe i laila e kōkua iā lākou. ʻO ia wale nō e pili ana iā lāua ʻelua a me ka ikaika i loaʻa iā lāua i loko o ko lāua noho aloha ʻana. Kupaianaha maoli nō ia. Ua haʻi mua ʻoe i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻaʻole pono e nānā i kou wā ʻōpio. No laila ʻano hoihoi wau, ma waena ʻO ka Djinn a Ke Keiki ma hope o ka puka a ma ka laulā wale nō, he aha kāu mau hopena weliweli a me nā hoʻoulu?

Justin Powell: Auē koʻu, he nui loa kā mākou. Ke kuhi nei wau i ka hala i ke au, manaʻo wau e hoʻomaka ana i nā makahiki 70, he mau mana ko mākou mai ka like, Nā ʻāʻī, Halloween, ka mea, ka ʻōlinolino - akāka - He Poʻomanaʻo ma ke alanui Elm… A ʻaʻole manaʻo ka hapa nui o kēia poʻe i kēia weliweli i kēlā me kēia, akā Canyon Park he mana nui loa ia no mākou - aloha nui mākou iā Lex a me Tim, aloha mau ʻoe i ka pilikia ke hui pū ʻoe me lākou. ʻO ka Descent mai nā makahiki 2000. A i kēia mau lā manaʻo wau Mai hanu ua hoʻohuli ʻia iā mākou. A no laila he nui wale lākou, nui ka makaʻu a mākou e aloha wale ai a manaʻo wau i kekahi manawa ua hele iki mākou i kahi kai. ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke kāohi, like mākou, ʻeā, ʻo kēia wale nō ko mākou manawa kūpono e hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. No laila e hoʻolei wale mākou i nā mea āpau i laila. No laila he nui nā kūmole a mākou e hana ai, manaʻo wau i kā mākou mau ʻoniʻoni ʻelua, kahi a mākou e hoʻāʻo ai e kāhea hou i kā mākou mea e hiki mai ana, akā e hoʻokau paha mākou i nā mea i loko.

A laila e hoʻi hou ana, ʻo Hitchcock nā mea āpau - aloha mākou i kēlā ʻano kānalua. A ua hoʻāʻo maoli mākou e hilinaʻi i loko o kēlā Ke Keiki ma hope o ka puka, mahalo nui mākou i ka kānalua ma luna, ʻike ʻoe, ka hana ʻino a me ka huhū, ʻoiai aia kekahi mau kolohe, akā makemake mākou e popo maoli ia ke hiki mai. No laila, ua ʻike wau lōʻihi loa ka makani, manaʻo wau e hiki iā māua ke hele no kahi manawa lōʻihi e pili ana i kā mākou mana a me nā mea -

ʻO David Charbonier: Ua poina iā ʻoe nā mea nui ʻelua - Gremlins a Keiki Play. Loaʻa iā mākou kahi laina mai Keiki Play i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. 

Justin Powell: ʻOiaʻiʻo. ʻIke maoli wau e like me ka nui o kā mākou mana i nā 80s. Nui ka weliweli mai nā 80s a mākou e aloha nui ai.

Kelly McNeely:  A ʻo [80s weliweli] ʻano mea nui pū kekahi, no ka mea manaʻo wau ʻo ia ka manawa e hoʻomaka maoli ai ke ʻano o ke ʻano, a loaʻa maoli i kahi mea hoʻolohe a loaʻa ka traction e like me ka nui o ka ʻike, a maikaʻi loa ia. I kēia manawa, ua ʻike wau i kahi pepili bipper kikoʻī loa ma ke kaʻa, a i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni me nā poʻomanaʻo o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, manaʻo maikaʻi ʻia pū kekahi. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i kēlā?

