Ua ʻōlelo ʻo HP Lovecraft ʻo ka makaʻu i ka mea ʻike ʻole ʻia kekahi o nā makaʻu hohonu a ʻeleʻele loa o ke kanaka. ʻO ko mākou noʻonoʻo he nīnau maoli a ʻaʻole hiki ke ʻike i nā pane e waimaka iā mākou. ʻO ia ke kumu e hele pinepine ai nā ʻano pohihihi a me ka weliweli. ʻO ka kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli sci-fi e hiki mai ana Ka pale ʻōlelo hoʻohiki i nā mea ʻino a me nā enigmas ʻē aʻe.

"Ka pale Ua ulana ia i lalo o ka weliweli a me ka ʻepekema moʻolelo i loko o kahi moʻolelo weliweli e pili ana i kahi kahuna i hoʻomaha (O'Bryan) nāna i hoʻomalu i kahi ʻōpio Amish holo (Kennedy) mai kahi ʻino geomagnetic hoʻoulu ʻana i ka aurora, e wehe wale i kāna hana hoʻohaʻahaʻa manawa i kahi pohihihi formative mai. kona hala.

Ua kamaʻilio wau me ke alakaʻi/mea kākau ʻo Cameron Beyl ka mea nāna i hana i ka papahana ʻatikala wikiō Nā Luna Hoʻokele a me ka mea hana ʻo Kyle F. Andrews (ʻO nā mea hoʻokūkū hoʻokūkū, kahi i kapa ʻia ʻo Fairneck) e kūkākūkā i ka papahana i nā kikoʻī hou aku. Eia kekahi, ua nīnauele au i nā alakaʻi o ke kiʻi ʻo Rebekah Kennedy (ʻElua Witches, Station 19) a me Sean O'Bryan (Ua hāʻule ʻo Rust Creek, Olympus), Ka pale ua hoʻolālā ʻia no kahi hoʻokuʻu mua o 2023.

He aha kou hope? No hea mai ʻoe, he aha kou hoihoi i ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni?

KAMERON: Ua ulu au ma Portland, OR i ka makahiki 90 a me ka 2000 mua, kahi i hoʻoikaika nui ai ka ua mau i kaʻu mau proclivities ma ke ʻano he keiki i loko. Mai koʻu wā ʻōpiopio, ua huki maoli au i ka moʻolelo o nā ʻano like ʻole— ka hana ʻana ma ke kahua, ke kākau ʻana i nā moʻolelo liʻiliʻi, ke kaha kiʻi moʻolelo, a me nā mea a pau. Leʻaleʻa mau wau i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni, akā ʻaʻole lākou i lilo i mea koʻikoʻi o koʻu ola a hiki i koʻu lawe ʻana i ka camcorder ʻohana a hoʻomaka wau e hana i kaʻu mau mea ponoʻī me nā keiki kaiāulu. ʻO ka nui o nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni aʻu i ʻike ai, a ʻoi aku ka nui o koʻu aʻo ʻana e pili ana i ke ʻano o ka hana ʻia ʻana, ʻoi aku ka nui o koʻu aloha i ka ʻoihana holoʻokoʻa. I koʻu komo ʻana i ke kula kiʻekiʻe a me ke kulanui, hoʻomaka wau e hānai i kēlā ikehu DIY/bohemian i ʻike ʻia ʻo Portland - he lewa hoʻoikaika e hoʻomaopopo mau nei i kaʻu hana i kēia lā.

KYLE: No kekahi mau wahi au, ma muli o ka mea e nīnau mai ana. Ua hānau ʻia au ma New Hampshire, noho au ma Iowa a me Wisconsin, a hele i ke kula kiʻekiʻe ma Massachusetts. Noʻu, ʻaʻohe manawa i makaʻu ʻole au i ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni – ʻo nā hoʻomanaʻo mua loa e pili ana i ke kipa ʻana i ka Kalanaha o nā moeʻuhane, e nana ana i ka Muppet Movie i ka haukapila kahi i hānau ʻia ai koʻu kaikuahine, a e moe ana i ka pō e nānā i ka Oscars me koʻu makuahine. ʻIke loa, ua hoʻopau wau i ka hana ma kahi hale kūʻai wikiō i ke kula kiʻekiʻe, ʻo ia kaʻu i hoʻomaka maoli ai e komo i ka hana hana a me ke kākau ʻana, a pehea paha wau i pau ai i ke Kulanui ʻo Emerson kahi aʻu i hālāwai ai me Cam (hele Lions).

