Kaumaha - i pāʻani ma ke ʻano he ʻāpana o ʻO Fantasia Fest 2021 - ʻo kaʻu kiʻi ʻoniʻoni paha ia o ka makahiki (i kēia manawa). I koʻu nānā ʻana iā ia, ua ʻike wau e noho wau me ka mea kākau / alakaʻi / hoʻoponopono / hoa Kanada ʻo Rob Jabbaz e kūkākūkā e pili ana i ka huhū piha o Kaumaha.

ʻO Rob - nāna i lawe ka home o ka New Flesh Award ma Fantasia (no ka hiʻona ʻoi loa) - ua lawe lokomaikaʻi i ka manawa e kamaʻilio pū me aʻu e pili ana i nā zombies, ka weliweli weliweli, a me ke ʻano o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni.

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Kelly McNeely: No laila ke heluhelu wau i ka wehewehe o Kaumaha, ua noʻonoʻo wau iā Garth Ennis ' aoao… ʻO ia kahi kikoʻī o ka hoʻoulu ʻana iā ʻoe? Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i kahi i hele mai ai kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, a no hea mai kēia manaʻo?

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo. O koʻu manaʻo, aoao he mea hoʻoikaika nui. Akā ʻaʻole ia i hoʻomaka ma laila. Ua like ke ʻano o ke ʻano, ua hiki ke maʻi ahulau, a laila ua haʻi mai koʻu haku iaʻu e kākau wau i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, e like me, ”. A like wau, maikaʻi, he aha kāu e makemake ai e hana? 

Ua like ʻo ia, e pili ana i kahi maʻi maʻi, a i ʻole. ʻO kahi ʻano zombie ka mea āna i makemake ai. Ua make maoli ʻo ia i kēlā. ʻIke ʻoe, aia kēia mau hōʻike āpau ma Netflix, like Kauwela ʻEleʻele a me nā mea. A like ia, no ke aha e pono ai i kahi ʻē aʻe Nā kino make e hele wāwae nei? Why ma laila e like me ʻehā mau koho ʻē aʻe i kēlā? he mea ʻole ia iaʻu.

Kuhi au, maopopo iā ʻoe, e like me, “ʻē, auwē, ke haohao nei au i ka mea e hana nei, ke haohao nei au inā paha ka mea like e hana nei i kekahi ʻāpana o ka honua”. Hoihoi paha ia. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu, maikaʻi paha ia, multi-layered a me kēlā mau mea āpau. Akā makemake au i kahi mea e lawe i ka pae aʻe. A hoʻomaka wale wau i ka nānā ʻana i nā mea, a heluhelu wau aoao hoʻi i ka wā i puka mua ai. A like wau, e, e nānā paha wau aoao hou. Pēlā wau i hana ai. A manaʻo wau he ʻoluʻolu. No ka mea ua hoʻohui ʻia kēlā ʻano pae keu e like me kahi hoʻoweliweli. 

A ʻoiaʻiʻo, inā ʻoe e noʻonoʻo e pili ana i ia mea, he aha ia ka hōʻino a i ʻole ka hoʻomāinoino wale ʻia, a leʻaleʻa i ka hōʻeha ʻana i ka poʻe. Ma muli o ka hoʻohālikelike aʻu e hoʻohana mau nei i ka wā e hāʻawi ai wau i nā nīnauele, e like me, inā hoʻouka ʻia ʻoe e kahi holoholona a nalowale kou maka, hiki iā ʻoe ke kāpae i kēlā. Akā inā ʻoe e lele i loko o ke alaloa, a ʻakaʻaka kekahi kanaka ke kālai ʻo ia i kou alo me kahi mea ʻoki pahu, ʻike ʻoe, ke nānā ʻoe i ke aniani, ʻike ʻoe, ʻelima mau makahiki mai ia manawa, e nui ana ia. ʻoi aku ka paʻakikī i ke ʻano o ka hana, ʻike ʻoe, a no laila ʻo ia ka ʻokoʻa i hana ʻia e ka malice, ʻeā? No laila like wau, ʻano hoihoi kēlā. 

Akā ka pilikia me aoao ʻO lākou wale nō he zombies, koe naʻe ka mea ʻāpau i ka poʻe. A like ia, ʻike ʻoe, he ʻano kēlā, ʻaneʻane ma laila. A ʻo kekahi mea ʻē aʻe, ʻo ia kēlā aoao ʻano maoli nō Nā kino make e hele wāwae nei mea kahi e pili ana i ka poʻe i pakele. A he aha ka hopena, e pili ana i ka pehea e lilo ai ʻoe i kanaka shitty e hana i kēia honua shitty. Heluhelu wau iā lākou āpau, a ʻo ia nō ka mea e kō ai i lalo. ʻO ia e like me ka shittier ʻoi aku ʻoe, ʻo ka mākaukau loa āu e hana ai me kēia ao, kēia ao ghastly honua hiki ʻole ke haʻi ʻia ʻo ia ka honua o aoao. A ʻo ia ka mea e pili ana. 

Akā me kaʻu, ua like wau, maikaʻi, maikaʻi, he aha kaʻu me ke kapikala A, a like wau, ʻeā, e pili ana ia i ka poʻe ʻaʻohe o lākou ola e hauʻoli ai lākou. A manaʻo lākou he ʻano hemo a ʻaʻohe o lākou pilina pili, a ʻaʻole hauʻoli lākou i kā lākou mau hana a me ko lākou ola a me kā lākou mau hoʻoholo. A ʻaʻole lākou ʻike pehea e kiʻi ai i kahi ʻano hoʻokuʻu a pakele paha mai kēlā, a ʻo kēlā me kēia lā he ʻano like me ka noho ʻana i kēia ola o ka makaʻu a me ka huhū. A huhū kēia ipu ahi i kou manaʻo, a laila i kekahi lā, aia kahi maʻi e ʻae wale i ka ʻae ʻana i nā mea āpau a maikaʻi a loaʻa koke kahi kumu i kou ola. A pili pono ke kumu i kēlā huhū a me ka huhū nui, a ʻike ʻoe, ka moekolohe a me kēia ʻano mea āpau. No laila, like wau, maikaʻi, maikaʻi kēlā. E hana mākou i kahi ʻano ʻoniʻoni e like me kēlā. Akā like, e ʻano like ia me kahi virus e hana i kēlā, a i ʻole kekahi mea. 

