Ke hana nei ʻo Mattie Do i nā nalu i ke ʻano weliweli i nā makahiki i hala iho nei ma hope o ka hoʻohui ʻana i nā mea weliweli me ka sci-fi a me ke keaka, a no ka hana ʻana i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni ma kona ʻāina home ʻo Laos ʻo ia ka wahine mua a me ka mea hoʻokele weliweli. Me kāna kiʻiʻoniʻoni hou ʻO ka hele lōʻihi hoʻokuʻu ʻia nei i kēia manawa VOD e nā kiʻi pale melemele, ua loaʻa iā mākou ka manawa e noho pū me ia e kūkākūkā i kāna mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni hou loa.

ʻO ka hele lōʻihi he hana keaka kaahele manawa e hana nei ma kahi kokoke i Laos. ʻIke ʻia ka ʻike ʻuhane i hiki iā ia ke hoʻi i ka wā kamaliʻi kahi e make ai kona makuahine i ka maʻi maʻi maʻi. Hoʻāʻo ʻo ia e pale i kona ʻeha a me kāna ʻōpio i ka trauma, akā ʻike ʻo ia i kāna mau hana i nā hopena i ka wā e hiki mai ana. 

He leo kaulana ʻo Director Do mai kāna kiʻiʻoniʻoni mua Chanthaly ʻo ia ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni Lao mua i paʻi ʻia i nā ʻaha kiʻiʻoniʻoni kaulana. ʻO kāna kiʻiʻoniʻoni aʻe, Kaikuahine aloha, i hoʻomaka mua ʻia ma ka Cannes Film Festival a ua loaʻa iā ia e ka horror streaming site Shudder, e wehe ana i nā mea pā ʻano ma ke ʻano ākea. Pono mākou e kamaʻilio me Do e pili ana i kāna kiʻiʻoniʻoni hou loa, a ma ka hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni poetic, ke kūlana o ka blockbuster hou, a me ka futurism Asia.

ʻO Bri Spieldenner: Hei Mattie. ʻO wau ʻo Bri mai iHorror. Aloha au i kāu kiʻiʻoniʻoni hou, a makemake wau e lohe i kekahi ʻike e pili ana iā ʻoe.

Mattie Do: Manaʻo mau wau he mea ʻakaʻaka ke ʻano o nā kānaka, he aha kāu e hoʻāʻo nei e hōʻike ma ke ʻano he mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni? He aha kāu makemake e hōʻike? ʻAe, aia ka mea aʻu i makemake ai e haʻi aku ma kēia ʻaoʻao. Inā ʻaʻole, he haku mele au a mea kākau moʻolelo paha, ʻike ʻoe?

BS: ʻAe. Akā ma kekahi ʻano, manaʻo wau he mele liʻiliʻi kāu hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni. Me he poem la.

Mattie Do: Hauʻoli wau i ka manaʻo o ka poʻe pēlā. No ka mea, ʻo ka poetic kahi huaʻōlelo a nā kānaka e hoʻohana ai no nā mea he nui. Akā, ʻo ka poema kaʻu manaʻo, i kēia mau lā, ʻaʻole i ʻike ʻia no ka manawa lōʻihi. ʻO ka manawa hea ʻoe i lohe ai i kekahi mea e pili ana i ka poema? Aia ma ka hoʻolauleʻa ʻana o Biden pololei? Me kahi wahine ʻōpio nani. A maʻalili hou ka poetry. A no laila maikaʻi ke kapa ʻia ʻo poetic no ka mea ʻo ia koʻu manaʻo i kēia manawa.

BS: Aia ma kahi tangent, akā e ʻōlelo maoli wau he nui nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni i nalowale i kēlā ʻano manaʻo iā lākou. Manaʻo wau he nui ka poʻe, ʻoi aku ka poʻe ʻAmelika, ʻaʻole heluhelu nui. A ʻaʻole lākou e heluhelu i ka poema. No laila, he mea hou loa ka ʻike ʻana i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni e pili ana i ka manaʻo a he nui ma hope o ka kikokikona.

Mattie Do: Manaʻo wau he paʻakikī kaʻu kiʻiʻoniʻoni no kēlā lehulehu lehulehu āu e kamaʻilio nei. Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole kēia he kiʻiʻoniʻoni no nā mea a pau. A ʻo koʻu manaʻo, he kiʻiʻoniʻoni paʻakikī ia e hoʻokaʻawale a hoʻāʻo mau nā mea a pau e hoʻokaʻawale iā ia, no ka mea, pēlā ke kūʻai ʻia ʻana o nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni a hōʻike ʻia i ka lehulehu, ʻeā? 

