ʻO Justin Benson lāua ʻo Aaron Moorhead kekahi o nā mea hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻoi loa a hana mau i ka ʻoihana i kēia lā. E like me kā lākou kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i hala - Hoʻoholo, Puna, a Ke Aloha - kā lākou kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hou loa, Lōkahi, Loaʻa iā ia kahi kāwili hana o nā mea sci-fi a me nā poʻomanaʻo ākea me kahi hohonu, pili kanaka e paʻa i ka naʻau i ka lehulehu.

Hoʻonohonoho a kī ʻia ma New Orleans, Lōkahi nā puka lou i kahi hōkū i hōkū ʻia me Anthony Mackie (Kāpena America: Kanawai War) lāua ʻo Jamie Dornan (50 malu o hina). Ua loaʻa iaʻu ka manawa kūpono e noho pū me Justin Benson a me Aaron Moorhead e kūkākūkā i ka mea hana keaka, ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, New Orleans, nā lāʻau hoʻolālā, a me kā lākou kumuhana hoʻohana pinepine ʻia o ka manawa.

[Hiki iā ʻoe ke heluhelu i kaʻu piha ka piha ʻana o Lōkahi maanei]

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Kelly McNeely: No laila he aha ka genesis o Lōkahi?  

Aaron Moorhead: Ma hea i hoʻomaka maoli ai? Manaʻo wau he ʻelua kā mākou makemake e kamaʻilio e pili ana i ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e huki iā ia i kahi e hoʻomaka pono ai. Ma muli o ko mākou noho nui ʻana, ʻaʻohe manawa kahe wai. ʻO kekahi ma aneʻi ma Toronto ma kahi pā, a ke pāʻani nei lākou Back i ka Future. A ua hoʻopili wale ʻia mākou i ka laser, no ka mea ʻo ia ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻoi loa o ka honua. A hoʻomākeʻaka wale nō e pili ana i kaʻoiaʻiʻo o ka hāʻule ʻana o kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni inā ʻeleʻele ʻo Marty McFly.

A, a laila ʻo ka mea ʻē aʻe, manaʻo wau, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ia wale nō ka manaʻo. ʻO ka manaʻo o kahi lāʻau hoʻolālā; ke pili ia i kāu ʻike, he aha ka mea e pili maoli i kou ʻike i ke ʻano o ka ʻike o ke kanaka i ka manawa. ʻIke mākou iā ia i ka laina, ʻoiai ua ʻōlelo nā physicists he hana maoli ia a ua hana ʻia i ka manawa like ma luna o kekahi, akā hiki iā mākou ke komo i ke ala laina. A maopopo iā mākou inā, inā hiki i nā lāʻau ke hana i nā loli i kou ʻike, no ke aha hiki ʻole iā ia ke hana i kēlā? Loaʻa i ke kūmole ʻelima.

Kelly McNeely: A aloha nui wau i kēlā ʻano o ka "manawa he pōʻai pālahalaha" wehewehe me ka mea hoʻokani pila, manaʻo wau he maikaʻi loa ia. He aha ka hana ma ke ʻano he mea hoʻoulu a hoʻokau paha iā ʻoe i ka wā e hana ana Lōkahi? ʻ aʻe ma mua o Back i ka Future, ae nō hoʻi.

Justin Benson: ʻO Alan Moore, kahi nui o nā puke mele a Alan Moore.

Aaron Moorhead: Auē, e ke kāne, manaʻo wau makemake mākou i kahi ʻano makemake e hana i kahi sci-fi ʻAneʻane Kaulana ole kekahi mea.

Justin Benson: Ua hoʻopili iki ʻia e He Mele ʻEleʻele. 

Aaron Moorhead: Liʻiliʻi ia i loko, ʻae.

Justin Benson: ʻO ia, ma ke ala, kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - ua kākau mākou i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e pili ana i kēlā ʻano hana like. Akā na Aleister Crowley e hana i ka hana maʻamau. A ʻike mākou [He Mele ʻEleʻele] ma kahi pāʻina ʻoniʻoni a noʻonoʻo, hoʻomaikaʻi i ke Akua ʻaʻole mākou i hana, ua hana mākou i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni like.

