Nā Fury ʻO ia ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i hoʻomālamalama ʻia e ka lā o ka mea kākau / alakaʻi o Australia ʻo Tony DʻAquino. He leka aloha koko liʻiliʻi ia i nā kiʻi slasher maʻamau e hoʻohana i nā hopena maikaʻi loa i ka wā e hoʻomaha ana i kekahi o nā tropes pilikia hou o ka subgenre.

Ua loaʻa iaʻu kahi manawa kūpono e noho pū me DʻAquino no ʻO Toronto ma hope o ka pouli no kahi kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā mea pepehi kanaka, nā hopena kūpono, weliweli kuʻuna, a Nā Fury.

Hiki iā ʻoe ke heluhelu i kaʻu hōʻike piha no Nā Fury ma kēia loulou.

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ʻO Kelly McNeely: He aha ka genesis o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, no hea mai kēia?

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: No laila ua aloha mau wau i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hoʻoweliweli 70 a me 80, kahi ʻano maopopo i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, a me nā kiʻi slasher a me ka hoʻohana ʻana o kēlā au. Makemake au i ke ʻano anarchic a ʻano pupule i kēlā mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni no ka mea he kūʻokoʻa ka hapanui a ʻaʻohe nui o ka hihia. No laila ua loaʻa mau iaʻu kēia ʻano manaʻo pupule iki o ka hoʻohana ʻana i kēlā trope kaikamahine hope loa a pehea hoʻi inā e koi ʻia kekahi pūʻulu kaikamahine hope loa a me kā lākou poʻe pepehi kanaka e hakakā kekahi i kekahi? Akā ʻo ia kekahi o kēlā mau manaʻo, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole e mālama kekahi i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Kani wale kahi hua liʻiliʻi. 

No laila ua hele wau i ka pale paʻi kiʻi paʻi ma Australia. Loaʻa iā mākou nā kino kālā mokuʻāina ma Nūhōlani - nā kino hoʻolele kiʻi ʻoniʻoni Ua holo lākou i kahi hale hana liʻiliʻi, e like me ka hoʻokūkū hoʻokūkū. No laila ua kau ʻoe i kahi panela - ʻo ia ʻo Odin's Eye Entertainment, ʻo ia ka mea kūʻai aku a mākou - he kākāʻōlelo palapala, a he mea aʻoaʻo kūkā. A aia he 42 poʻe ma laila, manaʻo wau, e hoʻomoe ana ma luna o kekahi mau hopena pule, e hoʻokau nei i nā manaʻo iā lākou, a e koho lākou i nā mea a lākou e manaʻo ai he maikaʻi no ka mea e kūʻai aku ai ma waena. ʻO nā mea āpau e pili ana i ke kūʻai ʻana no kahi waihona haʻahaʻa. 

No laila koho lākou he ʻumi mai kēlā mau moʻo o nā hopena pule e hele i ka hoʻolālā mua, a mai kēlā mau kikoʻī mua koho lākou i ʻehā e hele i ka hana. No laila ʻo kaʻu ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni mua i puka mai kēlā. ʻO kaʻu pitch ka nui, ʻike ʻoe, Halloween me ke kaua Royale, ʻo ia kēlā. A hele wau no ia.

Kelly McNeely: He wehewehe apt maoli ia no ia. No laila aia ka nui o nā hopena kūpono phenomenal i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, a mahalo mau ʻia. He aha nā hoʻāʻo o ka hana ʻana me kēlā mau hopena kūpono, a he mea ia āu i hauʻoli ai? He mea paha ʻoe e hana hou ai?

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: ʻO wau e makemake nei, makemake wau i nā hopena kūpono. A noʻonoʻo wale wau, ke manaʻo nei wau, inā ʻaʻole nui kāu kālā e hana ai iā CGI a hoʻolilo i ka manawa ma CGI, ka mea a mākou i ʻole. A makemake wau i ka hemahema a me nā hopena hana. Manaʻo wau he ʻano ʻoi aku ke ʻano o ia, aia kekahi kaumaha kino ma laila āu e hiki ʻole ai ke kiʻi me CGI. No laila hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi wale, a me kahi o nā hemahema i nā hopena kūpono, manaʻo wau, hoʻohui i ka hoʻomaha o ka hoʻomaloka, no ka mea, hiki i ka CGI ke hemolele ke ʻimi nei ʻoe i nā hewa, akā me nā hopena kūpono, mākaukau ʻoe e kala i nā hewa. Akā paʻakikī i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni haʻahaʻa, loaʻa iā ʻoe nā hopena pono he nui a me nā stunt he nui, a me nā masks a me nā mea āpau. Lōʻihi ka manawa, a me ka hapa nui o kēlā mau hopena he hoʻokahi wale nō mākou e hana. No laila pono ia e pono. No laila nui kēlā kaomi hou.

