ʻO Jordan Graham's Sator He moʻolelo hauʻoli a lewa ka lewa o kahi daimonio e hoʻopuehu ana i kahi ʻohana, a - i kahi ʻano hoihoi - ua hoʻoulu ʻia e nā hanana maoli.

Ua hala ʻo Graham i 7 mau makahiki i ka hana ʻana Sator, lawelawe ma ke ʻano he alakaʻi, mea kākau, cinematographer, haku mele, mea hana, a hoʻoponopono. ʻO ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ukali i kahi ʻohana hūnā e noho ana i kahi ululāʻau e ʻūlū ʻia a hana ʻia e ka diabolō pohihihi ʻo Sator, a (e like me kaʻu i aʻo ai) ma muli o nā moʻolelo i haʻi ʻia e ko Graham kupuna wahine ponoʻī e pili ana i kāna mōʻaukala me kēia mea. 

ʻO nā ninaninau maoli ma ka papakaumaka me ko Graham kupunawahine lohi e hōʻike nei i nā kikoʻī o kāna mau hanana ponoʻī me Sator, a hōʻike i kāna puke pai pilikino a me nā kākau aunoa Ua kamaʻilio wau me Graham e aʻo hou aʻe e pili ana i kēia moʻolelo pilikino hohonu a me kāna mau lima, hohonu, aʻo-ʻo-ʻoe-hele e hana i kēia moody, weliweli indie weliweli. 

Kelly McNeely: Sator maopopo leʻa he papahana pilikino loa ia nāu, hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i kēlā, a e pili ana i ka mōʻaukala o kou kupunawahine me ka hilahila me kēia mea?

ʻO Jordan Graham: ʻAʻole i manaʻo ʻia koʻu tūtū wahine e ʻāpana o kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. ʻOiai wau e hoʻohana nei i kona hale ma ke ʻano he wahi, ua hoʻoholo wau e waiho iā ia i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma ke ʻano he comeo wikiwiki. A laila ʻano lālā ia mai laila. E like ana ka comeo me kahi ʻano improvisational, a inā ʻaʻole wau e hoʻohana, a laila maikaʻi. A loaʻa iaʻu kekahi o nā mea hana keaka, ʻo Pete - hoʻokani ʻo ia iā Pete i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, he hoa aloha ʻo ia naʻu - ua haʻi wau iā ia e hele ana ʻoe i laila, e hālāwai ʻoe me koʻu tūtū wahine ma ka kāmera, a ʻo ʻoe ' e hoʻokohukohu ana he moʻopuna a e ʻōlelo ʻo ia e pili ana i ka ʻuhane. 

No laila ua hele ʻo ia i loko a nīnau iā ia, maopopo iā ʻoe, ua lohe wau aia he ʻuhane a puni. A laila ua hoʻomaka ʻo ia e kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā leo i kona poʻo. A kahi mea i kapa ʻia he kākau aunoa, ka mea aʻu i lohe ʻole ai e pili ana i koʻu ola. ʻAʻole ʻo ia i kaʻanalike mai iaʻu ma mua, a makemake wale ʻo ia e kaʻana like iā ia e pana ana mākou. 

A laila hoʻi wau i ka home a hana i kahi noiʻi, a laila hoʻoholo e makemake wau e hoʻohui i kēia i ka hiki ke hiki i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. A no laila ua kākau hou wau i ka palapala e hana i ka mea aʻu i kī ai i ka hana, a laila hoʻi a hana i nā hiʻohiʻona improvisational hou aʻe e hoʻāʻo e hoʻopuka i nā kākau aunoa a me nā leo. A i kēlā me kēia manawa e hana mākou i kahi hiʻohiʻona me ia, pono wau e kū a kākau hou i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e hoʻāʻo e hana pehea e hana ai, no ka mea ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi i koʻu tūtū wahine i ka mea e ʻōlelo ai, a ʻaʻohe oʻu manaʻo i kāna mea. e ʻōlelo ana. A ʻo ka nui o nā mea āna e ʻōlelo ai, ʻaʻole holo pono ia no ka moʻolelo aʻu e hoʻāʻo nei e haʻi. 

