ka ho film Kaua no ka Ka o ka poe keko e pili ana i ka ape e nalowale ana i kāna lāhui. ʻO Kaisara, ke alakaʻi kipi kipi i hoʻolauna mua ʻia i ka makahiki 2011 Ke Iho o ka Palani o ka Apes, ʻo ia wale nō ka ape nāna e hoʻoponopono i ia mau pilikia. Hānai ʻia e kānaka, ʻo Kaisara kahi kanaka i paʻa i ka ʻili o ka ʻie. ʻAʻole ʻo ia i ʻike he pili maoli ʻo ia i kēlā me kēia ao. Ke loli nei kēia.

Kaua no ka Ka o ka poe keko, ke kiʻi ʻekolu i ka Apes prequel series, pili like i ke kaua i loko o Kaisara e like me ke kaua kino kolohe ma waena o nā keko a me nā kānaka. I Kēkēmapa 2015, i ka manawa o kahi huakaʻi kipa ma Wanekoua, Kanada, ua loaʻa iaʻu ka manawa e kamaʻilio pū ai me ka mea hana keaka ʻo Andy Serkis e pili ana i ka pilina koʻikoʻi o Kaisara me ka lāhui kanaka, kahi e hele mālie nei e nā manaʻo hoʻopaʻi.

DG: Ma ke ʻano o ke kaua ma waena o nā keko a me nā kānaka, a me ka ikaika politika i waena o Kaisara a me kāna pūʻali koa ape, he aha ka mea i loli ma waena o ka hopena o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me ka hoʻomaka o kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

AS: I ka wehe ʻana o kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ua ulu ka hakakā ma waena o nā keko a me nā kānaka, a ʻoi aku ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa o ka poʻe hakakā kanaka, a ʻoi aku ka lokoino, ma mua o kā mākou ʻike mua. Ua alakaʻi ʻia e Woody Harrelson's Ke Kolona, ​​aia ka pūʻali koa kanaka me nā kāne a me nā wahine i hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻia i ka pūʻali koa i hāʻawi nui ʻia iā The Colonel, ka mea a lākou e manaʻo nei e alakaʻi ana iā lākou i kahi mikiona e hoʻopakele i ka lāhui kanaka. ʻAʻole like me nā kānaka i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ʻike kēia hui kanaka i nā ʻaka he holoholona ʻāhiu wale nō. Paʻa ka hakakā a ikaika, a ua ʻeha nā ʻaoʻao ʻelua i ka poʻe make nui.

DG: Pehea i loli ai ʻo Kaisara mai ka hopena o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

AS: ʻO ka kaua i ke poʻo inoa maopopo e pili ana i ke kaua ma waena o nā keko a me nā kānaka, akā pili nō hoʻi ia i ke kaua e ulu nei i loko o Kaisara. Ke kaua nei ʻo Kaisara iā ia iho i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. ʻO kā arc o Kaisara i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni e pili loa ana i kāna pono no ka hoʻopaʻi pilikino. ʻO kona pilina me ke kanaka, kona aloha i ke kanaka, ua hoʻāʻo loa ʻia i loko o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni.

DG: ʻIke ʻia, mai nā kiʻi, ua nalowale ʻo Kaisara, a i ʻole ke nalo ʻē nei, i kāna lāhui kanaka.

AS: Ke hoʻomaka nei me ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, he aloha aloha ko Kaisara me nā mea o ke kanaka, a ua pilikia kēia i loko o ka moʻo. I kēia manawa ke hōʻea nei mākou i ka wahi haʻihaʻi, kahi e hana ʻia ai nā hanana e kūʻē ai ʻo Kaisara i nā kānaka āpau. Ua aʻo ʻo ia i ka inaina maoli, a manaʻo ʻo ia i kēia, ma hope o ka ʻike ʻana i nā mea a nā kānaka i hana ai i kāna laha. He hana hoihoi a hoʻoweliweli hoʻi ia e nānā i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni.