ʻO ka mea virus i ke ala i hope, e like me, ʻaʻole wau i manaʻo ʻaʻole ia kahi hana nui. ʻIke ʻoe, he ʻano like nō ia, ʻae, ke ʻano o ka hopena he virus ia, ʻike ʻoe, malia he malihini paha ia, a i ʻole he kumu kupua paha, ʻo wai ka mea mālama. Akā ke kuhi, hele wale mākou i kahi kahi e hiki ai i ka poʻe ke hana i kēia mau mea i kekahi poʻe ʻē aʻe. A ʻokoʻa aoao, hiki, makemake - makemake wau, kamaʻilio lākou i aoao, 'ōlelo lākou i kekahi manawa i kahi mea lepo ma aneʻi a ma laila, a ʻoluʻolu - akā makemake wau e hōʻike nui lākou iā lākou iho, a lilo maoli i poʻe. A manaʻo wau hiki maoli nō ia, ʻike ʻoe, i kekahi manawa i kēlā kōmike, akā ua hana wau i kaʻu ala. A iaʻu, ʻoi aku ka nui e pili ana i ka Hoʻopaʻi ʻia o ka Nerds ʻaoʻao. ʻO ia kahi ʻano mea hoihoi iaʻu e kākau. 

A eia kekahi, pono wau e hoʻohui pū aia aia - ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu kou mākaukau loa i ka moʻokalaleo fiction - akā aia kahi moʻolelo pōkole na kahi wahine i kapa ʻia ʻo Raccoona Sheldon - manaʻo wau ʻo Alice Sheldon kona inoa maoli, akā ʻo Raccoona wale nō. ka inoa cooler ala. E kāhea wale mākou iā ia ma kēlā inoa nāna i kākau kēlā moʻolelo ma lalo - akā kapa ʻia ka moʻolelo ʻo The Screwfly Solution. A - ua ʻike anei ʻoe i kēlā? 

Kelly McNeely: Maopopo iaʻu ua hana lākou i Nā haku o ka weliweli paukū ma luna o laila, ua ʻike wau i kēlā. 

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: Ua maikaʻi. ʻĀ, ʻike ʻoe, e haʻi wau iā ʻoe i kēia, pili loa ka hoʻopili ʻana. Hoʻopaʻa iā… pehea wau e ʻōlelo ai i kēia. E like me, e pili ana i ke kiʻi ʻana i ka mea e pili ana i ka mea, hemolele ia, akā ma nā ʻano e like me ke kani - i manaʻo nui ʻia, ʻike ʻoe, i hana ʻia no TV. Aia ʻo Elliott Gould i loko, akā ke pāʻani nei ʻo ia i ke kaula ʻelua iā Jason Priestley. A like ʻoe, he aha ka pō e hele nei ma aneʻi? A weliweli kēlā wahine hana keaka i ke kaikamahine. A ke ʻōlelo nei au, hilahila wale ia, no ka mea he moʻolelo maikaʻi loa kēlā. Ua kākau ʻia e like me Dracula, kahi e hōʻuluʻulu ai i nā leka. A maikaʻi maoli ia - paipai wau iā ia, aia ma YouTube ma ke ʻano he audiobook, hiki iā ʻoe ke moe wale i laila a hoʻolohe iā ia e like me ʻekolu mau hola a i ʻole. 

Akā nō naʻe, ʻo ke kumu aʻu e hoʻāʻo nei e hōʻike, ua lawe mai lākou i kēia manaʻo o ke kāne a me ka huhū e like me ka mea like. E like me ke kuapo. A no laila ua hoʻomaka wau e noʻonoʻo i loko o koʻu lolo, aia kekahi e like me kēia mau neona liʻiliʻi kokoke loa kekahi i kekahi, a ʻo ka mea āpau e ulu aʻe kahi maʻi liʻiliʻi ma laila a hana i kahi pilina ma waena o nā mea ʻelua a laila ʻo ia wale nō. lawe. A laila noʻonoʻo wau, a, maikaʻi kēlā. E wehewehe mākou i kēlā ala. A e kamaʻilio nui a lōʻihi hoʻi i ka hopena e ʻōlelo ana i nā mea āpau. 

Kelly McNeely: No laila yno Kanada mai ʻoe, pehea ʻoe i hoʻopau ai i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli loa ma Taiwan?

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: ʻO wau wale nō ma aneʻi i kēlā manawa. Ua hele mai wau i Taiwan, no ka mea kuhi au he ʻōpio wau, ua like wau me 25. A noʻonoʻo wale wau, e, ʻo Taiwan ia, he mau hoaaloha kaʻu i hele ma laila, a ke hana nei lākou i nā graffiti a me nā mea, a ʻo wau ua hoihoi i kēlā. ʻO kēlā kahi mea aʻu i hana ai i koʻu wā ʻōpio, ʻoiai i ka hala ʻana o 25, aia wau i ka graffiti. A laila ua hele mai wau i Taiwan no ka mea manaʻo wau he ʻoluʻolu ke ʻano o ke ala wale i kahi kūlanakauhale ʻē aʻe a kūʻai paha i kahi kāmela a paʻi kiʻi i kekahi o nā mea. Hoʻonohonoho pono ʻole ʻoe i kou wā ʻōpio. A laila a laila hele wau a hana wau ia mea, a laila maopopo iaʻu hiki iaʻu ke hana ma Taiwan no kekahi mau hola liʻiliʻi ma mua o koʻu pono e ola. Hiki iaʻu ke hana 18 mau hola i ka hebedoma a i ʻole kekahi mea. No laila like wau, ʻoluʻolu, he aha kaʻu e hana ai me kēia manawa kaʻawale? Ua hoʻāʻo wau e hoʻoikaika e pili ana i koʻu wā e hiki mai ana. Ua hoihoi wau i ka hoʻonaninani a me nā mea ma mua akā ua hoʻomaka wau e ʻano maoli e pili ana iā ia, a hoʻomaka wau e aʻo iaʻu iho - e like me YouTube a me nā mea - pehea e hoʻohana ai ma hope o nā hopena a me ka Cinema 4D a me nā mea ʻole. A laila hoʻomaka wau i ka hana i kēlā, ua hiki iaʻu ke hoʻololi i ka hana ʻana i nā ʻoihana. 