Nui ka poʻe ʻEulopa i ka hoʻomanawanui no kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni paʻakikī, akā manaʻo wau e like me ka nui o ka poʻe ʻAmelika ʻĀkau, e, weliweli, a manaʻo lākou e lilo ana ia. Scream, a e lilo ana paha ʻO ka pepehi kanakaʻo Texas Chainsaw, a i ʻole kekahi ʻano kiʻiʻoniʻoni jumpscare. A laila nānā lākou i kaʻu kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ʻaʻole ia e paʻa i kou lima, manaʻo nui ia mai ka lehulehu. A he mea nui kēia iaʻu, no ka mea, ke manaʻoʻiʻo nei au he akamai ka poʻe hoʻolohe, hana wau i nā ʻano kiʻiʻoniʻoni aʻu e hana ai no ka mea ua luhi wau i ka mālama ʻia ʻana e like me ke pēpē, a me ka like, sat the F**k i lalo e nā alakaʻi a e like me, ʻae, e hāʻawi wau iā ʻoe i ka wehewehe nui i kēia manawa. A ke nānā pono nei ke ʻano i loko o ka pahupaʻikiʻi, a ua like ia, e wehewehe wau i nā mea āpau āu i ʻike ai. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu pehea ia hana? 

"Hana wau i nā ʻano kiʻiʻoniʻoni aʻu e hana ai no ka mea ua luhi wau i ka mālama ʻia ʻana e like me ke pēpē"

A i ʻole e like me ka flashbacking, e like me ka ʻae, i kēia manawa e loaʻa iā mākou kēia manawa a me ka flashback flashback flashback, no ka mea, manaʻo lākou he aliʻi leʻaleʻa mākou, a pono mākou e paʻa i ko mākou mau lima ma ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni. Ua luhi wau i kēlā. A no laila ua hana wau i kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni a manaʻo wau ua ʻano like kaʻu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni a pau, kahi aʻu e hāʻawi aku ai i ka ʻike, a ke manaʻo nei au e hoʻopili ka poʻe i nā ʻāpana, no ka mea aia nā ʻāpana āpau. Like, aia nā mea a pau. Pono lākou e ʻimi i nā ʻāpana a pono lākou e hoʻohui i nā ʻāpana. A manaʻo wau he mea leʻaleʻa ka loaʻa ʻana o kēia paʻakikī.

Hiki ke ola e like me kēia kiʻiʻoniʻoni. E like me kahi e pono ai ʻoe e noʻonoʻo i ka shit, pololei? Hele ʻoe i ke keʻena i kekahi lā, a hāʻawi nā mea a pau iā ʻoe i kēlā nānā. Ke nānā nei lākou a pau iā Bri a me Bri me he mea lā, ʻo ka f**k aʻu i hana ai ma kēlā pāʻina i ka Pōʻalima? E like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai, pono ʻoe e noʻonoʻo. No ka mea, ʻaʻohe kanaka e hoʻihoʻi iā ʻoe.

BS: Aloha au i kēlā wehewehe ʻana. ʻAe loa wau iā ʻoe, ʻo ia kekahi o kaʻu mea punahele liʻiliʻi loa e pili ana i ka hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni hou, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni ʻAmelika ʻo ia ka mea kokoke loa i nā keiki. Mahalo wau i kēlā, e like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai, aia kekahi mau ʻano o ka sci fi, weliweli, keaka, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻopili pono iā ia i hoʻokahi mea. Akā ua pilikia paha ʻoe i ka loaʻa ʻana o ka lehulehu a kūʻai aku paha i kāu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni no ia kumu?

Mattie Do: ʻO koʻu manaʻo, ʻaʻole wau i manaʻo he mea kūʻai nui kaʻu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni no laila ʻaʻole wau i noʻonoʻo e like me kēia. He mau nīnau kēia no nā mea hana kiʻiʻoniʻoni e like me aʻu, paʻakikī ke pane, no ka mea, ʻaʻole wau e hana i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni no ka demographic. ʻIke wau aia kekahi poʻe ma waho no kaʻu kiʻiʻoniʻoni. A ʻike wau aia kekahi poʻe ma waho e makemake a makemake i kahi mea kūʻokoʻa a me kahi mea pilikino a me kahi mea pili, kahi mea hiki ʻole ke hoʻokomo i loko o kahi pahu. A ʻo ia koʻu poʻe hoʻolohe. ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke ʻōlelo ʻo ia kaʻu mākeke. No ka mea ʻaʻole lawa mākou e mālama i kahi pahu pahu nui Marvel hit. Akā, no ke aha ʻaʻole lawa ia? 