DG: Ke hele nei i lalo i ke ala like a Koba i hana ai i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

AS: Lilo ʻo Koba i mea hoʻopunipuni, a kumakaia aku iā Kaisara i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni hope loa, a ua make ʻo Koba. ʻAʻole loa ʻo Kaisara e kumakaia i kāna ʻano ponoʻī, akā like nā manaʻo huhū. Ua ʻike ʻo Kaisara i ko Radoba hoʻokalakupua ʻana i ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, pehea i lilo ai ʻo Koba i piha i ka inaina, a ʻaʻole ʻo ia i manaʻo e hiki mai ana iā ia. I kēia manawa ua maopopo iā ia kēlā mau manaʻo. Ua wehewehe ʻia ʻo Kaisara e kona hiki ke galvanize a me kona hiki ke empathize. I kēia manawa pili ka hoʻopaʻi.

Ua hōkū ʻo Woody Harrelson i kā Twentieth Century Fox's “War for the Planet of the Apes.”

DG: Pehea i ulu ai ʻo Kaisara, kino a psychologically, mai ka hopena o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni?

AS: ʻO Kaisara, e like me ka hapanui o nā keko i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, kamaʻilio ʻaneʻane ma o ka ʻōlelo, a maikaʻi loa kāna ʻōlelo Pelekania i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ma mua o kā mākou ʻike ma mua. Akā ke nīnau nei ʻo ia iā ia iho i kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni, ʻaʻole wale i ka pili o kona pilina me ke kanaka akā i ka mana o kona hiki ke alakaʻi i ka ʻie ape. ʻAʻole maopopo iā ia inā ʻo ia ke alakaʻi ʻoi loa. ʻO kēia ka mea e hoʻowalewale iā Kaisara e hele i kāna huakaʻi, kahi ʻimi e mālama i nā ʻano ape, a me kahi ʻimi no ka hoʻopaʻi, a me kahi ʻimi e hoʻonā i kāna mau manaʻo i ke kanaka. Ua manaʻo mau wau iā Kaisara ma ke ʻano he kanaka i paʻa ʻia i ka ʻili o ka ape. He kanaka-zee ʻo ia. Ua hānai ʻia ʻo ia e nā kānaka, a no laila ʻo ia ka huahana hope loa o ka evolution. ʻO ia ka loulou nalowale. He mea ʻē ʻo ia. ʻAʻole pili ʻo ia i nā ʻano ʻelua.

DG: Pehea ʻoe i ulu ai ma ke ʻano he mea hana keaka ma ke ʻano o kēia mau kiʻi ʻekolu?

AS: Ma ke ʻano he mea hana keaka, hauʻoli loa wau i ka loaʻa ʻana o ka mahalo e pono ai, a hauʻoli wau i ka hana ʻana i kēlā. Ke nīnau ka poʻe he aha ka ʻokoʻa ma waena o ka hana maʻamau a me ka hana keaka, hopu wau, ʻaʻohe ʻokoʻa. Hoʻokomo kekahi mea hana keaka i nā kapa komo a me nā mea hoʻonaninani, a komo wau i kahi lole ʻoniʻoni me nā māka. ʻO nā koi ʻino, pīhoihoi o ke pāʻani ʻana iā Kaisara ka mea like iaʻu me nā mea hana keaka. ʻO ka mea hoʻonani aʻu e ʻaʻahu ai, ʻo ia ke ʻano uila.

DG: ʻOiai ʻo kēia ke kolu o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni i loko o ka Apes prequel series, he aha ka pilina ma waena o kēia kiʻi ʻoniʻoni a me ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni 1968?

AS: Ma muli o ke kiʻi ʻoniʻoni 1968, ʻike mākou i ka mea e hiki mai ana, a ʻike mākou e lawe pau loa nā ape i ka honua. Akā pehea e hana ai? ʻO ia ka mea hoihoi loa e pili ana i kēia mau kiʻi ʻoniʻoni prequel. Lokoino a me ke aloha ʻole nā ​​keko i ke kiʻi 1968; ʻaʻohe o lākou aloha a aloha paha a mākou i ʻike ai iā Kaisara. Pehea i hiki ai kēia? He aha nā mea i hoʻoholo ʻia e nā kānaka a hiki i kona luku ʻia ʻana?