Ma kekahi ʻano, ua like wau me he iʻa nui i loko o kahi loko iʻa, no ka mea, ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o ka pūʻulu mākaukau aʻu i hoʻomohala ai ma mua o ka nui o nā poʻe ʻē aʻe, akā e like me loko o kekahi ʻano o ke kumukūʻai. A laila ʻike ʻoe, hoʻomau ka manawa, a laila kekahi o nā kāne aʻu e hana nei i kahi ʻoihana no ka mea i kono iaʻu e ʻaina awakea a i ʻole ʻaina awakea a i ʻole kekahi mea. A ʻo ka mea hou aʻe āu e ʻike ai, ke kamaʻilio nei wau me ke kanaka i pau i lilo i kālā noʻu a me kuʻu luna, ʻo Jeff Huang. 

A laila ʻano hoʻi i ka hoʻomaka o kēia, ʻōlelo ke kāne, aia, eia ka ʻo Coronavirus, e hele kāua e hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Ua pani ʻia ʻo Hollywood, ʻaʻohe o mākou hoʻokūkū iki i ka hoʻoilo. No laila e hoʻāʻo wale e hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a waiho i waho a ʻike pehea ia. Manaʻo wau ua ʻoi aku kona hoihoi i ka hana ʻana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. ʻO ka hoʻoikaika i ka loaʻa kālā ʻana mai kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻaʻole ia he ʻāpana o ka hoʻoholo. Manaʻo wau he ʻano like ʻo ia, ʻeā, ʻike ʻoe, e hoʻohuli mākou i kahi dālā a malia e loaʻa kālā iā kāua. Akā ʻo ka mea nui ka ʻano like, hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a kiʻi ma waho. 

ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ua waiwai kēia mau kāne, e like me, na ke Akua e hoʻopōmaikaʻi iā ia, maopopo iā ʻoe, makemake lākou e hele i kahi ākea, a i ʻole makemake lākou e hana kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a i ʻole, ʻike ʻoe i kaʻu e ʻōlelo nei? Ke hele a makua paha lākou, hoʻomaka lākou e noʻonoʻo e pili ana i kā lākou hoʻoilina, a i ʻole hoʻomaka lākou e noʻonoʻo e pili ana i kā lākou leʻaleʻa a i ʻole ko lākou mau moemoeā. No laila he aha ia, ʻike ʻoe, hoʻopōmaikaʻi ke Akua iā Jeff no ka hāʻawi wale ʻana mai iaʻu i ka manawa o ka lā a laila e ʻae iaʻu e hana Kaumaha, me he mea lā e kani hou nei me ka nui o nā poʻe i kēia mau lā. Ke kiʻi nei wau i nā poʻe he nui e like me ʻoe e hollering ana iaʻu e hana i nā nīnauele, e haʻi ana iaʻu ua makemake lākou iā ia a me nā mea. No laila ʻoluʻolu. ʻO ka hapanui kahi hoʻomaha o ka ʻoiaʻiʻo. E like maoli me ka hōʻoia o koʻu hiki ke ʻike ʻia, ʻike ʻoe, e like me, a, aʻu hiki hana, ʻike ʻoe? 

Kelly McNeely: Ke ʻano zombie - e like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai ma mua - hiki ke luhi loa, a hoʻonui ʻia hoʻi. Manaʻo wau hiki ke lilo i mea maʻalahi loa i kekahi manawa, ʻo ia kekahi o nā mea aʻu i aloha nui ai Kaumaha ke kāhea nei iā ia he kiʻi zombie - kahi aʻu i ʻike ai i kahi mau wahi ʻelua - ʻaneʻane paha he mea hōʻeha ia iā ia, no ka mea ʻaʻole ia he kiʻi zombie. He mea ʻokoʻa loa ia mai kēlā. 

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: ʻO wau wale nō kahi e hele nei me kēlā ma ke ʻano o ke kālepa ʻana, e pili ana i, e like me, maʻalahi ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana. E like me, Rue Morgue, ua kākau lākou ʻo ia ke "kiʻi ʻoniʻoni zombie ʻoi loa a kolohe a hana ʻia". ʻO ke ʻano kālepa o ia, ke kāhea ʻana iā ia he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni zombie, kuhi wau kōkua wale ia i ka poʻe e ʻike i ka mea a lākou e komo nei. A maikaʻi nō hoʻi ia, i ke ʻano, maopopo iā ʻoe, ma hope o ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, i nā loiloi, loaʻa ka manawa kūpono e like ai, ʻaʻole kēia kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni zombie. A i ke ʻano e ʻōlelo pololei i kāu mea i ʻōlelo ai. Akā ʻoki maoli nō wau iā ʻoe, no laila e ʻoluʻolu e hoʻomau me kāu e ʻōlelo nei.