Justin Powell: ʻAe, makemake wau, no mākou, ʻano maʻalahi mākou i nā mea āpau i kā mākou moʻolelo, manaʻo wau. A i kēia, loaʻa iā mākou nā mea ʻelua, ʻeā? Manaʻo wau he mea weliweli, ʻo ia hoʻi ka ʻano weliweli, ke kiʻi nei ʻoe i ke ola a me nā mea e hoʻopili ana i ka poʻe a i ʻole iā ʻoe ma ke ʻano he mea paʻi kiʻi, ʻike ʻoe, hoʻokomo ʻoe i kēlā i kāu mea noʻeau. No laila maopopo leʻa, ua hoʻopilikia loa ʻia mākou e kēlā a ke hoʻopili ʻia nei mākou e, maopopo iā ʻoe, ke kūlana o nā hihia i ka honua. Akā hoʻi, he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni kēia kahi e loaʻa ai kahi hōʻike ma o, me ka ʻole o ke kamaʻilio ʻana, i kahi manawa palena palena ʻole. Makemake mākou e ʻōwili koke i ka kinipōpō. ʻAʻole makemake mākou i nā moʻolelo kaumaha i ke kamaʻilio, manaʻo mākou, ʻike ʻoe, i kēia mau hanana, ʻaʻole e noho ana ka poʻe e kamaʻilio a hōʻike ana. ʻIke ʻoe, neʻe wale lākou a ke hoʻāʻo nei lākou e pakele a i ʻole nā ​​mea a lākou e pono ai. A no laila makemake mākou i ʻano noho e like me ka ʻoiaʻiʻo i nā kumu a me nā hana i hiki. 

A no laila ua komo mākou i kēia kūlana kahi like, maikaʻi, ʻae, ʻike mākou makemake mākou i kēia mau keiki ʻelua i ʻaihue ʻia. Akā ʻo kekahi o lākou e ʻano waiho ʻia ma hope. Akā no ke aha lākou e kāʻili ʻia ai, ke waiho ʻia kekahi o lākou? ʻ, ʻē, malia paha makemake wale lākou i hoʻokahi, a lawe lākou i kekahi i waho o nā kūlana. ʻIke ʻoe, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke waiho i nā mea hōʻike ma hope. ʻĀ, no ke aha kēlā? ʻ,, ʻē, ke kumu no ko lākou makemake i kēia keiki no ka mea ua kūpono ʻo ia i ka lāhui kanaka a nā mea kāʻili e makemake ai. A no laila pau wale kēlā mau mea i ke alakaʻi ʻana i ka pono e kanu i nā ʻanoʻano no kēlā, maalea, a ʻo kahi pepili kahi ala maikaʻi loa e kanu i kēlā ʻanoʻano. Me ka ʻole o kēlā, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole ʻoe e maopopo i ke kumu o ko Bobby waiho ʻana i loko o ka pahu. ʻAʻole pono ʻoe e hoʻowahāwahā iā ia, a i ʻole ʻaʻole maopopo i ke kumu e hoʻowahāwahā ai ka poʻe kāʻili iā ia. A no laila, me he mea lā he kuleana wale nō ia, a i ʻole e hana ana i kahi ʻōlelo - kahi e hōʻike nei - akā i ka manawa like, ke holomua maoli nei i ka hoʻolālā. No laila, ua pepehi mākou i ʻelua mau manu me ka pōhaku hoʻokahi. He ʻōlelo weliweli kēlā, akā yeah. 

Kelly McNeely: He laʻana maikaʻi loa ia o "mai haʻi iaʻu, hōʻike mai iaʻu" a manaʻo wau he koho ikaika maoli kēlā ma laila. No laila he aha aʻe nā kāne? 

ʻO David Charbonier: Um, ke manaʻo nei wau, lana ka manaʻo i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻē aʻe. He ala paʻakikī loa ia, e like me, ʻōlelo mau lākou, ke hana ʻoe i kāu kiʻi ʻoniʻoni mua, maʻalahi ka lawe ʻana i kāu mea aʻe mai ka honua. A ua like kēlā ʻano me kahi kaʻao. ʻIke ʻoe, ua hana mākou i ʻoniʻoni ʻelua. A ʻo ka hapakolu e like ka paʻakikī o ka haʻalele ʻana i ka honua e like me ka mea mua. Lana ko mākou manaʻo ua ʻike ʻoe, hiki i nā mea ke holo pono. Lana koʻu manaʻo. Nui kā mākou mau moʻolelo hoihoi, manaʻo mākou, i ke ʻano a mākou e makemake ai e haʻi. Me nā keiki a me nā holoholona aʻe, lana ka manaʻo. Akā yeah, aloha wale mākou i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli, e nānā ana iā lākou, a e piʻi mai ana me nā moʻolelo. A hauʻoli wale mākou i ka hopena o kēia i kēia pule.