ʻO ka manawa a me ka moʻohelu kālā kā mākou mau pilikia. Akā loaʻa iaʻu ʻo Larry Van Duynhoven nāna i hana nā hopena no mākou, he hoa aloha maoli mākou. A like mākou i ke aloha i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli a me nā helu kuhikuhi like, ʻo ka hapa nui o lākou mai nā 70 a me 80, e like me ʻO ka puhi a Halloween a Friday ka 13th a ʻIke ka pepehi kanaka ʻo Chain Texas. A ua hana ʻo ia i kekahi mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ma mua o kahi āna i hana ai i nā hana he nui no nā hopena hana i hoʻopau ʻole ʻia ma ka papakaumaka, no laila ua hoʻohoka nui ʻo ia. Akā ua hoʻohiki wau iā ia no kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ʻaʻohe ala e hiki ʻole ai lākou āpau ma laila. ʻAʻole mākou e hūnā i kekahi mea. No laila hana nui ʻo ia. Ua hele ʻo ia ma mua o ka mea a mākou e uku aku nei iā ia e hana. No laila ʻo ia ke kumu o ka maikaʻi o ko lākou nānā ʻana no ka mea he ʻano hemolele ʻo ia, makemake nui iā ia.

Kelly McNeely: Ua maikaʻi maoli nō. Aia kēlā hiʻohiʻona me ka helehelena a me ke koʻi. Aloha wale wau. Ua manaʻo wau he nani ia.

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: A ʻo ia ka lā ʻelua o ke kī, kī mākou i kēlā wahi. ʻO ia ka hopena mua aʻu i ʻike maoli ai, ka hopena hana mua a mākou i hana ai. A i kaʻu kākau ʻana i kēlā hanana ʻaʻole au i ʻike pehea mākou e hana ai a i ʻole inā hiki iā Larry ke hana. Akā ua hoʻohiki ʻo ia iaʻu hiki iā ia, a laila iā mākou e kī ana, a ke nānā nei wau i ka mea nānā a he mea weliweli ia iaʻu ke nānā a manaʻo wau "e kuʻu akua, ua hele mamao loa paha wau?" [ʻakaʻaka]

Kelly McNeely: I kēia manawa ua ʻōlelo ʻoe i nā masks no nā holoholona. No hea mai kēlā mau hoʻolālā holoholona, ​​na wai i hoʻolālā kēlā mau mea? 

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: ʻO wau wale nō a me Larry a hana pū mākou me kekahi mea hoʻolālā ʻo Seth Justice nāna i hana nā kiʻi hou aku na mākou. No laila ua kamaʻilio mākou i kekahi mau pule, ka mea a mākou e makemake ai e hana. A makemake nui wau e hoʻohanohano i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻē aʻe he nui, no laila aia kekahi ʻano, maopopo ʻoe, ka ʻiʻo mask Jason a me Leatherface a Pāpā Pāʻani a Motel Hell, a no laila he ʻano hoʻohanohano lākou i kēlā mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, akā hana lākou ia e like me ke kumu i hiki, kahi ʻano paʻakikī e hana me ʻewalu mau pale maka hou akā ua hoʻomohala wale wau iā lākou ma o ke kamaʻilio ʻana a me ka hana ʻana ma o nā hoʻolālā like ʻole.

Kelly McNeely: Ua maikaʻi lākou. Makemake au i ka mea āu i ʻōlelo ai e pili ana i ka ʻokoʻa o kā lākou hoʻomana ʻana i nā ʻano like ʻole no ka mea hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike i kēlā. Loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi hoʻolālā holoholona punahele?

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: ʻO wau paha, ʻo Skin Crow, ke kāne e komo i ka lole kanaka āpau, no ka mea, ma mua, he helehelena wale nō kēlā. A ʻo ia kā Larry manaʻo. Ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia ma kahi o ka hana ʻana i kēlā, e hana wale mākou i kahi kino holoʻokoʻa, e ʻaʻe wale ana i ka ʻili holoʻokoʻa. ʻLelo wale wau, ʻā, inā hiki iā ʻoe ke hana i kēlā, Larry, maikaʻi kēlā, e hele ʻoe no ia! 

Kelly McNeely: Ua weliweli. Nani maoli nō, maikaʻi maoli. 