Ma ka ʻoihana kiʻiʻoniʻoni, hāʻawi kālā nā kānaka i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni i nā manawa a pau, e loaʻa iā ʻoe ka poʻe popcorn lehulehu a laila, ma ka ʻaoʻao, hana ʻoe i kēia ʻano kiʻiʻoniʻoni i pilikino loa a ka poʻe e ʻimi nei a makemake ʻia e nā poʻe. Ua luhi i ka uku maʻamau i makemake ʻia. Akā ʻaʻole maikaʻi, inā ʻaʻole kēia mea pilikua nui, no ka mea, ua paʻa kāu kiʻi pahū a ua lawa ke kālā no kāu hui e hiki ai ke hoʻolilo i nā kiʻiʻoniʻoni e like me kēia. ʻO koʻu manaʻoʻiʻo kēia. Akā, ke manaʻo nei au ua laha loa ka hōʻailona Dollar nui ma ka noʻonoʻo o kēlā me kēia kanaka, ua poina iā lākou hiki iā lākou ke hana ʻoihana e like me ia.

BS: ʻAe loa wau iā ʻoe. No laila e hele kāua i kaʻu nīnau mua. * ʻakaʻaka *

Mattie Do: ʻAʻole mākou i hiki i ka nīnau mua! 

BS: No laila ua ʻike au he nui nā kumuhana like i kāu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni e like me ka mālama ʻana i kahi hoahānau maʻi. Ma muli o kāu ʻike pilikino?

Mattie Do: ʻAe, ua mālama au i koʻu makuahine i ka wā i loaʻa ai ʻo ia i ka maʻi kanesa a ua maʻi ʻo ia. A aia wau ma kona ʻaoʻao 24/7. A ua paʻa au iā ia i kona wā i make ai. No laila, ʻo ka hopena i loaʻa i ke kanaka e paʻa i ke koena o ko lākou ola. A no laila, ke hōʻike nei kaʻu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni a pau i nā mea kīnā ʻole, a e pili ana i ka ʻeha kanaka a me ka hiki ʻole o ke kanaka a me nā hopena kanaka. No ka mea, ʻae, pilikino loa. A i ka wā i hōʻailona ʻia ai ʻoe e ka make e like me ia, i ka wā āu i ʻike ai, a i kou manawa i ʻike ai i ka pumehana o ke kanaka. He mea poina ole ia.

BS: E kala mai ua loaʻa iā ʻoe kēlā ʻike, akā hauʻoli wau i hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻimi iā ia i kāu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni a ke manaʻo nei au he hōʻailona ia.

Mattie Do: Manaʻo wau ʻo kekahi o nā kumuhana āu i ʻimi ʻole ai he mea maʻamau nō hoʻi i kaʻu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni a pau. ʻO kekahi o nā kumuhana weliweli loa aʻu e ʻimi mau ai i kaʻu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ʻaʻole ʻo ka weliweli ka ʻuhane. ʻAʻole ia ka mea kupua. ʻAʻole ia ka manaʻo stereotypical o ka weliweli. Akā ʻo ka mea weliweli ʻo nā kānaka e hoʻopuni ana iā ʻoe a ʻo ke kaiāulu. A ʻo ia ke kanaka a me ko lākou nele i ke kanaka no kekahi i kekahi a me ko lākou kuko a me ka maʻalahi o ka palaho o ke kanaka a me ke ʻano ʻino o ke kanaka. A ʻo ia kahi mea aʻu i manaʻo ai he laha i ka nui o kaʻu hana.

BS: ʻAe, maopopo.

Mattie Do: ʻAʻole au i ʻeha ʻia e nā ʻuhane ma mua, e Bri, akā ua ʻeha au e nā kānaka he nui.

"ʻAʻole au i ʻeha ʻia e nā ʻuhane ma mua, akā ua ʻeha wau e nā kānaka he nui."