Akā i koʻu wā i ka hana post - ke pau wau i ke kī ʻana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - ua maikaʻi ʻole ka dementia no koʻu kupuna wahine a na ko mākou ʻohana e waiho iā ia i kahi home mālama. A ke hoʻomaʻemaʻe nei wau i kona keʻena hope a me ka lumi hope, a ua loaʻa iaʻu ʻelua pahu, kahi o kāna mau kākau kākau pilikino kekahi. No laila ʻike ʻoe i kēlā, [hōʻike ʻo ia iaʻu i kekahi o kāna puke noke] akā aia kahi pahu i piha me lākou. No laila ua loaʻa wau i kēlā mau mea āpau a laila ʻike wau i kahi puke pai o kāna kākau ʻana i kona ola - ma luna o ʻekolu mau mahina - me Sator, he 1000 ʻaoʻao puke pai. Ua hui ʻo ia me Sator i Iulai 1968, a laila ʻekolu mau mahina ma hope, ua pau ʻo ia i ka haukapila psychiatric ma muli o kāna pulakaumaka me ia. A no laila ke loaʻa iaʻu kēia puke pai, ua like wau me ka maikaʻi, makemake wau e hoʻokomo iā Sator i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. E like me kēia he manaʻo maikaʻi loa ia, akā manaʻo wau ua hana wau i ke kī ʻana i kēlā manawa. 

No laila ua heihei wau i koʻu tūtū wahine, a he heihei kūʻē ia i ka manawa no ka mea e hoʻomaka ana ke dementia, a no laila ua kiʻi wau iā ia e kamaʻilio e pili ana iā ia, a laila ʻo ka manawa hope loa i kiʻi ai wau iā ia e kamaʻilio e pili ana iā ia hiki ʻole iā ia ke e ʻōlelo aku i kekahi mea. A yeah, no laila ʻo ia ka ʻano o ka mōʻaukala ma hope o ia.

Kelly McNeely: He moʻolelo pili loa ia, pili pilikino, a hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi. He aha kāu e makemake ai e haʻi i kēlā moʻolelo, he aha kāu e makemake ai e luʻu i loko Sator iki aʻe, a me kēia manaʻo o Sator?

ʻO Jordan Graham: No laila ua hele wau i kēia kiʻi e hoʻāʻo nei e hana i kahi mea kūikawā, no ka mea ua hana wau i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni āpau iaʻu, no laila makemake wau e hana i kekahi mea a hana ia i ke ala kūʻokoʻa loa i hiki. A ka moʻolelo i loaʻa iaʻu, ua kākau wau i kēlā ʻehiku makahiki i hala aku nei - a i ka wā i hoʻomaka ai wau i kēia mea - no laila ʻaʻole wau e hoʻomanaʻo maoli i ka moʻolelo kumu. Akā ʻaʻole ia ʻokoʻa. 

No laila i ka wā i hoʻomaka ai koʻu kupuna wahine e ʻōlelo e pili ana i kēia, like ia, ʻe, he mea kaʻu maoli hoihoi i aneʻi. A me ke kākau lima ʻana, ʻaʻole au i lohe e pili ana i kēlā, a i ʻole ʻike ʻia i kēlā ma kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma mua. A inā wau e hana nei i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i kahi ala pilikino, e like me ka hana ʻana i nā mea āpau iaʻu iho, a laila me ka loaʻa ʻana o kahi moʻolelo pilikino, manaʻo wau e pili maoli ana ka poʻe me kēlā mea hou aʻe. A laila kekahi, he ala maikaʻi loa kēia e hoʻomanaʻo ai i koʻu kupunawahine, manaʻo wau. No laila ʻo ia ke kumu o koʻu makemake e hele i laila, e hana i kahi mea ʻokoʻa.

Kelly McNeely: A ʻo ka kākau akomi a kou kupunawahine i hala i hiki ke hāʻawi ʻia i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, he mea maikaʻi ia. Pehea ka nui o ka moʻolelo i hana ʻia me ka nui o kāna mau moʻolelo maoli, a hiki i ke kiʻi leo a me ke kiʻi wikiō, ehia o ia waihona a pehea ka nui i haku ʻia no ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

ʻO Jordan Graham: ʻO nā mea āpau a kuʻu tūtū wahine i ʻōlelo ai he ʻoiaʻiʻo iā ia, ua manaʻoʻiʻo ʻo ia i nā mea āpau āna i ʻōlelo ai. No laila ʻaʻole wau i haʻi aku iā ia i kekahi mea e ʻōlelo, ʻo ia wale nō. ʻO kekahi o nā mea āna i ʻōlelo ai he ʻoiaʻiʻo. E like me, ua kamaʻilio ʻo ia e pili ana i koʻu kupuna kāne, a ua make koʻu kupuna kāne i ka maʻi ʻaʻai pūhaka. A ʻōlelo ʻo ia - mau manawa - ke kī ʻana mākou i ka hoʻoholo a koʻu kupuna kāne e ala aʻe, ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia ua pau, ua mākaukau ʻo ia e make, ala aʻe ʻo ia, hele i waho o ka hale a moe i ka mauʻu a make ʻo ia. Ka mea i hana ʻole ʻia. Akā ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia i nā manawa he nui. A like wau, ma hea mai kēlā i kou manaʻo, a laila e hoʻāʻo nei e noʻonoʻo pehea e hoʻoponopono ai i kēlā a hoʻohana i kēlā i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e hana i ka manaʻo me ka hoʻolālā a me nā mea ʻole. 