Kelly McNeely: ʻAʻole, ua pane ʻoe, maikaʻi kēlā. ʻO ia kahi ʻano aʻu e makemake ai e nīnau, e pili ana i nā ʻano, pehea kou manaʻo e pili ana i ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana o ia ʻano kiʻi ʻoniʻoni zombie? Akā manaʻo wau he ala maikaʻi loa kēlā e wehewehe ai. ʻAno paha ia e huki i ka poʻe i loko, akā ke nānā lākou iā ia, like, a, shit, ʻano ʻokoʻa loa kēia. 

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: ʻO kēia ʻike āpau kahi ʻike aʻo nui. A like, ʻo kekahi o nā mea aʻu i aʻo ai, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻowahāwahā i ka palaualelo o nā mea kūʻai aku pāpaho, a me ia hoʻi - ʻaʻohe lawehala - akā ka paʻi. He palaualelo hoʻi ka paʻi paʻi. A makemake lākou e ʻano slot wale i ka ʻike hou i loko o ka hale e kū nei ma laila. Maopopo iā 'oe? ʻO ke kiʻi manō manō, eia ia, he kiʻi ʻoni manō hou. A like pū, makemake wau, ke hoʻomaka ʻoe e hoʻāʻo e hāʻawi i ka nitty gritty e pili ana Kaumaha a ke pili ana ia, hoʻomaka ka mau maka o ka poʻe he nui i ko lākou mau maka. No laila ʻoi aku ka maʻalahi o ke ʻano o ka hele pū me ka mea zombie. 

Kelly McNeely: Hele ʻoe i ka weliweli weliweli ma kahi? A inā pēlā, he aha ka mea e huki ai iā ʻoe i laila? He ʻano a i ʻole subgenre āu e makemake ai e hoʻomau i ka hana?

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: ʻĀ, he aha kā mākou e manaʻo ai e ka weliweli weliweli? E like, e wehewehe i kēlā. 

Kelly McNeely: Weliweli weliweli, iaʻu - makemake wau, Kaumaha he ʻano kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻokoʻa loa, ma nā ʻano like, he aha lā ia - akā ma ka ʻōlelo o ka weliweli weliweli, iaʻu kēlā kēlā mea ʻeleʻele maoli, visceral maoli, koa maoli, e like me hyper, ultra-tutu. Nānā ʻoe e like He kiʻi ʻoniʻoni Serbia, Trauma, Baskin, Atroz…

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: ʻAe, ʻae

Kelly McNeely: Hoʻokaʻawale ʻia kēlā mau ʻano ma ke ʻano he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli loa. A Kaumaha, Manaʻo wau he ʻano weliweli loa ia e pili ana. No laila hoihoi wau, he subgenre ia āu i huki ʻia ai? ʻO ia kekahi mea āu i noʻonoʻo ai, e like, makemake wau e hana i kēia ʻano kiʻi ʻoniʻoni? A pehea i hāʻule ai kēlā ʻano ʻano āpau iā ʻoe? 

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: ʻO wau e, ua ʻike wau i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni āu i ʻōlelo ai, nānā wale wau i nā mea āpau. A kuhi au he ʻano like ia me ka mea hana kūpono no ka papahana kūpono. E like me, hoʻomanaʻo wau i kēia hoʻopaʻapaʻa ma ka ʻaoʻao o ke ala me kēia kanaka Kelemania e pili ana i koʻu manaʻo World War Z omo, no ka mea ʻaʻole ia he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli. E pili ana ia i nā zombies, akā like ia me ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni zombie mua ʻaʻole ia he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni weliweli. A ke haʻi mai nei ʻo ia iaʻu ʻo ia ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni zombie ʻoi loa āna i ʻike ai. A like wau, akā aia i hea ke ʻano kupaianaha o like, kou poʻe hoaaloha a me kou a me kou mau hoanoho a me kou mau kamaʻāina ua make a pala, a honi lākou, a ke heleleʻi nei lākou a hoʻopailua ʻia.

ʻO ia ka ʻike maikaʻi ʻole loa, putrid. A weliweli loa ia. Akā ʻoi aku ma mua o ka weliweli, ke kipi nei ia, a makemake ʻoe e hoʻolei mau. Inā mākou e hele zombie - e like me nā zombies maoli, ʻaʻole like me ka huhū huhū a i ʻole mutant a i ʻole, a i ʻole Kaumaha - a like ia me ka poʻe make e hoʻi hou i ke ola, e like me, manaʻo wau ma ka hoʻomaʻemaʻe ʻana i kēlā ala a hana wale i nā hui nui o nā poʻe e holo ana iā ʻoe, ʻaʻole ia he momi a ʻaʻole pili maoli i ka pala, a e pili ana i ke kino wāwahi ʻana a inā ʻaʻole pili ia i kēlā mau mea, a laila like ia, ʻaʻole ia he kiʻi zombie. Makemake, no ke aha e hoʻoluhi ai? He aha ke kiko o kekahi o kēia? ʻAʻole loaʻa iaʻu. 

A pēlā pū me Kaumaha, Ua like wau i mea e hiki ai ke kuhi, akā he kolohe ka manaʻo, ʻo ke kiko ke ʻano o ka ʻino. ʻO ia ka mea weliweli. ʻO ia ke kumu e makaʻu ai kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a no ke aha - inā makemake ʻoe e makaʻu - no laila ʻo ia ke kumu e hele ai ʻoe e ʻike i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Pono e loaʻa ka hana hoʻomāinoino kiʻi, pono e loaʻa ka hana kolohe kolohe nui loa, a pono e kūkulu ʻia i kahi ala kūpono. ʻO ka hapanui. Aia kekahi mahele o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni kahi aʻu i hele ai me ka manaʻo e hele i luna, no ka mea makemake wau - ʻaʻole wau i ʻike inā ua holo - akā like, makemake wale wau e ʻano wink i ka poʻe hoʻolohe a hiki ke ʻoluʻolu. o like, maikaʻi inā makemake ʻoe i kēia. Maopopo iā 'oe? He maikaʻi inā hauʻoli ʻoe i nā mea e hana nei i kēia manawa. A ke haʻohaʻo nei wau inā ʻoe e ʻike i ka ʻāpana aʻu e kamaʻilio ai, ka ʻāpana kahi e hele iki ai ma luna o ka luna.