Aaron Moorhead: Manaʻo wau ʻo ia nō, ʻaʻole kuhikuhi pinepine mākou i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a like, e hana i kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. ʻIke ʻoe, he ʻāpana a me nā ʻāpana like ia, like kēia pana me ka lima paʻa Nā keiki a nā kāne aiʻole, ʻike ʻoe, i kēlā mea liʻiliʻi. Mea liʻiliʻi maoli nō. ʻIke ʻoe, ʻoiaʻiʻo, aia nā like tonal ma waena o kēia a me ka hanana monolith i 2001:'O kahi hola Odyssey, ka weliweli wale nō. A ʻaʻole ʻoe i ʻike i ke kumu he 30 mau minuke holoʻokoʻa o ia i kā mākou kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. 

Kelly McNeely: ʻIke wau i kēlā manawa kēia ʻano o kahi kumuhana hoʻomau me kāu mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni - he mea āu e makemake ai e ʻimi iki. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio e pili ana i ke kumu he manaʻo hoihoi loa ka manawa, a no ke aha kēlā mea āu e hoʻomau nei e hoʻi nei?

Aaron Moorhead: Manaʻo wau e hoʻi hou ana mākou i ka manawa no ka mea makaʻu iā mākou. He mea hiki ʻole ke wehewehe ʻia, pono mākou e ʻoluʻolu me kēlā ʻoiaʻiʻo. Akā ke hoʻohana nei mākou i ko mākou ola āpau e hoʻāʻo e ʻoluʻolu me ka ʻoiaʻiʻo e hala ana ka manawa, e hāʻule nā ​​mea āpau āu e ʻike ai, a ʻo ʻoe pū kekahi. Hoʻāʻo ka poʻe āpau e ʻoluʻolu me ia, ʻo ia kekahi o nā hakakā o ke ola holoʻokoʻa. A ʻoi aku ka ʻoluʻolu o kou noho pū me ia, ʻo ka hauʻoli loa o kāu. A ʻo kēlā ʻano ʻano o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Akā, he mea ia ʻaʻole i ʻae ʻia e kekahi mea o ka honua, koe wale nō ke hoʻokō ʻoe iā Nirvana.

Kelly McNeely: E pili ana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻana ma New Orleans, ʻo kēlā ʻano ke ʻano o ka hoʻolālā? A i ʻole ʻano hoʻoholo wale nō ʻoe, maopopo iā ʻoe, pono mākou e hana i kēia ma aneʻi?

Justin Benson: Kākau kikoʻī ʻia ka moʻolelo no New Orleans. He kākau hou paha ia, e waiho iā ia i kekahi kūlanakauhale ʻē aʻe. Ua kākau ʻia no New Orleans, no ka mea inā ʻoe he holehole i nā papa o ka manawa, ʻaʻole kahi kūlanakauhale ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ma ʻAmelika e hana i kēlā. ʻAʻole wau ʻike e pili ana i nā kānāwai lāʻau i nā ʻāina ʻē aʻe, akā ʻaʻole wau ʻike inā aia ma kahi o UK kahi e kūʻai aku ai nā mea hoʻohālikelike synthetic mea hoʻolālā ma luna o ka pā. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu, ma aneʻi ma Kanada aia kēlā?

Kelly McNeely: I kekahi ʻano. Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole nui ka nui, akā aia kekahi mau mea hiki iā ʻoe ke kūʻai.

Justin Benson: E like paha me K1 a me Spice. ʻAʻole, e like me, nā paʻakai ʻauʻau a mea like paha.

Kelly McNeely: ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole mamao loa mākou.

Justin Benson: Ke noiʻi nei au i nā paʻakai ʻauʻau i kēia manawa. A ua ʻike ʻoe, aia kekahi mau ʻano like, ke kāne nāna i ʻai ka maka o ke kāne, akā ʻike ʻia ʻaʻole pili ia i nā paʻakai ʻauʻau. ʻO kēlā wale nō me ka maʻi noʻonoʻo. 

Kelly McNeely: Makemake wale ʻo ia e ʻai i ka maka o kekahi.

Justin Benson: ʻAe. Akā ʻaneʻane hoihoi wau, pehea ka hopena o ka paʻakai paʻakai mea i ka paʻi? 

ʻO wai ka mea ʻike? A, ma ke ala, weliweli loa paha lākou, akā ʻaʻohe puke pai loiloi a nā hoa e pili ana i kēlā me kēia. ʻO ia ke kiko holoʻokoʻa o ka mākeke, no ka mea ʻaʻole lākou i aʻo ʻia. Akā ʻae, hoihoi ia. A ke manaʻo nei wau aia kekahi mau ʻano ʻano like ʻole o kēlā, kahi e like ai, a, maoli nō i kekahi mea e hana me nā paʻakai ʻauʻau. 