He aha nā mea hoʻoikaika no The Veil?

KAMERON: Loaʻa kahi ākea ākea o nā mea hoʻoikaika no KA PAHU, mai nā moʻolelo kupua ahi aʻu i lohe ai i koʻu wā kamaliʻi, i ka hanu ʻana i nā manaʻo noʻonoʻo ma ka pūnaewele e pili ana i ka mea e hiki mai ana i kā mākou hui hilinaʻi ʻenehana i ka wā o ka ʻino nui o ka lā a i ʻole EMP. Ma ke ʻano ʻano, ʻo ke ʻano o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e like me Robert Eggers '"ʻO ka Witch", a me Paul Schrader's "Hoʻoponopono mua"ʻo kā mākou kumu kuhikuhi nui, ʻoiai ʻo Andrew Patterson"Ka Vast Of Night” i lawelawe ʻia ma ke ʻano he alakaʻi no ka hoʻokō ʻana i kahi ʻāpana ʻano manaʻo kiʻekiʻe ma kahi kālā haʻahaʻa. Ua kiʻi nui mākou i nā manaʻo hoʻoikaika mai nā pāpaho ʻē aʻe ma waho o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni—e like me ka puke moʻolelo a Mark Z. Danielewski "House of Leaves" a me nā kiʻi pena a Jake Wood Evans.

KYLE: Ma ke ʻano he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni KA PAHU ʻo ia ka pēpē a Cam. ʻO koʻu wahi i hele mai ai ʻo ia ke kōkua ʻana i ka hoʻomaʻemaʻe ʻana i nā wahi maikaʻi o ka moʻolelo. Ma luna o kekahi mau kikoʻī ua kaomi mākou i kekahi mau koho i hoʻololi maoli i ka wā i hiki ai mākou i ka hana. Ma ke ʻano he hui, ʻike maoli mākou i ka hauʻoli nui i ka lewa a me ka nīnau ʻana i nā nīnau i ka lehulehu, a ke manaʻo nei wau ua paʻi maoli mākou i ke kui ma ke poʻo me ka lawe ʻana i kā mākou mau mana a hana i kekahi mea no mākou iho.

Pehea ʻoe i hui ai a hoʻolei iā Rebekah Kennedy lāua ʻo Sean O'Bryan?

KYLE: ʻO ia kahi aʻu i komo ai i ke kiʻi. Me koʻu kūlana hana a me ka hana hoʻomohala kiʻi aʻu e hana nei, loaʻa iaʻu kahi pūnaewele ikaika o nā poʻe aʻu i hana pū ai. Ua ʻike au iā Rebeka mai kahi papa a mākou i hui pū ai, a ʻoiai mākou e hoʻomohala ana i ka palapala, ʻike wau ʻo ia ke kanaka kūpono no ka hana a Hana. ʻO Sean, ua ʻōlelo ʻia ʻo ia mai kahi mea kākau maikaʻi aʻu i hana pū ai (a ʻoiaʻiʻo ua ʻike wau iā ia mai kāna hana mua). Lawe mākou i kekahi mau lipine mai kekahi mau mea hiki, akā ʻo ka minute a mākou i ʻike ai i ka heluhelu ʻana a Sean, ʻike mākou ʻo ia kā Douglas.

KAMERON: Ua loaʻa iā Rebeka nā ʻano kikoʻī a pau a mākou e ʻimi nei, a ua hana ʻo ia i kēia kanaka i ʻike piha ʻia, ʻekolu-dimensional i hana i nā mea i manaʻo ʻole ʻia i loko o kahi ʻano haiki loa i kau ʻia ma luna ona e kona kaiāulu a me kona manaʻoʻiʻo. Kahaha maoli nō ʻo Sean, ma nā ʻano maikaʻi loa - i ka wā o ke kākau ʻana ua loaʻa iaʻu kekahi mau manaʻo mua e pili ana i kona ʻano, a ua hoʻōla ʻo Sean iā ia i ke ʻano kanaka i hoʻokūkū a ʻoi aku i kēlā mau manaʻo i manaʻo ʻia. Manaʻo mākou e noʻonoʻo i nā kāhuna Kakolika e like me kēia mau kiʻi aloof a mamao e kamaʻilio me ka leʻaleʻa anuanu, akā aia ʻo Sean i kēia ʻano hoʻohaʻahaʻa lepo a hoʻohaʻahaʻa iā ia iho e ʻoi aku ka pili a me ke aloha o kona ʻano ma mua o ka mea ma ka ʻaoʻao.