A laila me nā kiʻi i hoʻopaʻa ʻia, he hopena hauʻoli ia. ʻO kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni kahi pūpū o nā pōpilikia hauʻoli liʻiliʻi. Aia kekahi hanana i hope i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, a ke hoʻāʻo nei au e ʻike i ka mea āu e makemake ai e kī. A laila loaʻa i koʻu makuahine kahi kiʻi o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni home kahiko i hoʻohuli ʻia i DVD, a ke hele wale nei wau ma o lākou. ʻAʻole wau e ʻimi ana i kekahi mea e hoʻohana ai i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ke nānā wale nei wau iā lākou. A laila ua ʻike wau i kahi hanana lā hānau - he lā hānau maoli i loko o ka hale o koʻu tūtū wahine - a like ke ʻano o ka hale me kā mākou e kī ana. 

A ʻo ka mea nui a kuʻu kupuna wahine ma kekahi ʻaoʻao, ʻo koʻu kupuna kāne ma kēlā ʻaoʻao, a ʻo ka mea e hana nei i ka waena i waiho wale ʻia naʻu e hana i kaʻu hanana ponoʻī. No laila ua hele wau i waho a kūʻai wau i ka pahu paʻi kiʻi like, kūʻai wau i nā lepe like, hana wau i keke nānā like a me nā makana e like me nā makana like, a ua hiki iaʻu ke hana i kaʻu hiʻohiʻona ponoʻī e pili ana i nā kiʻi wikiō home maoli mai 30 mau makahiki i hala aku nei. 

Ma muli o ka hiki iaʻu ke ʻike iaʻu iho i kēlā kiʻi - a ʻaʻole ia ma ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ʻokiʻoki wau a puni iaʻu - akā ua like wau me ʻewalu paha. He huikau o nā manawa like ʻole i loko o kēlā hanana hoʻokahi, he huikau like ia ma waena o e like me ʻelima mau makahiki. A ʻo kēlā i kēlā ʻano, inā ʻoe e hoʻolohe i ka hope, hiki iā ʻoe ke lohe i koʻu tūtū wahine e kamaʻilio ana e pili ana i nā ʻuhane ʻino a ʻo ia wale nō ke kamaʻilio wale nei e pili ana i kēlā mau makahiki 90.

Kelly McNeely: Pēlā nō ʻoe i hana nui ai no kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ua ʻōlelo ʻoe ma kahi o ʻehiku mau makahiki e hana ai i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a ua hana ʻoe i kēlā me kēia hana ma hope o ke kāmela ke maopopo iaʻu ke kūpono, me ke kūkulu ʻana i ke keʻena. He aha ka hana nui loa loa iā ʻoe i ka hana ʻana Sator? 

ʻO Jordan Graham: ʻO ia kaʻu… * kaniʻuhū * he nui loa. Kuhi wau i nā mea i ʻai nui iaʻu, nā mea i hoʻohaʻahaʻa iaʻu i ka ʻeleʻele, e hoʻāʻo nei e ʻike i ka moʻolelo o koʻu tūtū wahine ʻoiai mākou e kī ana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. No ka mea he moʻolelo hou kaʻu e like me kaʻu i haʻi aku ai iā ʻoe, a ke hoʻāʻo wale nei e ʻike pehea e hana ai. Ke hoʻokele nei iaʻu i kahi mauʻu liʻiliʻi ma laila no kekahi manawa. 

ʻO ka mea i loaʻa iaʻu - a ʻaʻole ia he paio, he paʻakikī ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni āpau. ʻAʻole wau e ʻōlelo i ka paʻakikī o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, he maoli ia, hoʻoluhi loa. A no laila ke hana nei ka mea luhi loa i ke kani i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. No laila ʻo nā mea āpau āu e lohe ai ma waho o ka ʻōlelo a koʻu tūtū wahine, ua hana wau i ka hana ma hope. No laila, kēlā me kēia, e like me, nā ʻāpana lole, kēlā me kēia neʻe ʻana o ka lehelehe, nā mea āpau aʻu e hana ai ma hope. A hoʻokahi makahiki a ʻehā mau mahina kaʻu i hoʻopaʻa ai e hoʻopaʻa wale i ka leo. A ʻo ia nō paha ka hapa nui loa o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Akā hou, luhi maoli nō ia. 