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: A pupule i ke ola maoli. ʻOi aku ka mea creepier no ka mea ua kiʻi ʻia ka peʻa ma ke kua, ua lauoho i nā wahi āpau, ʻoi aku ka ʻoiaʻiʻo i ke ola maoli. He weliweli loa ia.

Kelly McNeely: ʻOluʻolu loa kēlā! No laila loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi manaʻo wahine wahine ikaika me nā ʻano, kahi mea maikaʻi loa. Makemake au i ka pili ʻole o ka wahine i nā mea a pau, a ma ke ʻano he wahine hoʻoweliweli weliweli e ʻike mau. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i ke kaʻina o kāu hana ʻana i nā huapalapala a iā ʻoe e kākau ana i ka palapala, a me ke ʻano o nā mea āu e makemake ai e hana me kēlā mau huapalapala?

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: Aloha wau i nā kiʻi slasher 70s a me 80s, akā nui ka hapa nui o lākou i lilo i pilikia a lilo i wahi misogynistic a me ka sexist, a aia he ʻōlohelohe maoli ʻole a me nā wahine e hana naʻaupō ana a ma laila wale nō e luku ʻia ai - e like me nā mea i hōʻeha ʻia. No laila makemake wau e hana i kahi kiʻi slasher akā e hoʻopau i kēlā mau mea āpau, no laila ke hana nei nā wahine i nā mea akamai, a ʻaʻohe ʻōlohelohe a e like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai ʻaʻole lākou i moekolohe ʻia. Makemake au e hōʻoia i kēlā me kēia wahine i kuʻi i ka naʻau. A ua kapa ʻia lākou āpau, no laila ʻaʻole lākou he poʻe ʻino inoa ʻole i ʻano holo like, hāʻule a ʻokiʻoki ʻia - koho wau koe ka mea mua.

ʻO ka mea mua ma laila e kuhi wau he mea kahaha i ka poʻe hoʻolohe; no laila ʻo kēia ka mea maʻamau e hana, a laila hele mai ka mea pepehi ʻelua, a laila, maikaʻi, ʻike ʻoe ʻaʻole ia e kiʻi i kahi kiʻi slasher maʻamau. Akā ua ʻike nui wau i ka lilo ʻana o ka wahine i mea nui, a i ka hana ʻana i nā wahine i huapalapala holoʻokoʻa i loaʻa i kēlā me kēia ʻano o ke kūʻokoʻa. No laila mahalo iā ʻoe no ka ʻohi ʻana i kēlā.

Kelly McNeely: Makemake au i kā lākou i kā lākou hohonu a, e like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai, he inoa inoa ko lākou āpau no laila smashes ka hōʻike Bechdel, kahi weliweli.

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: A ʻaʻole lākou e kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā keikikāne ma mua.

Kelly McNeely: ʻAʻole loa! Aʻole nō! 

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: ʻAʻohe kamaʻilio e pili ana i "ke hele mai nei nā kāne e hoʻōla iā mākou?" 

Kelly McNeely: ʻAe, ʻaʻohe o kēlā. Pili ia i ka pili aloha pū kekahi, a makemake nui au i kēlā mea. ʻAʻole ia e pili ana i ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e hoʻi i ka home i kahi keikikāne a i ʻole he hoa hana, akā ʻo ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e loaʻa kāna hoaaloha.

He helehelena wela loa kā ka lā, ka mea aʻu e ʻike ʻole ai inā ʻo ia kahi kahi i paʻi ʻia ai inā paha he mea āu i hana ai me ka manaʻo nui?

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: Kahi manaʻo iki, no ka mea, ʻo kekahi o kaʻu mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni punahele ʻIke ʻo Texas Chain Saw Massacre, no laila ʻike wale ʻoe i ka wela e kuʻi ana i lalo no ka hapanui o kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. No laila ka nui o kēlā ʻano, ʻo ia ke ola ʻo ʻAseteralia; ua like ka nohona Australia me kēlā. No laila kiʻekiʻe loa mākou i ka mauna - ʻaʻole kiʻekiʻe e like me ke kiʻekiʻe, aia mākou i ka pae kai. No laila ʻoi aku ka ʻaka a me ka mālamalama o ka ea ma laila. A no laila ua hana mākou i ka hapa nui o kēlā i ke kī ʻana e hāʻawi i kēlā nānā i puhi ʻia. A kahi a mākou i kī aku ai i ke kūlanakauhale ʻuhane ua maloʻo wale. Me he mea lā, ʻano like ia me kahi wao nahele, ʻaʻohe mauʻu e ulu ana, aia kahi loko maloʻo no laila ua hoʻonui mākou i kēlā. Akā he mea i manaʻo ʻia e loaʻa kēlā, e hoʻāʻo a hāʻawi iā ia i kēlā manaʻo moeʻuhane.