Pehea ʻoe e wehewehe ai i ka Veil? He aha ka mea weliweli loa iā ʻoe? He aha kāu e ʻōlelo ai i nā kumuhana nui o The Veil?

KAMERON: ʻO ka Veil kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni pohihihi me nā mea weliweli a me nā mea sci-fi, kahi e hiki ai i kēia hanana lani nui ke hiki i kahi moʻolelo pili e pili ana i ka ʻike, ʻike, a me ka hilinaʻi - ma ke ʻano pilikino a me ka hoʻomana. ʻO ka wahine Amish a me ke Kahuna Katolika he pilina ʻano ʻano like ʻole ia e hoʻopaʻa i kahi moʻolelo a puni, a aia kahi paio a me ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa i kā lākou mau manaʻo honua.

KYLE: ʻO ia kekahi o nā mea aʻu i huki ʻia ai ma ʻaneʻi, ʻo ka hoʻoulu ʻia ʻana o ka makaʻu ʻaʻole wale ma o ka weliweli weliweli akā ma o ka pilina o ke koho, kuanaʻike, pehea mākou e ʻike ai a mālama ai kekahi i kekahi.

KAMERON: ʻO ka mea e makaʻu nui ai kēia mea, ʻo ia ka mea e ala ai iā mākou a pau i ka pō - ʻo ka hopohopo e pili ana i nā mea a mākou i hana ai ma mua (a i ʻole hana ʻole), a me ka hopohopo no ka mea ua hoʻāʻo mākou e neʻe. a waiho i kēlā mau mea i ka wā ma mua, ʻaʻole ia he manaʻo e noho lākou ma laila. ʻO ke kāʻei kūikawā o KA PAHU ʻae iā mākou e ʻimi i kēlā mau manaʻo ma o ka vernacular o nā moʻolelo ʻuhane maʻamau, inā paha i haʻi ʻia ma ke ahi hoʻomoana a i ʻole ma kahi pou weliweli i ka subreddit No Sleep.

KYLE: He creepypasta ʻike? ʻOiai ke manaʻo nei au ʻo ia wale nō ka Twilight Zone, akā ʻaʻole mamao loa mākou mai kēlā ʻaneʻi.

He aha kāu mau hoʻolālā i kēia manawa no The Veil?

KYLE: Me ka loaʻa ʻole o nā kikoʻī kikoʻī, ke kūkākūkā nei mākou me nā mea hoʻolaha kūpono a hoʻokumu i kahi hoʻolālā no kā mākou ʻahaʻaina holo i kēia makahiki aʻe. Ke hoʻokokoke nei mākou i kēia mai ka noʻonoʻo ʻana o ke kiki ʻana i nā papahana hou aʻe mai ka honua no laila ʻo ka lani ka palena e hiki ai iā mākou ke hoʻohana i kēia.

KAMERON: ʻO THE VEIL ka kiʻiʻoniʻoni mua aʻu i hana ai ma lalo o FilmFrontier, ka indie studio aʻu i hoʻokumu ai i ka makahiki 2019 me ka manaʻo e hoʻoulu i ka ulu ʻana o nā mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni like ʻole ma o kahi kaiaola hana hoʻomau a kaulike. Ma ke ʻano he mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni indie, paipai mau mākou e hana i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni a mākou e makemake ai e ʻike, a ua hana ʻia ʻo FilmFrontier i hiki iā mākou ke haʻi i nā moʻolelo ʻaʻole e ʻae ʻia e ka ʻoihana studio. Ma waho aʻe o ia mea he moʻolelo aʻu i makemake ai e haʻi no kekahi manawa lōʻihi, KA PAHU ʻaneʻane like ia me ka ʻōlelo thesis no ka mission a FilmFrontier– he mea e hōʻike ana i ke ʻano o nā mea hana i loaʻa i nā mea hana kiʻi indie hiki ke ʻike i nā hihiʻo nui me nā kumu waiwai liʻiliʻi.