BS: Lae kūpono loa. Pono wau e ʻae i kēlā. Ma kēlā kumuhana, he aha ke ʻano o ka weliweli ma Laos?

Mattie Do: ʻO ka mea kūʻē loa e pili ana iā Lao, he hoʻomanamana loa lākou. Manaʻo ka hapa nui o ka heluna kanaka i nā ʻuhane, he mea i ʻae ʻia. He mea maʻamau. No laila, ʻaʻohe mea e haʻi iā ʻoe he ʻano ʻē a pupule paha ʻoe, a i ʻole psycho inā manaʻo ʻoe ua ʻike ʻoe i nā ʻuhane, a i ʻole he hālāwai ʻuhane ʻoe. A i kekahi manawa ʻaʻole ia he mea weliweli. I kekahi manawa hiki ke hōʻoluʻolu i kou manaʻo i ke alo o kahi ʻuhane kupuna a i ʻole ka ʻuhane pale. 

Akā i ka manawa like, makaʻu pū lākou i nā ʻuhane a me nā ʻuhane, a me nā ʻōlelo hōʻino a me nā kilokilo ʻeleʻele a me nā kilokilo. He ʻaha kanaka hoʻoweliweli weliweli mākou. He nui ka poʻe e noʻonoʻo nei i ka hoʻoweliweli kanaka a lākou e manaʻo ai ʻO ka Witch or ʻO ka kanaka Wicker, a ʻO ke kuleana a ʻo ka poʻe keʻokeʻo weliweli, akā ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻo mākou he poʻe ʻAsia, a ʻo mākou ka poʻe ʻApelika a me ka poʻe ʻulaʻula i ʻoi aku ka lōʻihi o ka heluna kanaka me nā mea weliweli makaʻu, a me ka paganism, a me ka animism a me ka occult mau no nā kenekulia a me nā kenekulia ma mua o kekahi o kēia puritanical hou. ua mau ka kilokilo. 

A no laila, aia kahi makaʻu ikaika loa i ka mea i ʻike ʻole ʻia, a i ʻole nā ​​mana kahiko a i ʻole ka ʻuhane, akā aia kekahi ʻano olakino maikaʻi loa i kēia makaʻu kahi, no ka mea, ua ʻae ʻia ʻo ia he ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ia kekahi ʻāpana o ko mākou ola a me kēlā. hiki iā mākou ke ola me ia.

No laila inā loaʻa ka weliweli, he ʻoiaʻiʻo. ʻO kēlā me kēia lā. Akā ʻo ke ʻano o ka weliweli aʻu e manaʻo nei e lawe mai nei au ma ka pale ʻaʻole ia he kupua wale nō. ʻO ia ke ola i kēlā me kēia lā, pehea ʻoe e ola ai i ka poina ʻana o nā kānaka iā ʻoe a haʻalele paha iā ʻoe. Pehea ʻoe e ola ai ke hoʻopau ʻia ʻoe e ka mea waiwai a makemake ʻoe e lilo i kēia kanaka ikaika a waiwai nui a i ʻole influencer a mea nani paha. ʻO ia ka wā e pōʻino ai kākou nā kānaka, a ʻo kēia ka weliweli o Laos a me ka weliweli o nā wahi āpau no ia mea.

"ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻo mākou he poʻe ʻAsia, a ʻo mākou ka poʻe ʻApelika a me ka poʻe ʻeleʻele i lōʻihi loa ka heluna kanaka me nā mea weliweli o ka poʻe, a me ka paganism, a me ka animism a me ka hoʻokalakupua e mau ana no nā kenekulia a me nā kenekulia ma mua o ka noho ʻana o kēia mau kilokilo puritanical hou." 

BS: A ma ke kumuhana o nā mea weliweli a me nā poʻe e hoʻopuni ana i kāu kiʻiʻoniʻoni. Nui koʻu makemake i ka paʻakikī o ka nui o nā kiʻi, ʻoi loa ke alakaʻi. Ua noʻonoʻo wau i ke ʻano o kāu hoʻoikaika ʻana no nā kiʻi ʻO ka hele lōʻihi?