Kelly McNeely: Aia nā ʻāpana ʻelua aʻu e noʻonoʻo nei, aia ma laila ka ʻāpana hoʻokahi me ka lāʻau o ka iwi. A ʻo ka ʻāpana ʻē aʻe i kamaʻilio maoli mai iaʻu, ʻo ia nā keiki me nā ʻōpeʻapeʻa baseball. 

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: ʻOluʻolu kēlā mau ʻāpana. Makemake au i ka iwi i ʻike i ka ʻāpana. ʻO wau wale nō e pili ana i ka hana ʻana i kahi nui nui. A ke kamaʻilio nei kēlā ʻano, i kekahi fetish. E like inā ʻoe e makemake i kahi pūnaewele porn a aia kahi mahele like o ka like, spaghetti a me nā meatballs ma nā tits a nā mea o ke kaikamahine e like me kēlā, ʻike ʻoe i kaʻu e manaʻo nei? E like me kēlā, ke kī pū nei nā neurons like me kēlā mau mea ʻelua. 

Akā i kēlā me kēia hihia, ʻo ka ʻāpana aʻu e kamaʻilio maoli nei, ʻo ia ka ʻāpana o ke subway i ka wā i hou ai ke kanaka i ka ʻāʻī o kāna kāne a huki ʻo ia i ka mea i loko o ke kō o ke koko. A ʻoi aku ka nui o ke koko ma mua o ka hiki. Akau? A ʻo ia iaʻu, ua like ia me ka manawa hoʻokahi o ka like, hyperreality. Ua lawe au i kahi cue mai Fede Alvarez, mai ka hewa make hana hou mai 2013, ka ʻāpana kahi e ʻoki ai ke kaikamahine i kona lima me ka pahi uila. Nui wale ke koko, akā kūkulu ʻia me he koʻikoʻi. A like wau, maikaʻi loa kēia, no ka mea, ʻo ʻoe me kou mau hoa aloha i ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a ke hoʻopuka nei lākou iā ia. Akā he code huna kēia ma waena o ʻoe a me ka luna, ʻike ʻoe makemake ʻo ia i kēia no ka leʻaleʻa. No laila ʻo ia kahi ʻano aʻu e makemake ai e hana. Makemake au i kēlā mea pili i hana ma laila. Manaʻoʻiʻo wau i kuhi ʻia ia. ʻAʻole paha ia, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu. Akā makemake wau e manaʻo he mea i manaʻo ʻia e kamaʻilio i nā mea aloha weliweli a me nā mea aloha weliweli, ʻike ʻoe?

No laila e hoʻi i kāu nīnau kumu, pili ia i ka mea hana kūpono no ka papahana kūpono. ʻO kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e pili ana i ka hoʻomāinoino a he mea nui ka leo. Ua haʻi wau ma mua i ke kani, e like me ka hewa make mea, ke kumu hewa make he ʻano like me ka wink wink mea iā ia, a ʻo ka mea a Fede Alvarez i hana ai ua kāʻili ʻia ʻo ia i kēlā mau mea hoʻomākeʻaka, a ua hoʻāʻo wale ʻo ia e hana i kahi ʻano koʻikoʻi aʻe. A ʻaʻole makemake kekahi poʻe i kēlā, manaʻo wau he manaʻo maikaʻi kēlā. A ʻo ia ke ʻano o ka mea aʻu i hoʻāʻo ai e hana pū Kaumaha, koe wale nō wau e noʻonoʻo nui nei ma nā laina like, ʻo Hong Kong exploitation cinema. E like me, kekahi o kaʻu punahele ʻO ka maʻi maʻi Ebola. Ua ʻike paha ʻoe i kēlā? 

Kelly McNeely: ʻAʻole wau, ʻaʻole.

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: Ke hele ʻoe me aʻu i ka pepeiaohao, e kiaʻi. Aia ma YouTube, manaʻo wau. Manaʻo wau hiki iā ʻoe ke nānā wale me ka manuahi. Akā e ʻike ʻoe i kēia e pili ana i ka nui o nā ʻāpana III Hong Kong kiʻiʻoniʻoni aia kekahi ʻano o kēia ʻano ʻē, e like me, ke ʻano o ka hoʻomākeʻaka haʻahaʻa, e like me ke keiki hoʻomākeʻaka, ma loko o ia mau mea āpau. A ʻaneʻane like kēia leo ʻano ʻē mai ke alakaʻi e ʻōlelo ana, he ʻōlelo hoʻomakeʻaka wale kēia, a i ʻole like, ʻaʻohe o kēia e noʻonoʻo pono. Akā ʻaʻole ma ke ʻano o ʻoe ʻaʻole pono e lawe i kēia me ka noʻonoʻo, ʻoi aku ke ʻano o ke ʻano, ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e lawe i kēia mau mea i ke ola. E like me ka ʻōlelo hoʻomake wale a ka wahine he ʻōlelo hoʻomākeʻaka, he mea hoʻomākeʻaka ka pepehi kanaka ʻana o kahi keiki, ʻo ia ka manaʻo. ua 'ike k ʻO ka maʻi maʻi Ebola i ka wā i hoʻokumu ʻia ma Fantasia Fest, i koʻu wā ʻōpio. A ʻaʻole wau i ʻike i ka makaʻu maoli i ka hale kiʻiʻoniʻoni ma mua, kahi aʻu i makemake ai, ʻaʻole wau i ʻike inā mākaukau wau no ka mea e hōʻike mai kēia iaʻu. Me he mea lā, no nā ʻāina ʻē kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ʻokoʻa kā lākou mau kūlana, hōʻike paha lākou iaʻu i kahi mea ʻaʻole wau mākaukau e ʻike. A ʻano hana lākou [ʻakaʻaka]. 