No laila ke ʻōlelo paʻakikī ʻoe? ʻAe, ka leo. ʻAe, manaʻo wau kaʻu pane kēlā. No ka mea laila nui loa. He paʻakikī kēlā. 

Kelly McNeely: Aia paha ma laila kahi mea āu e, ai, e aʻo ai i kahi mākau hou i mea e hoʻopau ai i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

ʻO Jordan Graham: ʻAe, ke hana nei au i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni pōkole a me nā wikiō mele a me nā mea no 21 mau makahiki i kēia manawa. Akā ʻaʻole wau i hoʻohana i nā mea hana i kēia mea maikaʻi, a ʻaʻole wau i loaʻa i nā kukui kiʻi ʻoniʻoni maoli ma mua. No laila ke aʻo ʻana pehea e hana ai me nā kukui kiʻi ʻoniʻoni maoli, ʻae, he mea hou kēlā. Akā manaʻo wau ʻo ka mea nui loa o ke aʻo ʻana i ka hana post, color grading the film. No laila ʻaʻole wau i hoʻohana i nā polokalamu e kala i ka kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma mua. No laila pono wau e aʻo i kēlā, a he 1000 mau hola e kala ai i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. A laila me ka hoʻolālā kani. ʻAʻole wau i hana e like me kēia ma mua. ʻO ka mea maʻamau mai ka kāmela mai a loaʻa paha iaʻu nā hopena kani mai nā kumuwaiwai ʻē aʻe ʻaʻole naʻu. Akā makemake wau e hoʻopaʻa i nā mea āpau iaʻu iho. No laila ʻae, pono wau e aʻo i kēlā ʻano. 

A laila ka polokalamu, pono wau e aʻo pehea e hana ai i ka leo 5.1, a - inā ʻoe i ʻike i ka screener, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke lohe i kēlā, lohe wale ʻoe i ka leo hoʻokani - akā pono wau e kāwili me 5.1 a aʻo i kēlā polokalamu. . ʻAe, ʻaʻole wau i hoʻohana i kekahi o ia polokalamu ma mua. ʻOiai ʻo ka polokalamu hoʻoponopono aʻu i hoʻohana ai e hoʻoponopono i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ʻaʻole au i hoʻohana ma mua. Ma mua o kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e hoʻohana ana wau i kahi mea ʻē aʻe. No laila, ua aʻo ka mea āpau i koʻu wā e hele ai, inā pono wau e hana i nā aʻo aʻo YouTube - ʻaʻole no ka hana, ʻaʻole wau i hoʻohana i nā ʻōlelo aʻo e pili ana i ka noʻonoʻo a pehea wau e makemake ai e nānā - akā pehea e hoʻohana ai i kahi mea. 

Kelly McNeely: I ke kamaʻilio ʻana no ke kani, maopopo iaʻu ua helu ʻoe Sator pū kekahi. No laila he aha ke kaʻina hana no ka loaʻa ʻana o ia kani kū hoʻokahi?

ʻO Jordan Graham: He mau mea kōkua kaʻu e puni ai [ʻakaʻaka]. Akā he ipu wale nō ia a me nā ipu hao, nā nati a me nā hoʻopaʻa. ʻAʻole wau he mea hoʻokani pila, no laila ke hana nei wau i nā hopena kani. A laila he kīkā bass kaʻu, ua kūʻai au i kahi kika kīkēkē liʻiliʻi a hoʻopili aku i loko o ke kamepiula. A laila loaʻa iaʻu kahi kakaka violin a ke hana nei wau i nā hopena kani me ia. No laila ʻo ia nō. ʻO ia nā pono hana āpau e pono ai, ʻo ia wale nō nā mea āu e ʻike ai i kāu lumi kuke.

Kelly McNeely: He avʻo ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ery, me ka maka a me ke tonally he aha kāu mau mea hoʻouluulu Sator?

ʻO Jordan Graham: ʻAe, ʻoiai wau e kākau hou, ʻike nō wau i ka vibe a me ke ʻano o kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma mua o ka hele ʻana i loko. No nā mea hoʻouluulu, a hiki i ka nani, ʻOiaʻiʻo keʻokoʻa. Ke kau mua o ʻOiaʻiʻo keʻokoʻa he mea nui ia, a ʻo ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻO Rover he mea nui kekahi. Ma kahi o ka hoʻoulu e hana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni maoli? ʻO Jeremy Saulnier's ʻŌpala polū, akā paha no, e like me, ka hoʻomaka o kēlā. Ua ʻike anei ʻoe i kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

Kelly McNeely: Aloha au i kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni!