Mattie Do: ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole mākou i noʻonoʻo e pili ana i ka manaʻo o ka ʻelemakule ʻO ka hele lōʻihi. ʻO ia wale nō kahi ʻano i kūkulu ʻia mai ka mea aʻu i manaʻo ai e manaʻo nā kānaka a pau iaʻu iho, akā ʻaʻole wau he pepehi kanaka, ʻaʻole wau i pepehi i kekahi a i ʻole kekahi mea. Akā ʻo ka nui o nā manaʻo paʻakikī a ka ʻelemakule e hele ai e like me nā manaʻo aʻu i hele ai i ka wā i nalowale ai kaʻu ʻīlio a nalowale koʻu makuahine. ʻO kaʻu kāne kaʻu mea kākau kiʻi. A i ka nalowale ʻana o kaʻu ʻīlio, maopopo iaʻu ua hele pū ʻo ia i kekahi mau manaʻo paʻakikī, no ka mea, pono mākou e hoʻopau i kaʻu ʻīlio ma 17 mau makahiki. 

Manaʻo wau he kanaka loa ia, no ka launa pū ʻana me ka ʻelemakule a me ka minamina a me ka nalowale. ʻO wai lā ka manaʻo ʻole inā loaʻa iā lākou kahi pohō weliweli i ko lākou ola? ʻO wai ka mea makemake ʻole e hoʻi a hoʻāʻo e hoʻokō i kahi hoʻololi e hoʻomaikaʻi ai iā lākou iho e hōʻemi i ka ʻeha. A ʻo ia ke ʻano o ka ʻelemakule, manaʻo wau he poʻe kānaka ia. He hewa loa lākou a pau, nā mea a pau i loko ʻO ka hele lōʻihi. A ke manaʻo nei au he ʻuʻuku liʻiliʻi paha wau, akā he hapa ka hapa nui o nā kānaka. Manaʻo wau he hewa loa nā kānaka a pau i kā mākou koho hewa ʻana. 

Inā ʻoe i ʻike i kaʻu hana ʻē aʻe Kaikuahine aloha, e pili ana i ka hoʻi ʻana o nā koho maikaʻi ʻole a me nā koho maikaʻi ʻole e hui pū ana ma luna o kekahi a hiki i kēia manawa o ka hoʻi ʻole. ʻOiaʻiʻo, lawe wau i kēlā i ka mea nui loa i kaʻu mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni a pau, akā makemake wau e hoʻokau i nā poʻe i ka lihi o kaʻu hana. A makemake au e hōʻike iā lākou i kahi hiʻohiʻona inā i hui pū ʻia kēia mau hoʻoholo a koi ʻia ʻoe e hehi ma luna o kēlā laina i ke one i kaha hou ʻia i nā manawa he nui, he aha ka mea e hiki mai, a pehea ka pōʻino? A pehea ka nui o ka hewa? 

No laila, ʻaʻole wau e ʻōlelo he mea like me ka hoʻoikaika ʻana i ke ʻano, akā manaʻo wau e hoʻāʻo nei wau e hōʻiliʻili i koʻu mau manaʻo ponoʻī, a me kaʻu manaʻo he manaʻo kanaka iā ia. A ʻo ia ke kumu e maʻalahi ai ka makemake maoli iā ia, ʻoiai, ke lilo ʻo ia i mea pepehi kanaka pōʻeleʻele a weliweli loa i pepehi ʻia e like me 20, a i ʻole 30, nā kaikamahine ʻōpio, ua like ʻoukou, e kuʻu Akua, ʻaʻole, he monster ia i kēia manawa. . ʻAʻole mākou aloha iā ia? ʻAʻole ʻoe kēlā kanaka. A ʻōlelo ʻo ia, ʻaʻole wau he kanaka ʻino. Akā ʻo ka mea ʻoiaʻiʻo, ke wehe ʻia ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni, ua pepehi ʻo ia i ʻeiwa wahine. Like, ʻo ia ke kanaka a mākou e aloha nei, ʻo ia ke ʻano a mākou e aloha ai. A ke manaʻo nei au ʻo ia kahi mea aʻu e makemake ai e noʻonoʻo ka poʻe, no ka mea hiki iā mākou ke hoʻohui iā mākou iho iā ia. He kanaka maikai anei ia?

BS: He nīnau kaʻu e pili ana i ka hopena o ke kiʻiʻoniʻoni. No ka mea, i ko'u manao, he pouli loa. Akā i ka manawa like, ʻaʻole ia e hoʻopau pono ma kahi leka ʻeleʻele. Pehea ʻoe e ʻike ai i ka hopena o kāu kiʻiʻoniʻoni? Ke ʻike nei ʻoe he ʻeleʻele loa ia?