Kelly McNeely: Manaʻo wau he wehe maoli nā lāʻau synthetic i nā mea hiki ke hana me kēlā, no ka mea, inā ʻoe e hana nei i ka lāʻau synthetic, hiki iā ʻoe ke hana i kekahi mea āu e makemake ai, ʻeā?

Aaron Moorhead: He mea leʻaleʻa maoli kēlā, ka manaʻo. ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ʻano makaʻu maoli nā lāʻau synthetic, no ka mea like ia me ke kūʻai ʻana iā lākou mai kahi mea kūʻai aku lāʻau. Kūleʻa ʻole ʻia lāua, koe wale ka mea ʻē aʻe e hoʻololi nei i ka lāʻau [ʻakaʻaka]. No laila makaʻu maoli ia!

Justin Benson: ʻOi aku ka hilinaʻi o ka poʻe kūʻai lāʻau. 

Kelly McNeely: I kēia manawa, ua ʻike wau he nui nā elaborate o ʻoukou, nā ʻāpana set expansive maoli a ʻoukou e pāʻani pū ai. Pehea kēlā? Ke neʻe nei i kēlā pilikua - ʻaʻole au makemake e ʻōlelo i kekahi o nā hiʻohiʻona - akā ke holo nei i nā māla a me nā mea like.

Aaron Moorhead: He mea a mākou e makemake mau ai e hana, no laila ʻaʻole ia he hana koʻikoʻi loa, he "hoʻomaikaʻi i ke Akua, hiki iā mākou ke hana i kēia". I kekahi mau ʻano, ua manaʻo iki kēlā ala i kahi claustrophobic, no ka mea ʻoi aku ka nui o nā ʻoniʻoni i kahi manawa āu e laka ai i kahi mea, ʻaʻohe ala e loli ai, keu hoʻi inā kū hewa.

Akā i nā ʻano ʻē aʻe, hoʻokuʻu ia no ka mea ʻo ka mea nui loa - ʻo ka mea nui loa o nā mea nui - ʻoluʻolu loa. ʻO lākou kahi mea a mākou e hoʻolālā nui ai. A laila hana wale mākou, a maikaʻi ia. Akā he mea hoʻomākeʻaka ia, no ka mea, he mau lā wale nō ia o kahi a mākou e like ai, e ke kāne, nui a keu nā kumu waiwai i loaʻa iā mākou, ʻoiai ʻo ia ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni liʻiliʻi loa ma New Orleans i kēlā manawa - heʻuʻuku loa ia. kiʻi ʻoniʻoni.

Ua like mākou, e, nā ʻāpana a pau o ko mākou lolo a mākou e hoʻohana ai ke hana nei mākou i nā mea āpau, e hoʻomālamalama wale ʻia nō lākou āpau. Inā ʻoe e lawe i kahi MRI o mākou i ia manawa. Ke noʻonoʻo mau nei kou noʻonoʻo e like me, ma hea e kū ai ka mea hoʻouluulu? ʻIke ʻoe, ke noʻonoʻo nei i ka hoʻoponopono wale ʻana i kou poʻo. A no laila ua ʻike mākou i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole i loli maoli ke kaʻina hana. Hana wale nā ​​mea kino maoli i mua o ka kāmela.

Kelly McNeely: Hana nui ʻoukou i hope o nā mea - ka hoʻoponopono a me ka cinematography, nā mea like. ʻIke paha ʻoe i kēlā mea he manuahi hou aku no ʻoe? Hāʻawi iā ia iā ʻoe i kahi maʻalahi hou aʻe, a i ʻole ʻike iā ʻoe he koʻikoʻi hou aʻe? 

Justin Benson: ʻO ia wale nō ke ala āu e ʻike ai i ka hana i nā mea. Ua lilo ke kaʻina hana i ka hana ʻana - e like me ka hoʻohaumia ʻana i kou mau lima, a me ke kuhi ʻana. Akā ua ʻōlelo ʻia, ua lilo ka mea hoʻoponopono a mākou e hana pū nei i mea hoʻoponopono maikaʻi loa i kā mākou iho. Akā pono nō mākou e hana iā mākou iho e ʻike pehea e holo pono ai kēia mau mea.

Kelly McNeely: No laila e hana pū ana me Jamie Dornan lāua ʻo Anthony Mackie, pehea i lilo ai i mea?