Ke hana nei ʻoe i kekahi papahana hou?

KAMERON: He nui nā hao a māua me Kyle i ke ahi— ma ke ʻano he hui a ma kā mākou mau papahana ponoʻī. Aia kekahi mau palapala ʻelua aʻu i kūkulu ai no kekahi manawa me ka maka e hana ma hope KA PAHU: ʻo kekahi he moʻolelo hauʻoli noʻonoʻo i hoʻonohonoho ʻia ma ka ʻoihana hoʻolaha ʻo Los Angeles a ʻo kekahi he moʻolelo e hiki mai ana i ka makahiki e kūʻē i ka hāʻule ʻana o ka sociopolitical mai kahi ʻike nui cosmic. ʻO ka manaʻo like o kēia mau manaʻo ʻelua, ʻo ia ka makemake hoʻokahi i alakaʻi i ka hana ʻana KA PAHU, he mea pono e haʻi i nā moʻolelo koʻikoʻi a me ka manaʻo ʻole i ka hoʻokele waiwai hoʻomau.

KYLE: E like me kā Cam i ʻōlelo ai, loaʻa iā mākou nā papahana ʻokoʻa e hiki koke mai ana, akā e pili ana i ka wā e hiki mai ana o kēia hui, ʻo kekahi o nā mea hoihoi e pili ana i ka hana ʻana i ka microbudget production ʻo ia ka palena wale ʻia e nā kumuwaiwai, ʻaʻole i ka noʻonoʻo. Ma hope o ka hana ʻana i kā mākou hana KA PAHU, ua loaʻa iā mākou kekahi mau manaʻo i ka pipeline e hoʻomau i ka misionari a mākou i hoʻomaka ai ma aneʻi.

Rebeka Kennedy

He aha kou hope? He aha kou hoihoi i ka hana keaka?

No Texas au, kahi aʻu i hānau ai a hānai ʻia, a ua hoʻomaka wau i ka hoihoi i ka hana ʻana i koʻu wā liʻiliʻi. Ua lawe koʻu makuahine iaʻu e ʻike i kaʻu pāʻani mua i koʻu mau makahiki 4 a ua pili koke wau. Ua ʻike wale wau makemake wau e piʻi i luna o ke kahua. I koʻu mau makahiki he 12, ua koʻikoʻi koʻu makuahine iaʻu a kau inoa iaʻu no nā papa hana hana a hoʻomaka wau e hana i nā pāʻani a me nā mele. Ua hoʻomau ia ma ke kula a hiki i ke kulanui. Ma hope o koʻu puka ʻana i ke kulanui, hoʻomaka wau e ʻimi hou i ka hoihoi i ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni a me ka TV. He huakaʻi lōʻihi, akā he huakaʻi maikaʻi.

He aha ka mea i hoihoi iā ʻoe i kahi papahana like ʻO ka pale?

Ua kākau ʻo Cameron Beyl i kahi palapala hoʻohiwahiwa a hoihoi. Aia wau ma ka ʻaoʻao o koʻu noho me ka makemake nui e ʻike i ka mea e hiki mai ana. Ma hope o ka heluhelu ʻana, ʻike wau he kiʻiʻoniʻoni kēia aʻu i makemake ai e lilo i ʻāpana. Ua huki koke ʻia au i ke ʻano o Hana. He ʻano hoihoi ʻo Hana me kahi ʻano pohihihi iā ia, a hauʻoli loa wau e makaʻala iā ia. A laila, hui au me Cameron lāua ʻo Kyle Andrews, ka mea hana, a ua hoʻokūpaʻa wale ia i kaʻu hoʻoholo. Ua maopopo he hana like loa ia a ua hāmama a hoʻokipa lākou i kaʻu mau manaʻo. ʻAʻole wau i komo i loko o kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni e like me kēia a he mea hoihoi loa ia iaʻu.