Mattie Do: Manaʻo wau he pōʻeleʻele loa. ʻAʻole manaʻolana iki. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻo ka hopena e like me, ridiculously dark. ʻO kekahi o nā huaʻōlelo mua aʻu i lohe ai i ka puka ʻana mai o ka hōʻike mua ʻana iā mākou ma Venice, mai kekahi o koʻu poʻe holo moku, ʻo ia ka ʻawaʻawa. A he oiaio. He hopena ʻawaʻawa, nani maoli, nani ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana me ka puka ʻana o ka lā, ke ala a mākou i kamaʻāina ai a mākou i ʻike ai, ʻo nā mea ʻelua a mākou i ʻike ai a aloha ai. A ʻo ka hui hou ʻana o lāua, me he mea lā, hauʻoli loa lāua i ka ʻike ʻana kekahi i kekahi, ʻike ʻoe ua hauʻoli loa lāua i ka hui ʻana, akā ua paʻa lāua. 

ʻAʻohe o lākou i neʻe i mua. ʻAʻohe mea o ka honua i ʻike i kahi o ko lākou mau kino. No laila ʻaʻole hiki i kekahi ke ʻeli iā lākou e hana i nā hana hoʻolewa kūpono e hoʻokuʻu iā lākou e neʻe e like me ka manaʻo o Lao. A no laila ua paʻa lākou i loko o kēia ʻano ma waena o ka lewa, i kēia limbo, i kēia purgatory, akā ma ka liʻiliʻi loa e pili pū ana, ma ka liʻiliʻi loa, aia lākou me ka mana o lākou iho a lākou e aloha nui ai. A hiki iā lākou ke like me nā hoa mau loa i kēia kūlana maikaʻi. 

Akā ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻaʻole ʻo ia i neʻe i mua. ʻO ia kāna pahuhopu nui a me kāna makemake nui i ka hoʻomaka ʻana e hiki ke neʻe i mua a hānau hou ʻia, no ka mea he Buddhist mākou ma Laos, a ʻo ia ka mea inā make ʻoe, hānau hou ʻoe a hiki i Nirvana. ʻAʻole naʻe pēlā. ʻAʻole hiki i ke keiki liʻiliʻi. A ʻōlelo pololei ʻo ia iā ia ma ke ʻano he ʻano kahiko nona iho, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu kahi āu e hele ai, a aloha ʻo ia iā lāua ʻelua. Aloha ʻo ia iā ia, akā i kēlā manawa, ʻano hāʻawi ʻole ʻo ia i ka af**k you know? A ma kāna ʻano ponoʻī, ua like ʻo ia, pono wau e neʻe i ka mea i koe. A he hopena kaumaha loa a ʻeleʻele hoʻi. ʻAʻole ia he manaʻolana, akā ma ka liʻiliʻi ua paʻa pū lākou i ka manawa mau loa.

BS: Aloha au i kēlā wehewehe ʻana mai iā ʻoe. ʻAe, pōʻeleʻele loa. No laila makemake wau i kēlā.

Mattie Do: He hoʻopunipuni loa ia no ka mea, ke ʻike mua ʻoe i kāna ʻakaʻaka, hauʻoli ʻo ia e ʻike iā ia a hauʻoli loa ʻo ia. Hāpai ʻo ia i kona lima. ʻAʻole mākou i kākau inoa i kēlā. Akā, ʻōlelo ʻo ia, "E! kaikamahine!” Ua hoʻōho ʻo ia "e, e ka wahine." A laila ʻohi ʻo ia i ka ʻalani hou nona. A nani wale ka lā. A holo ʻo ia iā ia a hele ʻo ia iā ia a hauʻoli nui ʻoe. Akā, ʻike koke ʻoe i ka mea i hana ʻia. A ua like ʻoe, e ka hoa, ʻaʻohe ʻino.

BS: He aha kāu i hoʻokumu ai i nā ʻano futurism ma ke kiʻi? Ma hea ʻoe i loaʻa ai kēia ʻano o ka wā e hiki mai ana? A i ʻole no ke aha ʻoe i koho ai e hoʻonohonoho iā ia i ka wā e hiki mai ana?