Aaron Moorhead: Aia kekahi ʻākena i makemake wale i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni kūʻokoʻa, i ʻauana i ka hōʻike hope loa o Ka Hopena ma ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni indie o North Hollywood, a hele aku nā bonkers ma luna ona. A ʻo Jamie kekahi o kāna mea kūʻai aku, a ua hiki iā ia ke kiʻi iā ia iā ia. A ua like ia me he mea lā ʻekolu - like ia, maikaʻi, e hana kāua. A ʻo ka manawa wale nō, aia iā Jamie iā mākou, ʻo ia kekahi o nā mea kahi e hiki ai iā ʻoe ke ʻōlelo, e, ʻo wai nā mea hana a mākou e makemake ai e hana pū e makemake mau ai e hana pū me Jamie. A ʻo Anthony kekahi o lākou. ʻO ka mea laki, ua heluhelu ʻo ia i ka palapala a pane i ke ala like. No laila wikiwiki loa ia ke hiki mai. 

Akā ua kākau ʻia ka moʻolelo ma 2015. A a hiki i ka auwana ʻana o kēlā kanaka i loko o ka hale kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ʻike ʻoe, e hana ana mākou Ka Hopena. Akā yeah, he kupaianaha loa lākou. ʻO ka mea mua, ʻo kā lākou ola i hana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. A laila ʻo ka lua, kā lākou hana a me kā lākou pilikino mai ka kāmela maʻalahi wale nō i ka mea āpau.

Kelly McNeely: He aha nā mea a ʻoukou e aloha ai e pili ana i ka hana ʻana i ka kinima ʻano kikoʻī? ʻIke wau he nīnau laulā kēlā. 

Aaron Moorhead: Makemake au e hūnā i nā mea a mākou e makemake ai e kamaʻilio e pili ana i kahi manaʻo maikaʻi e like me ka lio Trojan. ʻOiai inā ʻaʻohe ou manaʻo maikaʻi, hiki i ka hoʻonāukiuki a i ka proselytizing maoli paha. Akā no mākou hiki iā mākou, hiki iā mākou ke hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e hoʻololi iā ʻoe ma ka hoʻokipa ʻana iā ʻoe. A ʻike ʻoe he ʻokoʻa ka mea i ka hopena.

Kelly McNeely: A ke ʻano o ka kamaʻilio ʻana i kēlā lio Trojan, he aha kāu i makemake ai e hoʻāʻo a komo pū me Lōkahi? Aia kekahi mea kikoʻī? 

Justin Benson: ʻIke ʻoe, aia kahi neʻe maikaʻi ʻole ma ʻAmelika i kēia manawa e aloha i kahi wā i hala e maikaʻi wale ana no kahi ʻāpana liʻiliʻi o ka lehulehu. A hoʻokumu ʻia kēlā i ka moemoeā i kēia manawa maikaʻi loa. A ʻaʻole ʻoiaʻiʻo. A aia kekahi mea e pili ana i ka haʻi ʻana i kahi moʻolelo e pili ana i ka hōʻike ʻana i ka wā i hala no ka monster.

Kelly McNeely: ʻAʻohe “nui hou”, ʻeā?

Aaron Moorhead: ʻAe, hānai ka wā i hala, a he hana mana ka mea o kēia manawa. ʻO kēlā mau laina ʻelua i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, akā, ʻo ia kā mākou e ʻōlelo nei. 

Kelly McNeely: He aha ka mea aʻe no ʻoukou? ʻIke wau he ʻano nui kāu o nā papahana i ka hele. He aha kāu makemake e hana aʻe?

Aaron Moorhead: He mea hou kā mākou i kākau ʻia, a e hoʻāʻo paha mākou e kī i kēlā me ka hiki. Ke hoʻopau nei kēia āpau. A manaʻo wau Lōkahi e wehe paha i kekahi mau puka e pili ana i nā mea nui maoli. No laila mākou e ʻike ai i kēlā mau mea āpau, akā ʻaʻohe mea i hiki iaʻu - e kala mai e pili ana i ka pane ʻole, pane ʻoʻopa, akā ʻaʻole naʻe wau e makemake e kamaʻilio e pili ana ia mea a hoʻohiki paha wau e hūnā. Inā ʻaʻole hiki ia, a laila ʻo ia wale nō ka lamer, ʻike ʻoe? [ʻakaʻaka]

Kelly McNeely: I kēia manawa me New Orleans, ʻike wau he wahi waiwai nui kēlā. Aia ma hea nā wahi a i ʻole nā ​​hoʻonohonoho āu i makemake ai e hoʻohui a kahiʻī paha? 