Makemake ʻoe i ke ʻano hoʻoweliweli? He aha kāu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli?

Hauʻoli loa au i ke ʻano hoʻoweliweli. Ua nānā au i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli mai koʻu wā ma kahi o 11. Ke ulu nei au, ʻaʻole wau i noʻonoʻo e komo maoli wau i loko o ia mau mea, no laila he ʻano ʻakaʻaka ko ke ao nei. ʻO kekahi o kaʻu mau punahele ʻo The Sixth Sense, The Conjuring, Insidious, Sinister, a me The Exorcist e inoa i kekahi. Akā he nui nā mea nui.

Pehea ʻoe e wehewehe ai i kou ʻano o Hana ma Ka Pepa?

He wahine ʻōpio ʻo ʻAmisa ʻo Hana a he akamai a hoʻohua. He lokomaikaʻi ʻo ia akā makaʻala a paʻa i nā mea i kona puʻuwai. ʻOiai ʻaʻole ʻike nui ʻo ia i ka honua o waho, he koa loa ʻo ia. ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke haʻi nui i kēia manawa, akā ke kakali nei au i ka hālāwai ʻana o ka honua me ia.

He aha kāu ʻike e like me ka hana ʻana Ka Pepa? Ke hana pū nei me Sean O'Bryan?

He mea kupaianaha koʻu ʻike e hana ana ma The Veil. Loaʻa iaʻu kahi manawa maikaʻi loa e paʻi ana i ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni. He alakaʻi maikaʻi ʻo Cameron a ʻike i ke alakaʻi pono ʻana iā mākou ma ke ʻano he mea hana ke hāʻawi nei iā mākou i ke keʻena e pāʻani ai, e ʻimi, a e ʻike i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo i nā manawa. No ka nui o ka palapala e pili ana i ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻole ʻia, a ua hāʻawi ʻo Cameron i kahi wahi nani e ʻike ai. ʻO Kyle kahi noho mālie ma ke kahua. Nui kona puʻuwai a makemake nui a mālama nui ʻo ia i kā mākou ʻike, ʻo ia ka mea i ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi. Ua hoʻokiʻekiʻe wale ka hui holoʻokoʻa i ka papahana. He moeʻuhane ka hana pū me Sean O'Bryan. Ua makemake nui au iā ia no kekahi manawa, a he mea maʻamau ʻo ia e ʻike ai. He lokomaikaʻi ʻo ia, ʻakaʻaka, a ʻakaʻaka mau iā mākou me kāna mau moʻolelo ma ke kahua. He hauʻoli nō hoʻi ʻo ia i ka hana ʻana ma ke ʻano he hoa hana. Ua maʻalahi ʻo Sean e hoʻopili me ia ma ke ʻano he mea hana. He 100 pakeneka mau ʻo ia i loko o nā ʻauwaha me aʻu a hoʻoikaika nui i ka wā kiʻiʻoniʻoni. ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke noi i kahi hoa hana maikaʻi aʻe a puni ka ʻike. Ua ulu nui au ma ke ʻano he mea keaka a he kanaka i ka wā o ke kaʻina hana a mahalo mau wau no ia mea.

He aha kāu e manaʻolana ai i ka manaʻo o ke anaina Ka Pepa?

Manaʻo wau aia ka poʻe anaina ma ka lihi o ko lākou mau noho a e hoʻopili hohonu i nā ʻano o Hannah lāua ʻo Douglas. Manaʻo wau e hele lākou i kahi kaʻa ʻaʻole lākou e poina koke.

Sean O'Bryan

He aha kou hope? He aha kou hoihoi i ka hana keaka?

No Louisville au… ma hope o ka hoʻolilo ʻana i nā makahiki 80 ma NYC e aʻo ana i ka hana ma HB STUDIOS a me ka hana ʻana i nā pāʻani he nui ma waho o ke ala ākea ua neʻe au i LA IN 1990 a hoʻomaka wau e hana i nā hōʻike tv a me nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni i kēia manawa a ua hana mau wau me ka pau ʻole. mai ka manawa mai! 