Mattie Do: ʻOi aku ka maʻalahi o ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana i ka wā e hiki mai ana ma mua o ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana i ka wā ma mua. No laila, inā wau e hoʻonoho i ka ʻelemakule i kēia manawa. A laila e hoʻi au i 50 mau makahiki a laila pono wau e hana i nā lole, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka waihona kālā a laila pono wau e hana me ke kiʻi ʻana i kahi ʻāpana wā, ma ke kumu. No ka mea ma Laos 50 mau makahiki i hala, he kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ia. ʻO kaʻu manaʻo, ʻoiai ma ʻAmelika 50 mau makahiki i hala aku nei he kiʻiʻoniʻoni manawa, ʻeā? E like me nā kaʻa ʻokoʻa. ʻOkoʻa nā mea a pau. No laila ua kōkua nui nā kaohi kālā. 

Akā ʻo ka hoʻonohonoho ʻia ʻana i ka wā e hiki mai ana he ʻōlelo nui e pili ana i ka liʻiliʻi o ka neʻe ʻana o ka honua, a me ke ʻano paʻa o ka honua, ʻoi aku hoʻi ma kahi ʻāina e like me aʻu. Noho au i kahi ʻāina ulu, kapa ʻia e ka poʻe he ʻāina honua ʻekolu. A aia kēia mau manaʻo a ka poʻe e pili ana i nā ʻāina ʻekolu o ka honua, ʻaʻohe o mākou mea e like me ka poʻe noi, a he poʻe niho ʻole, ʻilihune, ʻeleʻele mākou i ʻike ʻole i ka ʻenehana ma mua, akā ua hoʻokumu ʻia ma ka ʻoiaʻiʻo. E like me kēia manawa, hiki iā ʻoe ke hele mai i ʻaneʻi a ʻae, aia nō nā alanui lepo, ʻae, aia nō nā kauhale e like me ka hale o ka ʻelemakule. A ʻo ka mākeke ke nānā mau nei. Akā i ka manawa like, hiki iā ʻoe ke hele e kūʻai i nā mea kanu mai kahi wahine mākeke, a e nīnau lākou iā ʻoe i kāu QR code. A e noi lākou iā ʻoe e ʻimi me kāu kelepona. ʻIke ʻoe i kaʻu ʻōlelo? A i kēia manawa he mea maʻamau me Venmo i ʻAmelika, ʻaʻole anei?

Akā, aia kekahi manawa e like me nā poʻe mākaʻikaʻi o ke Komohana e hele mai i ʻaneʻi a ua loaʻa iā mākou nā holomua ma Asia, ʻoi loa aku ma mua o nā holomua o ke ao Komohana, ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke hoʻomaopopo. A ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke ʻae no ka mea aia lākou i loko o kahi mākeke hou, me kahi ala lepo, hoʻopuni ʻia e nā poʻe e ʻaʻahu ana i nā lole kuʻuna, ʻōlelo lākou i ka ʻōlelo ʻaʻole ka ʻōlelo Pelekania. A me he mea lā ua loaʻa iā lākou kēia poloka noʻonoʻo e pili ana ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole kēia he holomua, he poʻe ʻilihune ʻeleʻele nō lākou, ʻeā? 

A no laila, manaʻo wau he mea leʻaleʻa ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana i kahi mea i loko o kahi hiʻohiʻona futurism ʻĀsia, a e hōʻike pū i nā poʻe no ka nui o nā holomua a me nā holomua ʻenehana, hiki iā mākou ke loaʻa i nā makahiki 50-60, ke hele mau nei ke kūlana kanaka. ʻO ia kekahi o nā mea aʻu e hoʻowahāwahā loa ai i nā kiʻi ʻoniʻoni ʻepekema e like me, ʻae, loaʻa iā mākou nā kaʻa lele. Loaʻa iā mākou nā papa hoʻolaha holographic e like me kōmi 'Runner. ʻO ke kūlanakauhale a pau, i hea ka f**k i hele ai ka poʻe kuaʻāina? ʻO nā pilikia kanaka ka pilikia o ke kanaka, ʻoiai inā loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi kaʻa lele, ʻo wai ka mea e uku i nā bila o kēlā kaʻa lele?

BS: Manaʻo wau e like me ka manaʻo ma waho o nā kūlanakauhale, ua luku ʻia nā mea a pau e ke kaiapuni pilikino, akā ʻo ia kaʻu e ʻōlelo nei.

Mattie Do: No laila ua like hehena Max iwaho. Ma ka metropolis maikaʻi ʻoe. Akā, pono e hele mai ka meaʻai mai kekahi wahi. A ke hoʻohiki nei au iā ʻoe ʻaʻole ia ke kūlanakauhale.