Kelly McNeely: Makemake au i kēlā no ka mea me ka nui o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli, aia ka makaʻu i ka pouli. Nui nā mea e hana nei i ka manawa o ka pō, no laila no ka loaʻa ʻana o kahi lā i puhi ʻia i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i hoʻoweliweli ʻia, makemake nui wau i ke ʻano o kēlā.

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, he mea paʻakikī nō ia a kau i ka kaomi i nā hopena kūikawā i ka poʻe, no ka mea ʻaʻohe ala e peʻe ai. ʻAʻohe o lākou aka ma nā wahi āpau. 

Kelly McNeely:  No laila he aha nā luʻi ʻē aʻe o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻana i kēlā wahi a i ʻole ke kiʻi ʻana i kēlā wahi? Maʻa ke nānā aku.

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: Maʻa loa ia, he wahi maikaʻi. No laila ke kaona i loko o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni kahi kūlanakauhale hoʻoulu gula kahiko. ʻO ka mea i hana ʻia, aia kahi kūlanakauhale mining gula kahiko ma kēlā pūnaewele, a laila i nā makahiki 70 ua kūkulu kekahi poʻe i kahi leʻaleʻa o ke kaona ma ke ʻano he wahi hoʻokipa, akā ua pio koke ia. A laila hele lākou a haʻalele wale i nā mea āpau i laila e pala. No laila i ka wā i ʻike ai, ua hoʻololi maoli wau i ka palapala e hoʻonoho ai i kēlā kaona no ka mea ua puni ia e 60 eka o ke kūlanakauhale ʻuhane, no laila he backlot ia e hiki ai iā mākou ke loaʻa no kahi kālā liʻiliʻi. A ʻo ka nui o kēlā mau mea kākoʻo a aia wale nā ​​mea āpau, e moe ana lākou a mākaukau e hoʻohana. No laila maikaʻi ia. Hiki iā mākou ke laka iā ia e like me kā mākou hoʻonohonoho ponoʻī.

No laila he wahi maʻalahi ia e kī ai ma kahi paha he 15 mau minuke mai ke kūlanakauhale nui, ʻo ia ʻo Canberra, ʻoiai ke nānā aku nei ia ma waena o ka laʻalāʻau. A laki laki loa mākou ʻaʻole hoʻokahi ua. No laila ʻano like ia me kahi microclimate ʻano ʻē. He pā ʻole a maloʻo loa a aia, e like me, ʻaʻohe holoholona hihiu ma laila. ʻO ka pū hoʻokahi o nā manu i loaʻa iā mākou ʻo ia wale nō nā manu a mākou i ʻike ai i ke kī holoʻokoʻa. He maloʻo wale a lepo a wela hoʻi ia, ʻo ia ke ʻano o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i ke ola maoli.

Kelly McNeely: No laila ua ʻōlelo ʻoe i nā kiʻi slasher o nā 70 a me 80 e like ʻIke ʻo Texas Chain Saw Massacre a Motel Hell, he aha nā hopena a me nā hoʻouluulu āu i huki ai iā ʻoe e hana ana Nā Fury?

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: Kuhi au no ka mea nānā wale wau i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni āpau. No laila, ʻike ʻoe, manaʻo wau e piʻi aʻe nā mea āpau i kahi. ʻAʻohe aʻu kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e hoʻāʻo nei au e hoʻohālike a huki ʻole i ka hoʻoulu pololei ʻana mai. ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ʻo nā mea like me nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni Gladiator o nā makahiki 50 a me 60, aloha pū wau i kēlā mau mea. No laila he ʻano kahua hoʻokūkū gladiator ia. ʻO ka mana nui ke ʻano pololei o ka loaʻa ʻana o nā implinal retinal, no Bertrand Tavernier's Death Watch. Ua ʻike anei ʻoe? Me Harvey Keitel?

Kelly McNeely: ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole i loaʻa iaʻu. Aʻole.

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: He kiʻi ʻoniʻoni maikaʻi ia. No laila i kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, loaʻa iā Harvey Keitel nā implant retinal a pono e ukali a puni kahi wahine e make ana ma ke ʻano he leʻaleʻa no ka poʻe e nānā. No laila ua ʻaihue wau i kēlā manaʻo mai laila mai. Akā ma mua o kēlā, ʻoiaʻiʻo, he hoʻohui wale ʻana o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni aʻu i nānā ai i nā makahiki i hala.