Akā i kēlā me kēia hihia, manaʻo wau he ʻoluʻolu ke hana i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e like me kēlā, koe wale nō e hana koʻikoʻi, e like me ka hoʻomākeʻaka ʻole. Maliʻa paha he mau mea liʻiliʻi ma ʻō a ma ʻaneʻi, akā ʻaʻole lākou he hoʻomākeʻaka, he ʻano mea liʻiliʻi wale nō nā mea hoʻohenehene a mea ʻē aʻe paha. Akā i kēlā me kēia hihia, ʻeā, ke nānā nei i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni o Hong Kong, a laila ʻano like me, ʻoluʻolu kēia. Akā e haʻalele kāua i ka hoʻomākeʻaka a ʻike i ka mea e hana.

Kelly McNeely: A manaʻo wau he hana maikaʻi ke kau ʻia ma Taiwan, no ka mea manaʻo wau ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hele me ka hana ʻana i kēia ʻano mea ma aneʻi, e laʻa. E like me kēlā ʻaʻole ke ʻano o ka weliweli Kanada a mākou e manaʻo ai. 

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: E ʻae ʻoe iaʻu i kahi ʻano o ka helu wahi, no ka mea ʻaʻole lākou e hana i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e like me kēia ma Taiwan, ʻo kēia wale nō kahi e like me ia. A pono wau e kaomi loa, paʻakikī loa a pono wau e kāhea i ka nui o ka makemake e pau. ʻAʻole ma ka ʻōlelo o ke kiʻi ʻana ma o ka studio a i ʻole nā ​​mea hoʻopukapuka, ʻo ka hapa nui e like ia me kēlā me kēia lā i hoʻonohonoho ʻia. E like, e nānā, heluhelu ʻoe i ka palapala, nānā ʻoe i nā papa moʻolelo, ʻo kēia ka lā a mākou e hana nei i kēia. Mai hana iaʻu i asshole a ʻōlelo e pono ʻoe e wehe i kou kapa āpau, no ka mea ʻo ia ka mea e ʻōlelo ai i ka palapala. 

He mau lā ko mākou e like me ke kaua, ua like ia me ka hakakā, ke hoʻāʻo wale nei e hana ka poʻe i ka mea a lākou i ʻae ai e hana. Manaʻo wau ua hiki iā lākou ke kau inoa a laila ke hiki mai ka manawa, hiki iā lākou ke puka i waho a i ʻole kekahi mea. No laila koi ʻia iaʻu e ʻano iki i kahi mea hoʻomāinoino i kekahi manawa. Akā manaʻo wau, pono ʻoe e hoʻohana i ka mea i loaʻa iā ʻoe, maopopo iā ʻoe. I ka hopena o ka lā, aia kou inoa ma ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. 

E ʻae wale wau i kahi ana wikiwiki a ʻōlelo i ka poʻe aloha āpau aʻu i aloha ai, hāʻawi lākou i nā mea āpau iaʻu, a e hana hou wau me kekahi o lākou i kekona. ʻO kekahi o ka poʻe hoʻokani. A like ka mea like me ka ʻenehana cast, e like me nā uila, gaffers, kukui, poʻe kāmera. Inā hana hou wau i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, kahi aʻu e manaʻolana nei hiki iaʻu ke hana, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole wau e makemake e hoʻohana i kahi mea kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻokoʻa ma mua o Jie-Li Bai, ʻo ia ka mea cinematographer iaʻu. Maikaʻi loa ke kamaʻilio ʻana ma laila.

No laila yeah, ke manaʻo nei wau, he mau ʻoma maikaʻi ʻole ia. Akā ʻo ka hapanui o ka poʻe ma ke kime he phenomenal. A manaʻo wau ʻo ka hapa nui o lākou e kakali wale nei nō e hana i kekahi mea e like me kēia, maopopo iā ʻoe. E like me, oh, kī pū mākou i ka bullshit, pēlā bullshit, nā mele mele lapuwale he nui loa no nā ballad, no laila ʻo ka hopena, hiki iā mākou ke hana i kahi mea ʻoiaʻiʻo wale nō, ma luna loa a komo i loko o kahi hohonu, hohonu, hohonu nā manaʻo a me nā mea lapuwale . ʻO ia ka mea aʻu i manaʻo maoli ai mai kekahi poʻe, e like me kekahi o lākou, me he mea lā ke kali nei lākou i kā lākou ʻoihana holoʻokoʻa e hana i kekahi mea e like me kēia. A hōʻike pū ʻia ia, a manaʻo wau hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi i nā lālā o ke kime āu e ʻike ai i loko. 

Kelly McNeely: A nani loa ka cinematography. Hoʻomaopopo wau i koʻu nānā ʻana, me he mea lā, ʻo ia ka weliweli weliweli keu ʻoi loa aʻu i ʻike ai i kahi lōʻihi. Akā koho wau i kēia ʻano o nā ʻāpana i kaʻu nīnau aʻe, akā ʻaʻole au i ʻike inā hiki iā ʻoe ke pane i kēia. Ehia mau koko i hoʻohana ʻia no ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni? No ka mea makemake wau e hoʻonoho i kahi ʻano moʻolelo. 