Justin Benson: Hoihoi. Manaʻo wau ua kākau ʻia kekahi o ka palapala mai ka hoʻomanaʻo ʻana i ka huakaʻi ʻana i New Orleans. No laila ua kākau ʻia e like me, he aha kēlā mau wahi i loko o ko mākou poʻo. Akā ua hele ʻo Aaron a me aʻu e mākaʻikaʻi iā ia ma 2016 - ʻaʻohe kālā, hele maoli mākou iā mākou iho a nānā a puni i nā wahi e ʻike i ka mea e holo pono. A ua hoʻohuli ʻia mai ka hoʻomanaʻo, ʻoi aku a pololei ʻole paha ka pololei o kēlā mau mea. Akā aia kekahi mau mea a mākou i ʻike ʻole ai ke waiho mākou iā lākou i ka palapala, e like me kahi o ka pōhaku, no ka laʻana. He wānana wale nō kēlā e like me, "aia paha kēia no ka mea aia ma laila ka muliwai ʻo Misisipi", a huli ia aia ma laila.

Aaron Moorhead: Ua haʻalele ʻia he ʻeono mau hae i ka palapala. A ke sweating nei kā mākou luna wahi i nā pōkā e hoʻāʻo nei e hōʻoia i loaʻa iā mākou, no ka mea he wahi paʻakikī loa ia e kī. Lawe ʻia e ka holoholona lōhiu a weliweli ia. Akā, akā yeah, manaʻo wau, maikaʻi kēlā. 

Justin Benson: ʻAe, a ke manaʻo nei wau ua kākau ʻia kekahi o kēlā mau wahi mai ka like, Atlas Obscura pūnaewele, e like me "he aha ka mea ʻē a weliweli i New Orleans", a ke ʻike nei pēlā. No laila laki maoli mākou i ke kī ʻana i kēlā mau wahi.

Kelly McNeely: He mea kupaianaha ka haalele ʻana i nā Hae ʻeono, he wahi ʻoluʻolu paha kēlā e kī aku ai. 

Justin Benson: ʻAe, ʻōlelo lākou iā ʻoe ua like lākou me he mea paʻakikī loa no ka mea ua lawe ʻia e nā alligators a me nā ʻāhiu ʻāhiu. ʻIke wale wau e like me ʻekolu mau alligators ma laila.

Aaron Moorhead: ʻO kekahi mau alligators. ʻO ia no ka mea he alagua wranglers kā mākou. He pros lākou. 

Kelly McNeely: I kēia manawa he nīnau ākea loa kēia, a ʻike wau i nā mea o ka wā i hala. Akā inā ʻoe e hele a hiki paha i ka huakaʻi ke hoʻi i kekahi manawa kikoʻī, makemake anei ʻoe, a i ka manawa hea ʻoe e makemake ai e hoʻi?

Aaron Moorhead: Ke manaʻo nei ʻoe e noho wale, a i ʻole e aʻoaʻo aku i ka honua e pili ana i ka huliau? 

Kelly McNeely: ʻO lāua ʻelua. ʻO a i ʻole. ʻAʻohe ou noho ma laila. Hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa he ʻehiku mau minuke ma laila.

Aaron Moorhead: Loaʻa, loaʻa. Ehiku mau minuke. Ok.

Justin Benson: Auē, kāne. Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole wau makemake. 

Aaron Moorhead: Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole wau makemake i kekahi. 

Kelly McNeely: Hānai ka wā i hala. 

Aaron Moorhead:  [ʻakaʻaka] ʻAe. Hānai wale ka hala. ʻAe. Manaʻo wale wau e like me ka hoʻi ʻana a me ke ʻano, e, e ke kāne. Mea pono nui. No laila aia nā makahiki 2000 mua, e like me ka mea a Limp Bizkit, he aha? ʻAʻole, kau, a laila like ia me nā pale poʻohiwi 90s? Ah! ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke noʻonoʻo i ka wā i ka makahiki 80 ... ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole, makemake wau e ʻike i nā Pōhaku ʻōpio maoli i ka huakaʻi. Leʻaleʻa kēlā i ʻehiku mau minuke. ʻAe, e hoʻolohe wale iā lākou e pāʻani ana i ka ʻoluʻolu i ka wā o ke kūʻē ma laila. ʻOluʻolu kēlā.

 

No nā mea hou aʻe ma Justin Benson a me Aaron Moorhead, e nānā i kā mākou nīnauele ma mua kamailio e pili ana i Ka Hopena.