He aha ka mea i hoihoi iā ʻoe i kahi papahana e like me The Veil?
Ua hoihoi mau au i nā ʻano hana like ʻole o ka ʻoihana a ʻaʻole hiki ke hoʻoholo i hoʻokahi mea. o ka manawa a laila neʻe i mua ... ʻaʻole pono wau e hele i ke kula kānāwai a hoʻopau i ke koena o koʻu ola e hoʻomaʻamaʻa kānāwai ... hiki iaʻu ke pāʻani i hoʻokahi ma ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni a i ʻole kahi hōʻike ... a i kēlā pule aʻe e lilo wau i kauka a etc. etc!
Ua hana au i kekahi mau papahana hoʻohenehene i ka lālani no laila i koʻu heluhelu ʻana i ka palapala no THE VEIL ua hoihoi koke au no ka mea he manawa maikaʻi loa ia e haʻalele ai i kēlā ʻano hana ... makemake wau i ka maʻalahi a me ka naʻauao o ke kākau… a makemake au i ka manaʻo e hana wale i nā hiʻohiʻona me kekahi kanaka ʻē aʻe i loko o kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni holoʻokoʻa ... aia kekahi ʻano ʻuhane nui i ka palapala a ʻaʻole pinepine wau i loaʻa iaʻu ka manawa e makaʻala ai ma ke ʻano he mea keaka ... ua lawa i ka'u hana lō'ihi 'a'ole loa i loa'a ia'u ka manawa e hana ai ma ke 'ano weliweli!

Makemake ʻoe i ke ʻano hoʻoweliweli?    

Makemake loa au i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli ... ʻo ia paha kaʻu ʻano punahele 

He aha kāu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli?

ʻO kaʻu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni weliweli Ka Babadook , Na Mea Aloha , Ka Omen (mua) , IT (hana hou) Nohealani (kumu), ʻO Exorcist, Hale o 1000 Kupapau, Keena Iloko o ka Ululaau, ʻO ka Blair Witch Project a he nui hou aku! 

Pehea ʻoe e wehewehe ai i kou ʻano o Douglas ma Ka Pepa? 

He kanaka maikaʻi loa ʻo Father Douglas, he kahuna ʻelemakule ... ke ʻike nei ʻo ia i kahi pilikia uhane ma muli o kekahi minamina nui i nā koho āna i hana ai i kona ola ʻana!

He aha kāu ʻike e like me ka hana ʻana Ka Pepa?

Paʻa loa koʻu ʻike ma ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni ... ʻo ke ala wale nō e hoʻopau ʻia ai kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni i nā lā 10 inā pololei nā mea a pau ... a ua hana ʻia ... ʻo Kyle Andrews kekahi o nā mea hana akamai a hoʻonohonoho ʻia aʻu i hana ai ... a ʻO nā mea a pau me ka ʻokoʻa i lawe ʻia i laila He pāʻani ... ua paʻi ʻia ka hapa nui o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni ma kahi wahi i makemake nui ʻia no ka mea ua hāʻawi i ka manawa hou no ka hana ʻana i kēlā me kēia kiʻi ... ma kou manamana wāwae… Ua hana ʻo Cameron i kahi hana maikaʻi loa ma ka hōʻoia ʻana i ka ʻike mau ʻana o māua ʻo Rebeka i ko kāua mau manaʻo i kēlā me kēia hiʻohiʻona i mea e holo pono ai! 

Ke hana pū nei me Rebekah Kennedy?

He akamai loa ʻo Rebekah Kennedy… ma kaʻu mau hiʻohiʻona, ʻo kaʻu mea pono e hana ai, ʻo ia ka hele ʻana a komo i loko a hui pū me ia a e hana nā mea a pau e like me ke kilokilo! Manaʻo nui ʻo ia e pili ana i ka maikaʻi a hoʻoikaika ia i kekahi a puni iā ​​​​ia e manaʻo like! 

He aha kāu e ʻōlelo ai ʻo ka mea weliweli loa Ka Pepa?

Ke ʻōlelo nei au ʻo ka mea weliweli loa o The Veil ʻo ia ka huikau āu e ʻike ai i ka mea maoli a me ka mea ʻole ... he mea hoʻonāukiuki loa ... ʻaʻole laina laina ka huakaʻi a pāʻani ʻo Cameron ma ka lele ʻana a ma kahi!