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole wau, ua hana wau i kahi manaʻo e haʻi wale aku iā Esther a me Victor - ka wahine i hana ʻia IF SFX Art Maker, ʻo ia ka studio makeup effects i hana i kā mākou hopena kūikawā - ua ʻōlelo wau e like me, ʻaʻole hiki iā mākou ke pau i ke koko, ʻaʻole mākou e pau i ke koko. E like me kaʻu e ʻōlelo aku ai iā ʻolua i kēia manawa, pono ʻoe e hoʻomaopopo i kēia, pono mākou e lawa i ke koko, a like, huhū loa wau inā i kekahi lā e piʻi mai ʻoe e haʻi iaʻu ʻaʻole lawa kā mākou. No laila i ka manawa i maopopo ai, ma laila wale nō ia. A ʻo ka ʻohana noʻeau i hana i ʻelua ʻano koko. Loaʻa iā mākou ke koko koa i hana i kahi liʻiliʻi hou aʻe, a laila loaʻa iā mākou kahi ʻano o ke koko i hāʻawi ʻia e ka ʻenehana ʻoihana i hoʻohana nui ʻia e like me nā lole i hoʻonohonoho ʻia a me nā mea like.

Hoʻokomo ʻia no ka ʻōpū, ua hana mākou i ka ʻenehana no ka hana ʻana i ka viscera a me nā ʻōpū mai loko mai o ka polyurethane, a laila loaʻa iā mākou nā mea hoʻonani e hana i nā ʻāpana hero mai loko mai o ka silicone. No laila he mea wale nō ia e pono ai iaʻu e hōʻoia ua loaʻa iā mākou. I ka wā i loaʻa ai kā mākou mau lā nui, ʻaʻole wau i makemake e kaupalena ʻia. Pono mākou i kēia mau hiʻohiʻona e hoʻopakele. Ma muli o koʻu hoʻāʻo ʻole ʻana e hoʻoleʻaleʻa i ka poʻe hoʻolohe Taiwanese, ke hoʻāʻo nei wau e hoʻohanohano i ka lehulehu o ka honua. Pono wau i kēia e lilo i papa honua. Pēlā nō kēlā ʻano kahi aʻu e hele mai nei. 

Pono wau e haʻi iā ʻoe e like me, nā hoa aloha aloha loa me Victor a me ʻEsetera. Me he mea lā ke hoʻomāinoino nei wau iā lākou. Akā, maopopo iā ʻoe, hele mai lākou i koʻu hale no ka ʻaina awakea i nā manawa āpau a me nā mea. ʻAno wale wau e hoʻāʻo nei e hoʻokani he kāne paʻakikī i kēia manawa. Akā i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, loaʻa iā lākou ke kiʻi a hana nui lākou i kahi hana. A aloha wau iā lāua ʻelua. 

Kelly McNeely: He hana kupaianaha kā lākou i hana ai, nani ke nānā aku. ʻO ka pōpoki ma ke ʻano he wahine ke ʻano o ke ʻano wahine āu e makemake ai e ʻike, no ka mea like ʻo ia, e hoʻowahāwahā i ka pono. ʻAʻole ʻo ia i ka viole holoholo e hoʻāʻo nei e hōʻalo i ka hakakā. Makemake ʻo ia, ʻaʻole, lawe i ka momona mai iaʻu, ʻaʻole mākou e hana ana i kēia. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i ka hana ʻana o kēlā ʻano?

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: Maopopo iaʻu ke kamaʻilio nei ʻoe e pili ana i ke kahua subway. Kuhi au e like paha me kahi ʻano kuanaʻike wahine i kekahi ʻano. Ua auditioned mākou e like me nā kaikamahine he nui no kēlā ʻāpana. A ua loaʻa wau iā lākou i kahi ʻano improvise, a me kahi mea a lākou e hāpai mau ai - a i ʻole kahi laina a lākou e hele mau ai i kā lākou improvisation - e like me, waiho iaʻu hoʻokahi, he ipo kāne kaʻu. A like wau, ʻaʻole, mai ʻōlelo pēlā, no ka mea, ʻo ka mea āu e ʻōlelo nei he waiwai wau na haʻi. A e like pū lākou, no ke aha e ala ʻole ai wau a haʻalele? No ka mea ʻo kou noho kēlā, ʻike ʻoe, e ʻumeʻa i kēia kanaka. ʻAʻole ʻoe e neʻe wale no ka mea he ʻano liʻiliʻi kēia kāne e like me kēlā, pono ʻoe e ʻoi aku ka ikaika. Pono ʻoe e ʻike ma o iā ia a ʻike i ke kaumaha ma laila. Maopopo iā 'oe? 

Kuhi au i ka manaʻo, no hea mai ia? He mau kaikuahine ʻelua wau a kuhi au he ʻano kākau wale wau i ka mea aʻu e lana ai ka manaʻo e ʻōlelo lākou, inā kū lākou i kēlā kūlana, ʻeā? No ka mea hana mau wau i kēlā. E nānā wau i ke wikiō a kahi mea pena kiʻi. A e like wau, maikaʻi, no laila, e Kelly, inā hoʻāʻo kekahi e ʻōlelo i kēia iā ʻoe, ke hoʻāʻo nei ʻo ia e hana i kēia, ʻae? Manaʻo ʻo ia e kiʻi ʻo ia iā ʻoe me kēlā. No laila pono ʻoe e hana i kēia ala. Kuhi au he ʻano puaʻa ia ma mua o ka wā e hiki mai ai i koʻu mau kaikuahine. Manaʻo wau he nani loa ia. Kuhi wau he pilina pili loa koʻu me koʻu mau kaikuahine. A no ke kumu, kuhi paha wau ua ulu wau i loko o ka hale ma ke ʻano he kaikuaʻana. ʻAʻole wau i holo i kekahi mau pilikia nui a i ʻole kekahi mea. ʻAʻole ia e like me ka hahau ʻana i nā dudes i nā manawa āpau ma muli o koʻu mau kaikuahine. Loaʻa iaʻu kahi pae o ka noʻonoʻo no kēlā a i ʻole kekahi mea, ke hoʻāʻo wau e kākau i kēlā hanana.

Kelly McNeely: Pehea ka hoʻāʻo o ka hana ʻole i kāu ʻōlelo makuahine, a hiki i ka hana ʻana ma Taiwan a hana i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni me kēia keaka i kēia poʻe limahana? 