Kelly McNeely: I kēia manawa, ua pane ʻē ʻoe i kaʻu nīnau e pili ana i ke kaona mining. Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe ua ʻike ʻoe pēlā, ua kūkulu ʻia.

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: Ma laila ʻo ia. Ua hana mākou i kahi hoʻololi iki, ʻike ʻoe, neʻe wale i nā mea āpau. Pono mākou e kūkulu i ʻelua mau paia ma luna o kekahi o nā lua. Akā nā props āpau i laila a mākou e hoʻohana maʻamau ai mai ke kaona, hele wale mākou a puni i nā mea mai nā hale ʻē aʻe, a hoʻohana i nā mea ma laila, nani, no laila kōkua ia i ka hana ʻana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - manaʻo wau - e nānā hou aku. pipiʻi ma mua o ka maoli. [ʻakaʻaka]

Kelly McNeely: He aha kāu e aloha ai e pili ana i ka ʻano weliweli? Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe he kanaka nui ʻoe i kēia ʻano, i ʻike maoli ʻia i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. 

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: ʻO kahi ʻāpana o ia manaʻo wau, ʻo ia nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni mua āu e ʻike ai ma ke ʻano kamaliʻi e pili koke iā ʻoe. No laila, like wau i nā mea hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni he nui, naʻu, kekahi o nā mea mua aʻu e hoʻomanaʻo nei ʻaʻole wau King Kong, ka mana 1933 a - i ke wā kamaliʻi - weliweli a kaumaha loa. No laila makaʻu ʻoe i ka moʻo nui a aloha ʻoe i ka monster i ka manawa like. No laila ke manaʻo nei wau ua hoʻomaka wau i ka weliweli ma mua a laila ʻo ia wale nō ke ʻano o ka weliweli, ʻo ka mea mua, e pili ana i ke kūʻē ʻana i kou makaʻu, a aia nō paha kahi hauʻoli leʻaleʻa o ka anarchy a me ka hana ʻino a aia kahi ʻano e like me maikaʻi. ʻO kahi ʻano i loko o nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli hiki i kekahi mea ke hana ʻia i kēlā me kēia manawa, ʻano pupule paha lākou.

A ua hoʻomaka wau me nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻo Hammer, aʻu e aloha nui ai, a hiki i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni 60 a me 70. Manaʻo wau ʻo ia mea like me King Kong, aloha ʻoe a makaʻu i ka manawa hoʻokahi. ʻO ia kekahi ʻano mea hoʻokalakupua a ua hōʻalo iki ʻia ʻoe i ka manawa hoʻokahi.

Kelly McNeely: A he nui nā moʻo maʻamau i loaʻa ia, e like me ka monster monster a Frankenstein i loaʻa i kēlā mea.

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: ʻO ka mea hana mai ka Lagoon ʻEleʻele, ke minamina nei ʻoe no ka mea weliweli ia.

Kelly McNeely: ʻAe, ʻae. Makemake ʻoe e hoʻomau i ka hana i ka ʻano weliweli? Makemake ʻoe e hoʻāʻo a hana i kekahi mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻē aʻe, a i ʻole paʻa paʻa paha ʻoe me ka weliweli? No ka mea manaʻo wau e hana nui ana ʻoe.

ʻO Tony DʻAquino: Aloha au i ka weliweli. ʻO ka papahana aʻe aʻu e hana nei he kiʻi hoʻoweliweli. E hana ʻino paha e like me Nā Fury? Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hana i kekahi kiʻi ʻē aʻe i kolohe e like me kēlā. Akā ʻaʻole, aloha au i ka weliweli. Makemake wau, aloha au i nā ʻano a pau. Makemake au e hana i kahi kiʻi ʻepekema fiction. Makemake au e hana i kahi Komohana, akā aloha wau i ka weliweli a ʻo ia ka mea aʻu e nānā nui ai a hoʻāʻo a hemolele. No ka mea ke nānā wau i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻike wau i kēia mau hewa āpau aʻu i hana ai a me nā mea makemake wau e hana ʻokoʻa. No laila manaʻo wau he ʻano paakiki loa ia e kiʻi pono.

ʻO ka weliweli a me ka hoʻomākeʻaka he paʻakikī paʻakikī loa e hele i ka pono. No laila makemake nui wau e hoʻomau i ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e hana i ke kiʻi kūpono, e hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e like me ka maikaʻi ʻIke ka pepehi kanaka ʻo Chain Texas; iaʻu, ʻo ia kahi ʻano o ke kahawai kiʻekiʻe, e kiʻi i kēlā wahi kahi e hiki ai ke hoʻopiha i kēlā mau ʻenehana āpau āu e hoʻohana ai i ka ʻano.

 

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