ʻO Jordan Graham: No laila he mea hoʻoikaika nui kēlā. Ua hana ʻo ia i nā hana he nui ma kāna iho ma kēlā, a i kēlā manawa, manaʻo wau ua hana ʻo ia no kahi waihona haʻahaʻa haʻahaʻa loa loa, ke ʻike wau he - haʻahaʻa nō ia - akā ʻaʻole ia e like me kaʻu i manaʻo ai, ʻo ia hana ia no ka mea he nui hou aku. Akā like pū, mālie hoʻi ka hoʻomaka o kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, a ʻaʻole kamaʻilio pinepine ka mea nui, a no laila ʻo ia ka mea i hoʻoulu ʻia e hele i loko. mea hoʻoulu manaʻo, e like, Ma lalo o ka ʻIli he mea nui.

Kelly McNeely: ʻIke maoli wau i ka ʻOiaʻiʻo keʻokoʻa nani ia. Makemake au i kēlā kau mua loa. ʻO ia kaʻu mea punahele.

ʻO Jordan Graham: ʻĀ, ʻē. ʻIke au iā ia e like me ʻehiku mau manawa i kēia manawa. A ke kamaʻilio nei wau e pili ana i kēlā kau i kēia mau nīnauele, a makemake wau e nānā hou. Makemake au e hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma Louisiana a loaʻa i kēlā ʻano mea hoʻonani. Aloha wale wau. ʻAe, maikaʻi loa kēlā hōʻike.

Kelly McNeely: I kēia manawa no kaʻu nīnau hope loa, ʻaʻole wau e haʻi i nā inoa, no ka mea ʻaʻole wau makemake e loaʻa nā mea hōʻino iā haʻi. Akā maopopo iaʻu ua hoʻomālamalama kekahi o nā mea hana i kāna ʻumiʻumi i ke ahi?

ʻO Jordan Graham: ʻAe, ʻaʻole kēlā koʻu manaʻo. Akā ua kāhea ʻo ia iaʻu e like me hoʻokahi pule ma mua a ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia, makemake wau e puhi i koʻu ʻumiʻumi no ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ua hala wau i ʻehiku mau mahina e ulu ana i kēia mea, a makemake wau e ʻā. A ua like wau, ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole e hana ʻia, weliweli loa kēlā. A laila e noʻonoʻo ana wau e pili ana, a he kumuhana koʻikoʻi ke ahi i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Ua like wau, maikaʻi loa inā hana mākou i kēlā. No laila hele mai ʻo ia. 

ʻO ia koʻu lā nui loa ma ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. ʻEkolu mau kānaka i kōkua iaʻu ma ia lā. Ua kī wau no 120 mau lā, ʻo ka hapanui o ka manawa ʻo wau wale nō me hoʻokahi a ʻelua paha mea hana keaka, a laila makemake wau i nā lā he 10 kahi e kōkua ai kekahi kanaka iaʻu me kekahi mau hana maʻamau. A laila i kēlā lā, he ʻekolu wau mau kānaka e pono ai iaʻu e kōkua iaʻu me kēlā. 

A no laila, ua hoʻāʻo mākou i ka hoʻomālamalama ʻana i kāna ʻumiʻumi, akā ua kō i ke koko ʻaʻole ia e ʻā, no laila pono wau e hele i ka wai māmā a kāwili i kēlā mea i kona alo, a aia kekahi me kahi paipa, a ʻo kekahi ma laila e hoʻomālamalama iā ia. A laila hoʻā i ke ahi. Ua hoʻomālamalama ʻo ia i ʻelua mau manawa, a aia kēlā mau kiʻi ʻelua i loko o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. 

Kelly McNeely: ʻO ia ka hoʻokō.

Sator puka i waho kikohoʻe ma ʻAmelika Hema mai 1091 Nā kiʻi ma Pepeluali 9th, 2021. No ka mea hou aku ma Sator, Bus maanei.

Sinopsis kūhelu:
Ua hūnā ʻia i kahi home ululāʻau neoneo a ʻoi aku ma mua o nā koena palaho o ka wā i hala, ua wāwahi ʻia kahi ʻohana haki e kahi make kupua. ʻO Adamu, alakaʻi ʻia e kahi ʻano makaʻu o ka makaʻu, ʻimi i nā pane wale nō e ʻike ʻaʻole lākou wale nō; he mea hoʻopūpaka ʻo ka noho ʻana o ka inoa ʻo Sator e nānā ana i kona ʻohana, e hoʻohuli liʻiliʻi ana iā lākou āpau i mau makahiki i ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e koi iā lākou.