ʻO Rob Jabbaz: Nui ka makapō, no ka mea e hāʻawi ana kekahi i nā laina, a hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomaopopo i ka ʻōlelo Pākē. Hiki iaʻu ke ʻōlelo. Akā ʻaʻole ia he mea e ʻoluʻolu ai iaʻu ke hoʻohālikelike ʻia i ka ʻōlelo Pelekania. A ʻokoʻa ʻokoʻa ia. 

No laila e hoʻomanaʻo i kēlā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni maka? ʻAe. No laila like, aloha au maka. A aloha nui wau i kēlā luna hoʻokele. A hauʻoli nui wau i ka ʻike ʻana i kāna kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hou. I kuʻu ʻike mua ʻana maka, Ua like wau, e kuʻu akua, ʻo kēia pae Mozart. E like, ʻo ia koʻu manaʻo, ʻeā? E like, ʻo kēia kekahi mea mālama, aia kēia iā ia i loko o kona koko. E like me Lil Wayne, ʻike ʻoe, kekahi mea maikaʻi maoli i ka mea a lākou e hana kūlohelohe ai. A laila ma hope loa, ua kamaʻilio wau me kaʻu hoaaloha no Paris, a like ʻo ia, hiki iaʻu ke ʻike i ke kumu āu e makemake nui ai, akā ʻaʻole maikaʻi ia inā ʻoe e ʻōlelo Palani. A like wau, ʻoiaʻiʻo? Oh ... ʻano ʻē kēlā. Akā ua kōkua ia iaʻu e hoʻomaopopo i ka mea e hana nei i ka wā aʻu e hana nei Kaumaha. 

E like me kāu kanaka i mua ou - e loaʻa i kahi mau kāne i mua ou - a ke hāʻawi nei lākou i nā laina. A ke hana nei lākou a ʻano ʻoluʻolu ʻoe, maikaʻi kēia, ke manaʻo nei wau i nā manaʻo kūpono. Ua kākau wau i kēia āpau, a maikaʻi kēlā manaʻo. A laila makemake, nānā ʻoe i kekahi mea ʻē aʻe a like lākou, hmmm nah [luliluli ke poʻo], a like ʻoe me ... maikaʻi no ke aha? A like lākou, ʻē, no ka mea ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia he ʻano like me kēia. A like ʻoe me, ʻaʻole loaʻa iki iaʻu. A like wau, ʻeā, hoʻonāukiuki kēia no ka mea aia kahi hoʻokaʻawale e hana nei, like ia me nā kānana i mua o koʻu mau maka, me he mea lā ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke ʻike i kekahi mau mea. 

No laila he luna hoʻoponopono wau i ʻōlelo wale ai, maikaʻi, e hele wale wau i kēia āpau, a e hoʻāʻo wale nō wau e kuhikuhi iā ia i ka mea hiki i koʻu hiki. Noʻu e ʻano hoʻāʻo makapō e kuhikuhi i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni no kahi mea hoʻolohe ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu? ʻIke ʻoe, e like me, no wai wau e hana nei i kēia, a ke hana nei wau i kēia naʻu iho, a i ʻole e hana nei wau ia no ke kanaka kuhiakau i hiki ke hoʻomaopopo pono i kēia? ʻO wau wale nō e hana ia mea maikaʻi noʻu iho. ʻO ka mea aʻu e hana ai, ʻo ia ke pili wale i ka hana. Lana wale koʻu manaʻo e hiki i nā poʻe e ʻōlelo Mandarin Pake ke nānā i kēia a ʻano kiaʻi wale nō me ko lākou puʻuwai a hoʻāʻo wale e ʻike i ka mea aʻu e hoʻāʻo nei e hele ma ʻō. 

Inā ʻano ʻē ka ʻōlelo, a laila ʻano like paha me ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻo Claudio Fragasso a i ʻole kekahi mea. Makemake Trolls 2, ʻike ʻoe i kaʻu manaʻo? E like me, kahi ʻano ʻē a pupule hoʻi ka Pelekania. E like me kēlā, akā me nā hopena maikaʻi a me nā mele maikaʻi a me ka cinematography maikaʻi. ʻO wau paha, inā ua ʻike wau i kahi kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e like me kēlā, e like me ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻo Claudio Fragasso i hana maoli ʻia, a laila manaʻo wau e aloha wau iā ia. No laila lana koʻu manaʻo ʻo ia ka manaʻo o ka poʻe Taiwanese e pili ana iā ia. 

A laila ma kekahi ʻaoʻao, maikaʻi ia iaʻu, no laila ke lana nei koʻu manaʻo ke ʻike ka poʻe ma ka honua holoʻokoʻa i ka ʻōlelo Mandarin Pake, ʻo ia wale nō kahi ʻano ʻē aʻe. E like me kahi ʻano exoticness hoʻoilina iā ia. A kū i waho e nānā ana i loko. Me nā subtitles, e like me, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu kēia ʻōlelo, akā ke heluhelu nei wau ia a he ʻano ʻokoʻa ke kinima ʻokoʻa ia. No laila ua noʻonoʻo wale wau ia mea mai ke kuanaʻike o kahi haole. E like me, pehea e pane ai kahi mea kamaʻilio ʻole Kina i kēia, ʻae i kēia, a ʻike paha i kēia? A ʻo ia nō ka mea aʻu e panakō ai, manaʻo wau Kaumaha e hana maikaʻi aku ai, ma waho o Taiwan, ʻoi aku ma mua o loko o Taiwan. A i kēia manawa, e kō ana kēia mau wānana āpau.

 

Hiki iā ʻoe ke heluhelu i kaʻu piha ka piha ʻana o Kaumaha maanei, a e nānā pono iā ia ma ke kaapuni hoʻolauleʻa.